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Re: Fernandinho

Postby AG7 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:52 pm

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, I haven't caught up on some unread threads here over the past few days ...

Here's the news piece from his official site: http://fernandinhooficial.com/?p=347

What's interesting is this graph comparison of him vs Yaya ...

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Re: Fernandinho

Postby bigblue » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:54 pm

AG7 wrote:Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, I haven't caught up on some unread threads here over the past few days ...

Here's the news piece from his official site: http://fernandinhooficial.com/?p=347

What's interesting is this graph comparison of him vs Yaya ...


Seems like a great foil for Yaya, especially as Yaya gets into his 30's
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby avoidconfusion » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:08 pm

40m Euros... this got to be a fucking joke?
so now as every enemy circles our city
sour and sore, we swear war
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby patrickblue » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:09 pm

bigblue wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:30 million for a 28 year old defensive midfielder, perhaps the position we least needed strengthening in.

I'm not sure about this one. He really better be world class to justify the price.


Of course you're second guessing it. If it was a whiskeynose signing you'd be all over it, saying how City missed out. We just added another great, entertaining player to our squad. Enjoy it you miserable fuck!

Also, since when should we care about the transfer fee?!? It's not like the Sheik is going to run out of $40 billion anytime soon. Let him handle the money, let the media and other fans bitch about it, and we can enjoy the results of it! FFS


Spot on. I've been meaning to post something similar on quite a few occasions recently, but TBH. couldn't quite be arsed
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:10 pm

bigblue wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:30 million for a 28 year old defensive midfielder, perhaps the position we least needed strengthening in.

I'm not sure about this one. He really better be world class to justify the price.


Of course you're second guessing it. If it was a whiskeynose signing you'd be all over it, saying how City missed out. We just added another great, entertaining player to our squad. Enjoy it you miserable fuck!

Also, since when should we care about the transfer fee?!? It's not like the Sheik is going to run out of $40 billion anytime soon. Let him handle the money, let the media and other fans bitch about it, and we can enjoy the results of it! FFS

Fuck off.
Can't you debate without throwing a childish insult?

I'm sure he's a talented player. I just think it's a lot of money for a 28 year old.
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:11 pm

bigblue wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:30 million for a 28 year old defensive midfielder, perhaps the position we least needed strengthening in.

I'm not sure about this one. He really better be world class to justify the price.


Of course you're second guessing it. If it was a whiskeynose signing you'd be all over it, saying how City missed out. We just added another great, entertaining player to our squad. Enjoy it you miserable fuck!

Also, since when should we care about the transfer fee?!? It's not like the Sheik is going to run out of $40 billion anytime soon. Let him handle the money, let the media and other fans bitch about it, and we can enjoy the results of it! FFS

Fuck off.
Can't you debate without throwing a childish insult?
Second guessing? Nowhere did I say he wouldn't be a good player. And you're second guessing too by saying it's a great signing.
I'm sure he's a talented player. I just think it's a lot of money for a 28 year old with no PL experience.
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby Dubaimancityfan » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:14 pm

Risby wrote:Milner, Nasri, Silva, Yaya, Navas, Fernandinho will all be regulars, they just won't start every game IMO.

It's Barry and Garcia who will have limited games.

Team could set up a number of ways.

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Navas. Yaya. Milner

Silva. Cavani. Aguero


Same back four and GK

Navas. Yaya. Fernandinho. Silva

Cavani. Aguero

Nasri can fit in where silva or Navas play. If Cavani doesn't come, Dzeko and/or Teves can replace him.


When did we buy Cavani. Have I missed something ?
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby Mase » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:14 pm

Nowt like our own fans putting pressure on a new signing by claiming if he's not world class he can fuck off (or something along those lines).

I've heard he's hard. Not in the same way as Doomie.

But someone told me that Garcia was nicknamed "the gladiator" before he got to City, so I'll probably wait and judge the Gelson wannabe off my own eyes.
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:15 pm

avoidconfusion wrote:40m Euros... this got to be a fucking joke?

Careful now, Bibblue will be calling you a Rag cunt.
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:17 pm

bigblue wrote:
Of course you're second guessing it. If it was a whiskeynose signing you'd be all over it, saying how City missed out. We just added another great, entertaining player to our squad. Enjoy it you miserable fuck!

Also, since when should we care about the transfer fee?!? It's not like the Sheik is going to run out of $40 billion anytime soon. Let him handle the money, let the media and other fans bitch about it, and we can enjoy the results of it! FFS


I agree with the last bit, not completely but mostly. I mean it's not like even one million pounds for a human being. What's the amount of money a club makes from winning the league and making it to the cl?
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby Sideshow Bob » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:17 pm

Mase wrote: Garcia was nicknamed "the gladiator" before he got to City


he was?? fucking lol.
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:18 pm

Sideshow Bob wrote:
Mase wrote: Garcia was nicknamed "the gladiator" before he got to City


he was?? fucking lol.

I think he means 'the radiator'.
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:20 pm

Mase wrote:Nowt like our own fans putting pressure on a new signing by claiming if he's not world class he can fuck off (or something along those lines).

I've heard he's hard. Not in the same way as Doomie.

But someone told me that Garcia was nicknamed "the gladiator" before he got to City, so I'll probably wait and judge the Gelson wannabe off my own eyes.


You only have to do some real research to have a more balanced opinion to see if a player will make it with us or not.
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby bigblue » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:25 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Fuck off.
Can't you debate without throwing a childish insult?


You're not really helping your own case there are you?

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I'm sure he's a talented player. I just think it's a lot of money for a 28 year old.


Why you feel the need to moan about it or even care is beyond me. No mention from you about excitement or looking forward to seeing the man play. Only a boring re-run of "City spending too much boo hoo".

Rich people also pay $15 for a bud light in some clubs here in DC. Do I care? No, let them spend their money. Even better when their spending means more entertainment for City fans and a greater chance that we will be challenging for titles.
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby Saul Goodman » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:31 pm

this is all very interesting. quick captures of Navas and Fernandinho from anywhere between 50m euros to 65m euros.
yet, last window when Mancini wanted to upgrade quickly the board lagged ass and didnt want to splash the cash.
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:32 pm

bigblue wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Fuck off.
Can't you debate without throwing a childish insult?


You're not really helping your own case there are you?

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I'm sure he's a talented player. I just think it's a lot of money for a 28 year old.


Why you feel the need to moan about it or even care is beyond me. No mention from you about excitement or looking forward to seeing the man play. Only a boring re-run of "City spending too much boo hoo".

Rich people also pay $15 for a bud light in some clubs here in DC. Do I care? No, let them spend their money. Even better when their spending means more entertainment for City fans and a greater chance that we will be challenging for titles.


So have you been massively excited over every signing? Were you buzzing over Garcia? I think it's a lot of money, we don't have limitless money and I feel there are more important positions to streghtnen. I don't doubt he's a very good player. I've never said he wasn't a good player.
I'm fed up of you not being able to debate without coming across as a spoilt brat and throwing out immature insults.
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:33 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:this is all very interesting. quick captures of Navas and Fernandinho from anywhere between 50m euros to 65m euros.
yet, last window when Mancini wanted to upgrade quickly the board lagged ass and didnt want to splash the cash.


We net spent 37 million dollars on transfer fees last summer. It wasn't lavish but it wasn't tight either. Mancini or someone then made up that we had spent close to nothing during the summer. But we didn't, I.E. we spent a bit.
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby kinkylola » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:34 pm

heard that the 40m being reported is transfer + wages ... which i think the media have done before with us.

Also ... jesus we are getting our business done up front this year ... pretty amazing.
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby Moonchesteri » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:39 pm

kinkylola wrote:heard that the 40m being reported is transfer + wages ... which i think they media have done before with us.


sorry mate but not this time. Shakhtar confirmed it's 40 million euros. http://shakhtar.com/en/news/27109
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Re: Fernandinho

Postby bigblue » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:40 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
bigblue wrote:
Of course you're second guessing it. If it was a whiskeynose signing you'd be all over it, saying how City missed out. We just added another great, entertaining player to our squad. Enjoy it you miserable fuck!

Also, since when should we care about the transfer fee?!? It's not like the Sheik is going to run out of $40 billion anytime soon. Let him handle the money, let the media and other fans bitch about it, and we can enjoy the results of it! FFS


I agree with the last bit, not completely but mostly. I mean it's not like even one million pounds for a human being. What's the amount of money a club makes from winning the league and making it to the cl?


Also to expand upon that:

Who on here is qualified enough to full understand the difference between spending £20 million and £30 million on a player for a club of our stature? Are you able to understand exactly how much such a player will increase our brand and bring in future revenue (through success on the field and marketing campaigns)? What is a £10 million difference when the larger picture is competing for a share of a global market worth well over £10 billion? Have you run a NPV or IRR on such investments at this level over the past 5 or 10 years to even have an ounce of understanding of what the price means in the larger picture?

No.

So let the price remain what it is - a point of controversy for the football tabloids and a yardstick for comparison that has no real meaning without volumes of context.
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