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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Slim » Fri May 17, 2013 10:10 am

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john68 wrote:
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john68 wrote:Ground expansion is old news....we all knew about this shit ages ago.

Why would they dig it out now? Suppose they have run out of crap to accuse Mancini of and so need to use this to distract fans from the real issues.

What arrogant bastards they are turning out to be.....Swales was a twat but at least he was a blue one.


Come on pal. Don't give in now!


GIVE IN? I'm ready to lead the fight mate...CHAAAAAAAAAAARGE....YOU WITH ME?


Your losing the plot.
Take a holistic view and a cup of tea.


Anyone who cites Swales as a virtuous comparison is beyond cups of tea.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Fri May 17, 2013 11:19 am

john68 wrote:Ground expansion is old news....we all knew about this shit ages ago.

Why would they dig it out now? Suppose they have run out of crap to accuse Mancini of and so need to use this to distract fans from the real issues.

What arrogant bastards they are turning out to be.....Swales was a twat but at least he was a blue one.


Who? The PR department, the Spaniards or the Sheikh?

If you'd really prefer Swales, I suggest you go and set up FC City and pretend football is all about the beautiful game and Corinthian spirit.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby john68 » Fri May 17, 2013 3:51 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
john68 wrote:Ground expansion is old news....we all knew about this shit ages ago.

Why would they dig it out now? Suppose they have run out of crap to accuse Mancini of and so need to use this to distract fans from the real issues.

What arrogant bastards they are turning out to be.....Swales was a twat but at least he was a blue one.


Who? The PR department, the Spaniards or the Sheikh?

If you'd really prefer Swales, I suggest you go and set up FC City and pretend football is all about the beautiful game and Corinthian spirit.


I give up....This is like having a discussion with illiterates. Can I suggest you take up "Dick and Dora book 1" and sit quietly in a room with that other numpty who can't read...Piccs?

Oh and BTW good luck with the new club you are setting up.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Hazy2 » Fri May 17, 2013 4:23 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
john68 wrote:Ground expansion is old news....we all knew about this shit ages ago.

Why would they dig it out now? Suppose they have run out of crap to accuse Mancini of and so need to use this to distract fans from the real issues.

What arrogant bastards they are turning out to be.....Swales was a twat but at least he was a blue one.


Who? The PR department, the Spaniards or the Sheikh?

If you'd really prefer Swales, I suggest you go and set up FC City and pretend football is all about the beautiful game and Corinthian spirit.



Hey burying the week we have had with ground expansion bollocks, rolling out Micah today instead of a normal Friday Press day. After last Friday/Saturday PISS TAKE John has a point. The Spaniards have arrived.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby john68 » Fri May 17, 2013 5:27 pm

Hazy,

I am not arrogant enough to believe that I am totally right. But to accept what is happening without question is sheer stupidity. I am happy to stand my idea up and have anyone prove me wrong and knock it over.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Fri May 17, 2013 5:32 pm

john68 wrote:
I give up....This is like having a discussion with illiterates. Can I suggest you take up "Dick and Dora book 1" and sit quietly in a room with that other numpty who can't read...Piccs?

Oh and BTW good luck with the new club you are setting up.


WTF are you talking about?
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby john68 » Fri May 17, 2013 6:41 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
john68 wrote:
I give up....This is like having a discussion with illiterates. Can I suggest you take up "Dick and Dora book 1" and sit quietly in a room with that other numpty who can't read...Piccs?

Oh and BTW good luck with the new club you are setting up.


WTF are you talking about?


Hahahahahaha...sorta proves my point. try actually reading what I am saying then reply without twisting the words to mean something you have just made up..It is very annoying to have defend yourself from something you haven't meant or said.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Fri May 17, 2013 9:41 pm

john68 wrote:
Hahahahahaha...sorta proves my point. try actually reading what I am saying then reply without twisting the words to mean something you have just made up..It is very annoying to have defend yourself from something you haven't meant or said.


Having read your later posts in other threads it's starting to make more sense, but my crystal ball wasn't working when I read your original post.

You also slagged someone off without making it clear who, hence my question of who you were having a go at - from other posts, I'd guess it's the Spaniards. What the issue is with them expanding the ground I'm not sure - we've all known it's coming, but the news this week seemed to be about liaising with local residents about it, so not sure what the problem really is.

As for reading your original words, I have, several times. Try it - they're just a paranoid rambling about something which isn't clear, other than you seem to think 'they' (see above) are worse than Swales.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby john68 » Sat May 18, 2013 4:58 am

Blue Since 76 wrote:
john68 wrote:
Hahahahahaha...sorta proves my point. try actually reading what I am saying then reply without twisting the words to mean something you have just made up..It is very annoying to have defend yourself from something you haven't meant or said.


Having read your later posts in other threads it's starting to make more sense, but my crystal ball wasn't working when I read your original post.

You also slagged someone off without making it clear who, hence my question of who you were having a go at - from other posts, I'd guess it's the Spaniards. What the issue is with them expanding the ground I'm not sure - we've all known it's coming, but the news this week seemed to be about liaising with local residents about it, so not sure what the problem really is.

As for reading your original words, I have, several times. Try it - they're just a paranoid rambling about something which isn't clear, other than you seem to think 'they' (see above) are worse than Swales.


It's a wind up...you win. It must be a wind up, because nobody can read so many of my posts and not understand basic English. It must be wind up, otherwise you would not accuse me of saying so many things I have not said.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Wooders » Sat May 18, 2013 6:19 am

Pleased to hear we're expanding - near imppssible to get a ticket at the mo
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sat May 18, 2013 8:24 am

john68 wrote:
It's a wind up...you win. It must be a wind up, because nobody can read so many of my posts and not understand basic English. It must be wind up, otherwise you would not accuse me of saying so many things I have not said.


Stop trying to make yourself look superior by accusing others of somehow being thick. Your original post is below - I can't put quotes as I'm on the app, but it's the full quote:

Ground expansion is old news....we all knew about this shit ages ago.
Why would they dig it out now? Suppose they have run out of crap to accuse Mancini of and so need to use this to distract fans from the real issues.
What arrogant bastards they are turning out to be.....Swales was a twat but at least he was a blue one.


So my original question was about the 'arrogant bastards they are turning out to be' - who is 'they'? I assume you mean the Spaniards or were you trying to be sarcastic, which rarely works in text?

'Swales was a twat but at least he was a blue one' - as oppose to who and what? Not many City fans would have any time for Swales, so comparing someone to him I'd say was an insult.

The ground expansion - yes, it's been going on for months, although I don't believe anyone had seen an artist's impression and they hadn't actually confirmed it was about to happen, something they need to do for the people who live nearby and could object.

And mainly, I come in a stadium thread and you're having a go at 'them'. Maybe if I'd read every other post in every other thread it'd have made sense, but that's not what this thread was about.

So try explaining it for those of us who apparently can't understand basic English.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Hazy2 » Sat May 18, 2013 10:30 am

john68 wrote:Hazy,

I am not arrogant enough to believe that I am totally right. But to accept what is happening without question is sheer stupidity. I am happy to stand my idea up and have anyone prove me wrong and knock it over.


Arrogance has fuck all to do with mate, we have somehow been taken over by either Rupert Fucking Murdock or Tony Fucking Blair has been consulted along with Campbell. If the fucking sheep would look up they might see through the smoke an mirrors... For the last time I am not a Mancini licker he has served his time "eez normal eez football he knew that". What has happened since last Friday with Vicky Kloss and the two fucking amigos is a piss take and I am pretty sure the A D owners must be thinking wtf is going on as I said Monday morning clear yer desk how hard was it.. The press blackout until today must be a worry and I am pretty sure Pelli is looking in thinking wow that is a messy way to do things. We may as well as get Jose this is right up his street.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Herb » Sat May 18, 2013 10:54 am

Hazy2 wrote:
john68 wrote:Hazy,

I am not arrogant enough to believe that I am totally right. But to accept what is happening without question is sheer stupidity. I am happy to stand my idea up and have anyone prove me wrong and knock it over.


Arrogance has fuck all to do with mate, we have somehow been taken over by either Rupert Fucking Murdock or Tony Fucking Blair has been consulted along with Campbell. If the fucking sheep would look up they might see through the smoke an mirrors... For the last time I am not a Mancini licker he has served his time "eez normal eez football he knew that". What has happened since last Friday with Vicky Kloss and the two fucking amigos is a piss take and I am pretty sure the A D owners must be thinking wtf is going on as I said Monday morning clear yer desk how hard was it.. The press blackout until today must be a worry and I am pretty sure Pelli is looking in thinking wow that is a messy way to do things. We may as well as get Jose this is right up his street.


Well that's one opinion and, as all opinions are valid, I'll put mine. From my perspective the latest news on the stadium expansion (the subject matter of the thread), what with its increased match-day income and reduced price season tickets, is great news for all fans.
To then go off on such a tangent that you see that as a ploy to deflect attention from our being taken over by rupert F murdock or tony F blair and to ramble on about our AD owners thinking WTF. . . . well that's a bit daft isn't it?
You have the choice to look upon the situation sensibly and in context with such occurrences in the football industry or you can throw logic aside, readily believe the worst of the negative press reports and lose yourself in a pantomime dame frenzy of a conspiracy theory.
For those choosing the latter path I can advise that our AD owners are in full control of the club and never think WTF, that rupert murdoch and tony blair are not involved and that wrapping your head in bacofoil will do nothing other than keep your bonce warm and make you look as mad as you are.

PS. I do appreciate that putting emotion ahead of common sense is a very human trait but we mostly stop doing that when our mothers slap us out of throwing tantrums at 2 yo. :-)

PPS. That doesn't read as well as I'd hoped - runs the risk of sounding more arrogant than humorous - so I must emphasise than I'm not having a pop at Hazy (I like a lot of what he writes) - more the case that I'm trying to encourage a bit of context in general.
If we had De Gea and the rags had Hart, we'd be top with a 9 point lead and they'd be in 12th place - that's the difference between a 'good' keeper and a 'top class' keeper - 12 places - think about it.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Hazy2 » Sat May 18, 2013 5:08 pm

Herb wrote:
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john68 wrote:Hazy,

I am not arrogant enough to believe that I am totally right. But to accept what is happening without question is sheer stupidity. I am happy to stand my idea up and have anyone prove me wrong and knock it over.


Arrogance has fuck all to do with mate, we have somehow been taken over by either Rupert Fucking Murdock or Tony Fucking Blair has been consulted along with Campbell. If the fucking sheep would look up they might see through the smoke an mirrors... For the last time I am not a Mancini licker he has served his time "eez normal eez football he knew that". What has happened since last Friday with Vicky Kloss and the two fucking amigos is a piss take and I am pretty sure the A D owners must be thinking wtf is going on as I said Monday morning clear yer desk how hard was it.. The press blackout until today must be a worry and I am pretty sure Pelli is looking in thinking wow that is a messy way to do things. We may as well as get Jose this is right up his street.


Well that's one opinion and, as all opinions are valid, I'll put mine. From my perspective the latest news on the stadium expansion (the subject matter of the thread), what with its increased match-day income and reduced price season tickets, is great news for all fans.
To then go off on such a tangent that you see that as a ploy to deflect attention from our being taken over by rupert F murdock or tony F blair and to ramble on about our AD owners thinking WTF. . . . well that's a bit daft isn't it?
You have the choice to look upon the situation sensibly and in context with such occurrences in the football industry or you can throw logic aside, readily believe the worst of the negative press reports and lose yourself in a pantomime dame frenzy of a conspiracy theory.
For those choosing the latter path I can advise that our AD owners are in full control of the club and never think WTF, that rupert murdoch and tony blair are not involved and that wrapping your head in bacofoil will do nothing other than keep your bonce warm and make you look as mad as you are.

PS. I do appreciate that putting emotion ahead of common sense is a very human trait but we mostly stop doing that when our mothers slap us out of throwing tantrums at 2 yo. :-)

PPS. That doesn't read as well as I'd hoped - runs the risk of sounding more arrogant than humorous - so I must emphasise than I'm not having a pop at Hazy (I like a lot of what he writes) - more the case that I'm trying to encourage a bit of context in general.



Herb , have a pop all you wish, football talk is for me somtimes emotion, It was last Saturday night, when every blue did think the world had stopped spinning, A Hazy rant defending Mancini, I would never have seen that coming myself. The spin this week has been to much to be anything but the work of smarmy operators. The MEN today has one agenda spin, sorry for those who do not like it, but the comments are pure crap, the expansion who gives a toss this week of all weeks, Fact is Pelligrini is my type of manager, the two other fuckers are defo to be watched from this point IMHO as the Journos here are not the Catalan nodding dogs for anything Barca.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Herb » Sat May 18, 2013 6:01 pm

You're definitely right in that respect - they are doing the 'putting the good stories out' thing - but that doesn't mean that the stories aren't good stories about good things that we should celebrate.
I think I know what you mean re the RM departure - it wasn't a clean killing and I hate to see killing of any kind but that's what happens and football mangers know that they live beneath the sword of damacles - it's the knowledge that the reaper might swing the scythe that makes their balls tingle enough to do the job they do.
If we had De Gea and the rags had Hart, we'd be top with a 9 point lead and they'd be in 12th place - that's the difference between a 'good' keeper and a 'top class' keeper - 12 places - think about it.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby john68 » Sat May 18, 2013 6:09 pm

Hazy,
Despite what some seem to ASSUME, I'm NOT attacking Pixie and Dixie. Nor being emotional, nor paranoid about this mate. Nor am I defending a well paid off Mancini. That is a wholly other issue. But I am certain in my mind that what we have been told is NOT the truth.
I am also certain that most of the subsequent reports that have appeared regarding Mancini, unnamed players' disloyal and damaging actions towards the club and unsubstantiated reports of conditions within the club have once again made our club into a laughing stock in the World's media.
The culling of Mancini, his coaching staff and the coaches at the Academy have served one purpose. They have cemented Trixie's position and removed anyone who may QUESTION. It has removed all personnel at the club who may have had a valid but opposite view of the way forward. Trixie is now in total control of ALL matters football at the club.

The media have had and are having a field day at our expense once again. But it just happens to serve the position of Trixie well. Having removed any possible opposition and quashed any chance of debate within the club, these damaging reports have set the media and the fans talking about what has been reported. Mancini, the players, the chaos, and the ground expansion.

More importantly, they have served to deflect and diminish any questioning or examination of the REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES AND SERVED TO QUELL ANY CRITIQUE OR QUESTIONING OF TRIXIE'S ROLE IN THE FUTURE OF OUR CLUB.

What happens now will define our club for the foreseeable future. It is not the removal of a manager it is the foundation of what sort of club you, I and our kids and possibly our grandkids will be watching in the coming years. And some of you think it's paranoia to want to examine, or question it. If you are happy to accept what you are given without question, then fine, that is your right. Personally I think we should be alert. The evidence of whatwe could get issat over theroad at the swamp and how their fans are treated. Yours if you want it.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sat May 18, 2013 7:49 pm

john68 wrote:Hazy,
Despite what some seem to ASSUME, I'm NOT attacking Pixie and Dixie. Nor being emotional, nor paranoid about this mate. Nor am I defending a well paid off Mancini. That is a wholly other issue. But I am certain in my mind that what we have been told is NOT the truth.
I am also certain that most of the subsequent reports that have appeared regarding Mancini, unnamed players' disloyal and damaging actions towards the club and unsubstantiated reports of conditions within the club have once again made our club into a laughing stock in the World's media.
The culling of Mancini, his coaching staff and the coaches at the Academy have served one purpose. They have cemented Trixie's position and removed anyone who may QUESTION. It has removed all personnel at the club who may have had a valid but opposite view of the way forward. Trixie is now in total control of ALL matters football at the club.

The media have had and are having a field day at our expense once again. But it just happens to serve the position of Trixie well. Having removed any possible opposition and quashed any chance of debate within the club, these damaging reports have set the media and the fans talking about what has been reported. Mancini, the players, the chaos, and the ground expansion.

More importantly, they have served to deflect and diminish any questioning or examination of the REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES AND SERVED TO QUELL ANY CRITIQUE OR QUESTIONING OF TRIXIE'S ROLE IN THE FUTURE OF OUR CLUB.

What happens now will define our club for the foreseeable future. It is not the removal of a manager it is the foundation of what sort of club you, I and our kids and possibly our grandkids will be watching in the coming years. And some of you think it's paranoia to want to examine, or question it. If you are happy to accept what you are given without question, then fine, that is your right. Personally I think we should be alert. The evidence of whatwe could get issat over theroad at the swamp and how their fans are treated. Yours if you want it.


John,
What is the Utopian alternative that you think we need to follow? I don't recall City fans ever having a say in anything the club does. Yes we may have been asked questions and now we get lots of online surveys, but do we really get a say? You'd have to say the fans were ignored over Mancini considering how his name was sung, yet he wouldn't be the first sacking the fans didn't want, or the first appointment we didn't want either.

The British model for clubs is one where fans have a very limited say. The answer has always been to stay away if you don't like it, as that's the only way an owner will care. The difference for almost all premier league clubs these days is that gate receipts are only a small part of the income and, for the top clubs at least, there's a queue of fans waiting to take the places of those who stop going.

Football has changed, for better or worse, and we're just catching up. I'd say in the owners, we're in good hands, much better and safer hands than most other premier league chairmen and than a lot of other owners who may have been born and bred blues but didn't always have the money to compete or keep us afloat. The long term ambitions, with the academy, the stadium expansion and the other things they'll have in the pipeline will make us sustainable for the foreseeable.

The owners have also chosen to go with the Spaniards' model - so either they're in on it or they've been taken in as well.

The choice is to accept it or go and support a non-league club, where the fans count. Having just renewed my ticket, I know where my vote goes.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Sat May 18, 2013 10:38 pm

john68 wrote:Ground expansion is old news....we all knew about this shit ages ago.

Why would they dig it out now? Suppose they have run out of crap to accuse Mancini of and so need to use this to distract fans from the real issues.

What arrogant bastards they are turning out to be.....Swales was a twat but at least he was a blue one.


You seriously worry me at the moment John.
You know that i respect you and your opinion probably more than any other person on this site. I can see you really have a bee in your bonnet about stuff, but i genuinely don't get it.
I need a pow wow with you at your persuasive best, to tell me why I shouldn't be pleased Bob has gone, and more importantly why i should be worried for the future of Manchester City.
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby lets all have a disco » Sat May 18, 2013 10:41 pm

Piccs if your in tomorrow shall I see what fizz they have behind the bar?
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Re: Expansion to 60,000 on its way?

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Sat May 18, 2013 10:43 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:Piccs if your in tomorrow shall I see what fizz they have behind the bar?
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We can force it down John's neck.
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