The WORST article EVER written.

[Lev Bronstein]

Or you could have the headline:-
"Club gives in to over-paid Prima Donnas efforts to undermine Mancini"



It's all a matter of spin.

[Ted Hughes]

Other than the hysterical tone, I don't really see what is wrong with the article in content.

As Goataldo says, some nuggets of truth in there I am positive.

Also, as regards a "blanket ban" on comments, I would be certain they'd been told absolutely no negative or "happy you're gone" type comments. But no-one has even said that they wish him well, and I am positive that if they wanted to say that there would be no issue from the club's side. The fact that there hasn't been a peep of wellwishing says it all IMO

This is obviously true, & I don't think it's fair to blame the club for this.

Ladyman has been shit stirring at City for a long time, well before Mancini came, & had some minor contact there who dishes the dirt. He has probably gained one or two players on his 'grass' list now as well.

Plenty of people have known about these stories for some time & have referred to shit happening even when it appeared Mancini was staying. They have got it from the horse's mouth, through knowing players & staff personally, not the club tipping people off.

It's not nice, or very fair, that this has come out when Mancini can't give his side of the story, but it's not nice for everyone to blame it on the club orchestrating it either. People have been talking for a long time & the journo's have been jotting it all down, waiting for the moment to release it.

The moment has arrived.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

He was right to have a go at hart after the derby, some of the stuff described in the article seem fine to me, players need an ear bashing from time to time.just look at bacon face and his hair dryer, he is lauded for that treatment!

And the infamous double training session. It was well known even at the time that the other one was tactics walkthrough. I never saw anything wrong with that. Players need bollocking every now and then. That's integral part of football.

[Ted Hughes]

He was right to have a go at hart after the derby, some of the stuff described in the article seem fine to me, players need an ear bashing from time to time.just look at bacon face and his hair dryer, he is lauded for that treatment!

And the infamous double training session. It was well known even at the time that the other one was tactics walkthrough. I never saw anything wrong with that. Players need bollocking every now and then. That's integral part of football.

They'd only be buying more shit, playing golf, or setting fire to their bathrooms because they've got fuck all to do if they weren't training anyway.

[Crossie]

Good cop bad cop.

Whoever comes in now will have it easy because the comparison between the new guy and Bob will probably be like chalk and cheese. Bob did the hard work, the next guy will reap even more rewards.

You could clearly see in some of this seasons games, like Southampton away and the cup final that something was wrong. Yet we still finished second and got to a final.

Just wait until the air is cleared, fresh ideas and a couple of new players. Next season will be better.

[Hazy2]

Well you give A.Campbell a job this what you get. IMHO we may have let a manager go coz Joe Hart is a soft spoilt cunt, who did not like the truth, add a massive spin offensive on a level never seen before at City. New manager will give the kids a go, yep thats happening. More spin Today FFS.

[Im_Spartacus]

Well you give A.Campbell a job this what you get. IMHO we may have let a manager go coz Joe Hart is a soft spoilt cunt, who did not like the truth, add a massive spin offensive on a level never seen before at City. New manager will give the kids a go, yep thats happening. More spin Today FFS.

It seems spin is needed if half the retards on here can't see that Mancini's position was untenable through his own shortcomings

Blame the players all you want, but in my experience, if my manager ever treated me like a cunt, firstly he will fail at his job, and at some point down the line I'd make fucking sure he lost it if he carried on pissing me off.

Rightly or wrongly, the likes of Hart and Kompany are virtually in sellable at city, so Mancini couldn't just ship those out who he didn't get on with - and that's where his problem lies, he hasn't got a fucking clue how to deal with people other than getting rid.

Whilst the saying goes that no one player is bigger than the club, the same is also true for the manager.

[Mase]

Blame the players all you want, but in my experience, if my manager ever treated me like a cunt, firstly he will fail at his job, and at some point down the line I'd make fucking sure he lost it if he carried on pissing me off.

If you were being paid £200k a week would you be arsed about being treated like a cunt? Honestly?!

[spiny]

Poisonous vitriol designed to appeal to anti City and sell copy. Ladyman, Herbert, Ogden and others have consistently peddled their negativity from London, often just regurgitating the same gossip, rumour and innuendo without substantiating stories with direct quotes. All clubs have troubles.

Whatever his faults, Mancini won trophies and made enemies by gategrashing the Sky Four.

[City64]

Err ......

People within the game of football only say NICE THINGS about taggert because they HAVE TO or they dont make a living !

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Well you give A.Campbell a job this what you get. IMHO we may have let a manager go coz Joe Hart is a soft spoilt cunt, who did not like the truth, add a massive spin offensive on a level never seen before at City. New manager will give the kids a go, yep thats happening. More spin Today FFS.

It seems spin is needed if half the retards on here can't see that Mancini's position was untenable through his own shortcomings

Blame the players all you want, but in my experience, if my manager ever treated me like a cunt, firstly he will fail at his job, and at some point down the line I'd make fucking sure he lost it if he carried on pissing me off.

Rightly or wrongly, the likes of Hart and Kompany are virtually in sellable at city, so Mancini couldn't just ship those out who he didn't get on with - and that's where his problem lies, he hasn't got a fucking clue how to deal with people other than getting rid.

Whilst the saying goes that no one player is bigger than the club, the same is also true for the manager.

Unprofessional. I never think that I put that bit of extra effort for my boss, I do it for the customer. The people who actually pay my wages. Same way these spoiled bastards should remember they are performing for supporters. But modern Football players are so far removed from ordinary people that majority of them would have no idea. They start crying because someone saidvfew harsh words to them.

[Beefymcfc]

Any word from Vinnie? I'm not sure his Mrs has even commented on recent events.

[Risby]

If you were being paid £200k a week would you be arsed about being treated like a cunt? Honestly?!

To them, their wages are normal. Most of them don't have any concept of money as they are used to buying what they want, when they want.

Because this is the norm for all of them, like us in our jobs, doesn't matter how much you earn, eventually, you are only going to take so much before you bite back.

[Tokyo Blue]

I never think that I put that bit of extra effort for my boss, I do it for the customer. The people who actually pay my wages. Same way these spoiled bastards should remember they are performing for supporters. But modern Football players are so far removed from ordinary people that majority of them would have no idea. They start crying because someone said a few harsh words to them.

Absolutely spot on. You're paid to do a job, you fucking do it. Your own personal pride should make you do your best at whatever is in front of you.

[Im_Spartacus]

If you were being paid £200k a week would you be arsed about being treated like a cunt? Honestly?!

That's such a fucking lazy answer, I dont know where to start.

How much money someone earns does not change the basic management science of people management

I've gone from earning £2 an hour, to earning money that I could only dream of a few years ago. But in every job i've ever done, regardless how much money I earned for that job, the quality of my output has always been down to three issues

1: Personal pride
2: The money
3: How much I wanted to work for my manager

The point that i'm trying to illustrate is that regardless how much you earn, that is only one part of the eqaution. The remaining parts of the equation are based on your own personal pride in your work, and how much you want to work for your boss. (Eg, their motivational ability)

In city's case this season, every player would be happy with number 2 - so you are guaranteed a third of an effort, and there will be a differing level of personal pride, so lets say the players efforts are 50% of their maximum without any influence. The remaining motivation to draw out that extra 50% comes from the inspiration and motivation of those around them, and in particular their manager.

If the manager doesnt inspire you, you will rarely get anything more than a half arsed performance out of most players,

So you need to take the idea of a millionaire footballer, and bring it back the the basic point that they are human beings, and have the identical emotional needs for motivation, encouragement and developmemt that you and I do.

[Im_Spartacus]

Unprofessional. I never think that I put that bit of extra effort for my boss, I do it for the customer. The people who actually pay my wages. Same way these spoiled bastards should remember they are performing for supporters. But modern Football players are so far removed from ordinary people that majority of them would have no idea. They start crying because someone saidvfew harsh words to them.

Does the customer motivate you?

It should be a factor in what you do, but the customer doesnt inspire you to achieve at work, the motivation of your manager should though. And if it doesn't, you've got a poor manager

[Tokyo Blue]

Unprofessional. I never think that I put that bit of extra effort for my boss, I do it for the customer. The people who actually pay my wages. Same way these spoiled bastards should remember they are performing for supporters. But modern Football players are so far removed from ordinary people that majority of them would have no idea. They start crying because someone saidvfew harsh words to them.

Does the customer motivate you?

It should be a factor in what you do, but the customer doesnt inspire you to achieve at work

Depends on the nature of the customer, the closeness of your contact and the relationship you develop.

[Hazy2]

Well you give A.Campbell a job this what you get. IMHO we may have let a manager go coz Joe Hart is a soft spoilt cunt, who did not like the truth, add a massive spin offensive on a level never seen before at City. New manager will give the kids a go, yep thats happening. More spin Today FFS.

It seems spin is needed if half the retards on here can't see that Mancini's position was untenable through his own shortcomings

Blame the players all you want, but in my experience, if my manager ever treated me like a cunt, firstly he will fail at his job, and at some point down the line I'd make fucking sure he lost it if he carried on pissing me off.

Rightly or wrongly, the likes of Hart and Kompany are virtually in sellable at city, so Mancini couldn't just ship those out who he didn't get on with - and that's where his problem lies, he hasn't got a fucking clue how to deal with people other than getting rid.

Whilst the saying goes that no one player is bigger than the club, the same is also true for the manager.

If you think spin has left a nice taste you were not at Wembley last week, fuck you and fuck shithouse players who pissed all over our day last week. What chance did he have if this week is anything to go by, I was there 1-6 I was there 1-2 at the scum and for me actions on the pitch mean more to me than some snidey cunt turning wheels behind a mans back, I am angry with the club anything Mancini pissed me off with this season seems now to be a re-think as he was a dead man walking, so who is to blame....

[carl_feedthegoat]

Not ONE player has publicly wished Mancini well.........whys that then?

1. Has any player been publicly asked his thoughts on the sacking ?

2. Why does a player have to publicly reveal his thoughts on Mancini good or bad , in the immediate period after his sacking?

3. Perhaps any player for or against Mancini has been told by the club not to say anything , good or bad , publicly.

4. Why should a player risk his future at the club by publicly backing the sacked manager ? , look what happened to Bellamy.

Carl , as far as the players are concerned, i'm not interested in hearing who is for or against him. some will be for him, some against him. It's usually those who don't want to tow the line and Ladyarse chooses three good examples in Bellamy, Tevez and Ade here.

It's a cheap shot from a sad arsed reporter, who chooses now to make such a report . He had ample time before the Cup Final to put this crap out.

'double training sessions' a problem ? Come on Dougie will confirm that was not the case, perhaps needed at the time to get fitness levels higher.

no it's not the worst ever article written though. I hope Ladyman nips into MaryDs on sunday to get some more gossip !

What amazes me is that fans will jump on anything that doesnt suit their agenda and laugh it off as untrue because the source of the article is written in a newspaper or by a journo that is deemed full of shite or biased!
The same fuckign fans will also quote articles that do suit their agenda no matter where it came from.......you couldnt make it up.!!!
There is nearly always some truth in an article,wether or not it came from this cunt Ladyman OR from some other source.Its a case of focusing and discussing the possible truths rather than the shite thats added onto the piece.

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[Hazy2]

Not ONE player has publicly wished Mancini well.........whys that then?

1. Has any player been publicly asked his thoughts on the sacking ?

2. Why does a player have to publicly reveal his thoughts on Mancini good or bad , in the immediate period after his sacking?

3. Perhaps any player for or against Mancini has been told by the club not to say anything , good or bad , publicly.

4. Why should a player risk his future at the club by publicly backing the sacked manager ? , look what happened to Bellamy.

Carl , as far as the players are concerned, i'm not interested in hearing who is for or against him. some will be for him, some against him. It's usually those who don't want to tow the line and Ladyarse chooses three good examples in Bellamy, Tevez and Ade here.

It's a cheap shot from a sad arsed reporter, who chooses now to make such a report . He had ample time before the Cup Final to put this crap out.

'double training sessions' a problem ? Come on Dougie will confirm that was not the case, perhaps needed at the time to get fitness levels higher.

no it's not the worst ever article written though. I hope Ladyman nips into MaryDs on sunday to get some more gossip !

What amazes me is that fans will jump on anything that doesnt suit their agenda and laugh it off as untrue because the source of the article is written in a newspaper or by a journo that is deemed full of shite or biased!
The same fuckign fans will also quote articles that do suit their agenda no matter where it came from.......you couldnt make it up.!!!
There is nearly always some truth in an article,wether or not it came from this cunt Ladyman OR from some other source.Its a case of focusing and discussing the possible truths rather than the shite thats added onto the piece.

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You have a point Carl, but sometimes the likes of Brian Kidd say more than we realise at the time. I trust him more than the silence from the likes of HART

I liked this ARTICLE... Churlish I know....
By the end of the Demolition Derby, Manchester City fans were convulsed with joy, revelling in the sight of the majestic David Silva putting the champions to the sword, serenading Sir Alex Ferguson with “getting sacked in the morning” and designing their “Six and the City” T-shirts. Incredible