Balotelli versus Benteke

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I'm sure he'll score some goals in fucking slower than slow paced Serie A standing there between defenders and getting every single cross and throughball aimed at him.

I'm sorry but this attitude is just the epitome of English football arrogance. The Serie A might be worse than the PL, but it is not slower than slow. The trend here is that if a player fails in England, the only reason they are making it overseas is because of the shite league they are now playing in. It's horrible reasoning. Maybe Mario is succeeding because of a new role in the team, less media negativity, more focus on tactics in Italy, better understanding with his teammates, or 100's of other reasons.

Plus, who can say the PL is even that good this year? A average to below average scum team running away with the title and all teams already out of the CL. Maybe English teams should slow down and they might stop tiring themselves out running around like headless chickens all game.

This is like having your girlfriend leave you for another guy and complain "Well, she only likes him because he gives in easier and buys her everything." Maybe it's because he is not a fat, lazy asshole, has a better fitting personality, and actually fucks her right.

[Themontyburns]

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I can see what you're saying.

It's bollocks though. It's because it's slower and he's getting the yard he needs on defenders.

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It's bollocks though. It's because it's slower and he's getting the yard he needs on defenders.

Thanks for the brilliant analysis. Mario was never one of the fastest players over here. If all you need is a little pace to score goals in Italy, why doesn't an Italian team sign Walcott and Ramires to dominate the league because of their loads of pace against those slow Italians?

Sour grapes mixed with delusion.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

In two of the clubs biggest games in recent years, the Fa Cup Semi final and final, he played blinders and was a huge part of our success.
The 6-1 at Old Trafford too.
Maybe he wasn't right for us but he certainly has wonderful potential.

[Alioune DVToure]

This is like having your girlfriend leave you for another guy and complain "Well, she only likes him because he gives in easier and buys her everything." Maybe it's because he is not a fat, lazy asshole, has a better fitting personality, and actually fucks her right.

It's big of you to admit that, and must've required a great deal of courage. Respect.

[MilnersJaw]

it makes me laugh how people put down other top leagues and bang on about the premier league being the best in the world. why, because the english media claims it? do you honestly watch the other leagues on a regularly basis to prove this? I'm sure some of you watch real or barca every now and then but, come on, its ridiculous to actually spout this off all the time.

[Alioune DVToure]

it makes me laugh how people put down other top leagues and bang on about the premier league being the best in the world. why, because the english media claims it? do you honestly watch the other leagues on a regularly basis to prove this? I'm sure some of you watch real or barca every now and then but, come on, its ridiculous to actually spout this off all the time.

Figuratively, or do you actually sit there laughing?

[sidSmith]

And how was Mancini part of the problem exactly? Giving him endless amount of chances and yet he rarely bothered to give full 100% for the cause never mind personal developement.

I was indifferent when he left but now I'm happy the fucker has gone. Every fucking idiot in this world who think football in Serie A and football in Premier League is somewhat comparable, eventhough showing one game from each league to fucker from Mars would tell they aren't, will keep wanking over him and the whole thing makes me laugh. I'm sure he'll score some goals in fucking slower than slow paced Serie A standing there between defenders and getting every single cross and throughball aimed at him. But he will and could never raise his game when 100% effort was needed. He couldn't deal with bit of kicking he got from defenders always fucking moaning and whining at refs or even worse, delivering some retarded avenge. And I'm sure he'll score some goals against mighty FC Tirol in Champion's League and I will have to read this fucking crap here over and over again.

And again, what the fuck does that have to do with Mancini? If anything, he deserves bollocking for giving him too many chances and dragging with us to this season where, let's face it, he did square root of sweet fuck all.

Not much I can add that the other responses haven't already said. I think his management of him was piss poor and using him as a scapegoat was just ridiculous.

Maureen admitted that he couldn't manage him, yet Mancini thought that he could. He was confident enough to sign him and it failed. Ballotelli was the same person that Mancini thought he could manage, he didn't change or become any worse than he was at previous clubs, yet he couldn't do it. Which part of that isn't Mancini's fault?

[carl_feedthegoat]

I'm sure he'll score some goals in fucking slower than slow paced Serie A standing there between defenders and getting every single cross and throughball aimed at him.

I'm sorry but this attitude is just the epitome of English football arrogance. The Serie A might be worse than the PL, but it is not slower than slow. The trend here is that if a player fails in England, the only reason they are making it overseas is because of the shite league they are now playing in. It's horrible reasoning. Maybe Mario is succeeding because of a new role in the team, less media negativity, more focus on tactics in Italy, better understanding with his teammates, or 100's of other reasons.

Plus, who can say the PL is even that good this year? A average to below average scum team running away with the title and all teams already out of the CL. Maybe English teams should slow down and they might stop tiring themselves out running around like headless chickens all game.

This is like having your girlfriend leave you for another guy and complain "Well, she only likes him because he gives in easier and buys her everything." Maybe it's because he is not a fat, lazy asshole, has a better fitting personality, and actually fucks her right.

Actually, more often than not, it is because the fat ugly bastid buys her everything.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

couldn't give a fuck what he's doing in the italian league, he was mostly a grade a lazy twat for us, with a shocking temperament.

talented? occasionally. and that's not good enough.

can anyone really argue with that?

It's like when your girlfriend leaves you for another guy, and you think "well, she's beautiful, and she was a spectacular fuck, on the odd occasion she wasn't having a breakdown, throwing bottles at me or sucking someone else's chod."

[twosips]

ha ^ excellent...pretty much sums it up

[Themontyburns]

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I said he got the extra yard he needed, not that he left them for dead.

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A lot of blues have been utterly brainwashed by the media and Mancini's bullshit excuses. Very sad.

Numbers don't lie.... make that 10 goals in 8 games





Mancini is a d!ck for the way he treat it Mario and than letting him go for peanuts, (20m?) we have been robbed and lost a genuine world class striker..... Well done City

Mancini's one size fits all man-management is beyond shit... absolutely dreadful.

Balotelli had the best goal scoring ratio in our side last season... what happen than? he was wasted and played out of position, when he did play, which wasn't often. It's fookin annoying when he talked him up saying, Balo can do this & that .. blah blah, Yet never gave him a run of games, he put in a great performance vs Wigan scoring the winner, and then DROP him.. WTF?

His comments post match, all but negative ... "Mario played so so, he did okay but not good" .. "he need to do better" ... AND
constantly saying "He's risking his career if he continues to throw his talent out of the window... FOOKIN HELL.

Allegri, on the other hand make him what Mancini could not, simple as that, he looks relax even professional on ACM games, the same goes for Prandelli & the NT. Watch (50.15) and you can see why he's performing so well with the NT & indeed ACM.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S18Fz2fl2dQ&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S18Fz2fl ... e=youtu.be

***Prandelli waited for him, put his arm around & walked together in the tunnel having a chat..
2-0 down kept his faith in him, made 2 changes, adjust his tactics from 4312 to 433, he get a positive result and the the best out of Balotelli as he capped an inspiring performance with a majestic goal that left Neymar (60m?) in the shadows.

***NOW imagine this was Mancini, you can bet your mortgage on him taking Mario off at halftime, applying bizarre tactics, loosing the game and it's all Balotelli's fault, misfiring strikers & missing out on RvP.

[Im_Spartacus]

A lot of blues have been utterly brainwashed by the media and Mancini's bullshit excuses. Very sad.

Numbers don't lie.... make that 10 goals in 8 games

Mancini is a d!ck for the way he treat it Mario and than letting him go for peanuts, (20m?) we have been robbed and lost a genuine world class striker..... Well done City

Mancini's one size fits all man-management is beyond shit... absolutely dreadful.

Balotelli had the best goal scoring ratio in our side last season... what happen than? he was wasted and played out of position, when he did play, which wasn't often. It's fookin annoying when he talked him up saying, Balo can do this & that .. blah blah, Yet never gave him a run of games, he put in a great performance vs Wigan scoring the winner, and then DROP him.. WTF?

His comments post match, all but negative ... "Mario played so so, he did okay but not good" .. "he need to do better" ... AND
constantly saying "He's risking his career if he continues to throw his talent out of the window... FOOKIN HELL.

Allegri, on the other hand make him what Mancini could not, simple as that, he looks relax even professional on ACM games, the same goes for Prandelli & the NT. Watch (50.15) and you can see why he's performing so well with the NT & indeed ACM.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S18Fz2fl2dQ&feature=youtu.be">YouTube Link</a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S18Fz2fl ... e=youtu.be

***Prandelli waited for him, put his arm around & walked together in the tunnel having a chat..
2-0 down kept his faith in him, made 2 changes, adjust his tactics from 4312 to 433, he get a positive result and the the best out of Balotelli as he capped an inspiring performance with a majestic goal that left Neymar (60m?) in the shadows.

***NOW imagine this was Mancini, you can bet your mortgage on him taking Mario off at halftime, applying bizarre tactics, loosing the game and it's all Balotelli's fault, misfiring strikers & missing out on RvP.

So is it chicken or egg.

Whilst I agree with much of what you say, you can't blame Mancini for Balotelli being a nutjob and a real lazy fucker much of the time.

Although does his languid attitude on the pitch reflect that he was fucked off with the job he had to do?

Suppose its a valid question

I didn't like Balotelli at city for his attitude on the pitch, but if he goes to another club and turns immediately into the player we could have had, then I suppose questions are going to be asked of Mancini - it would be negligent not to.

If he is still performing like this next season, then I suppose some serious questions are gonna be asked of mancinis management style by fans

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

So Spartacus. We are questioning his man management. (not without reason), his record in the transfer market isn't brilliant, its widely acknowledged that his tactics and team selection are often bizarre or questionable at least. He whines constantly about the same things (not getting the players he wants and playing too many games). Which bit of this management mullarkey is he meant to be good at?

I wasn't sorry to see Balo go, and it is only a handful of games he has scored in, but if he continues to score over a season or two then it will certainly beg the question.
And it may be fair to say the Italian League is weaker (it might not be too) but don't forget how bloody good Mario has looked for Italy, the player we saw at last summer's Euros, looked nowt like the one we watched at City.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

So Spartacus. We are questioning his man management. (not without reason), his record in the transfer market isn't brilliant, its widely acknowledged that his tactics and team selection are often bizarre or questionable at least. He whines constantly about the same things (not getting the players he wants and playing too many games). Which bit of this management mullarkey is he meant to be good at?

I wasn't sorry to see Balo go, and it is only a handful of games he has scored in, but if he continues to score over a season or two then it will certainly beg the question.
And it may be fair to say the Italian League is weaker (it might not be too) but don't forget how bloody good Mario has looked for Italy, the player we saw at last summer's Euros, looked nowt like the one we watched at City.

The bit where he wins trophies. A semi final for every year in management. One of the longest win streaks in Europe with Inter. Qualifying for CL with Lazio on a shoestring. A record points tally in Serie A.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

The bit where he wins trophies. A semi final for every year in management. One of the longest win streaks in Europe with Inter. Qualifying for CL with Lazio on a shoestring. A record points tally in Serie A.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

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Oh THAT bit

[Im_Spartacus]

So Spartacus. We are questioning his man management. (not without reason), his record in the transfer market isn't brilliant, its widely acknowledged that his tactics and team selection are often bizarre or questionable at least. He whines constantly about the same things (not getting the players he wants and playing too many games). Which bit of this management mullarkey is he meant to be good at?

I wasn't sorry to see Balo go, and it is only a handful of games he has scored in, but if he continues to score over a season or two then it will certainly beg the question.
And it may be fair to say the Italian League is weaker (it might not be too) but don't forget how bloody good Mario has looked for Italy, the player we saw at last summer's Euros, looked nowt like the one we watched at City.

To be fair, its harsh to judge Mancini on handling Balotelli alone, but the questions raised by his handling of balo raises other issues as it has to be said that balo is far from the only one to have been on the end of some curious management style.

I'm not getting into the pros and cons of Mancini overall on this thread but will leave it that should Balotelli continue to peform in the way we have seen since leaving (and I will be completely honest I'm going off goals not performances as I haven't seen them, so I may be entirely wrong), then there will be some serious finger pointing at Mancini amongst senior management.

Mancinis only possible defence is the 'tough love' argument, but his tough love has already seen him scrap with Balotelli, unsympathetic to Bellamys training regime, tevez of on a golfing holiday and god knows what else we don't know about.

He might feel it works. I'm not too sure

[maxxi]

A lot of blues have been utterly brainwashed by the media and Mancini's bullshit excuses. Very sad.

Numbers don't lie.... make that 10 goals in 8 games

Mancini is a d!ck for the way he treat it Mario and than letting him go for peanuts, (20m?) we have been robbed and lost a genuine world class striker..... Well done City

Mancini's one size fits all man-management is beyond shit... absolutely dreadful.

Balotelli had the best goal scoring ratio in our side last season... what happen than? he was wasted and played out of position, when he did play, which wasn't often. It's fookin annoying when he talked him up saying, Balo can do this & that .. blah blah, Yet never gave him a run of games, he put in a great performance vs Wigan scoring the winner, and then DROP him.. WTF?

His comments post match, all but negative ... "Mario played so so, he did okay but not good" .. "he need to do better" ... AND
constantly saying "He's risking his career if he continues to throw his talent out of the window... FOOKIN HELL.

Allegri, on the other hand make him what Mancini could not, simple as that, he looks relax even professional on ACM games, the same goes for Prandelli & the NT. Watch (50.15) and you can see why he's performing so well with the NT & indeed ACM.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S18Fz2fl2dQ&feature=youtu.be">YouTube Link</a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S18Fz2fl ... e=youtu.be

***Prandelli waited for him, put his arm around & walked together in the tunnel having a chat..
2-0 down kept his faith in him, made 2 changes, adjust his tactics from 4312 to 433, he get a positive result and the the best out of Balotelli as he capped an inspiring performance with a majestic goal that left Neymar (60m?) in the shadows.

***NOW imagine this was Mancini, you can bet your mortgage on him taking Mario off at halftime, applying bizarre tactics, loosing the game and it's all Balotelli's fault, misfiring strikers & missing out on RvP.

So is it chicken or egg.

Whilst I agree with much of what you say, you can't blame Mancini for Balotelli being a nutjob and a real lazy fucker much of the time.

Although does his languid attitude on the pitch reflect that he was fucked off with the job he had to do?

Suppose its a valid question

I didn't like Balotelli at city for his attitude on the pitch, but if he goes to another club and turns immediately into the player we could have had, then I suppose questions are going to be asked of Mancini - it would be negligent not to.

If he is still performing like this next season, then I suppose some serious questions are gonna be asked of mancinis management style by fans

Like I said brainwashed by the media?

I honestly disagree with some of the people who say mario didn't try, lazy... etc,

he was a marked man in this league, referees never gave him any decisions, opponents always had sly digs at him, he didnt score enough no, but this season his general on the ball play and movement off it was spot on in my eyes.

Ask Jamie Redknapp his opinion of Mario, if it agrees with yours, then you can see what type of company you're in.