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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:17 pm

london blue 2 wrote:Yep. As from tomorrow FB is being deleted for a few weeks me thinks. Only good thing is hopefully when we win the cup those cunts will be over their league triumph.

I like you LB (and your brother) and I don't like to use people I like (as if you give a toss ;-)) but the reality is that things like FB et al take over our real love for the club. The fact that somebody could take th piss because they've regained the Championship. Whoop-da-do, haven't we been there before, haven't we been trampled on because they've been the top dog?

Reality mate, these fucks I'm hearing need to grow some and take it as it comes. We really, REALLY, fucked them over last season and no matter what the circumstances, it will be very hard to beat that. You get shit, you give it, the difference being that you haven't just got the Rags now, you've got the world of football. Those lads who used to say we were their 2nd team have gone. Those that respected us have gone. This is football, this is the reality, everybody hates a winner, especially if they've fucked their team at the same time. It's natural, we're partisan and if we weren't, I'd give the fuck up.

The rides still there mate, the one where you throw it back at them. The one where you say their season is run, it's a natural progression. They have to prove year on year, we're just proving year on year, it's just a start. To fall is being unjust, to rally is the cry. Now get some balls and keep that Bullshit account and give them Rags some shit. Pisspots will always be pisspots in my mind, and that's what I'll be pissing on.
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:21 pm

Risby wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:I like the approach but like I say, who do you change? You can't change Vince as it would undermine him as a captain . You can't change Nasti as in most parts he's been excellent. So who are your changes with the personnel available? Garcia was not an option in this game, regardless of how I think he'll come good. Sinclair, well, I'll listen. The only option was to see if our team, a good team, could do something.

So easy isn't it mate, blame the boss because we cannot analyse the the game itself. Mancini gave a perfectly good analysis of what went on but you cannot take that? What is it, you are part of the new culture of blaming one when the reality is more than the simplistic voice you wring?

Well done, Dzeko for Aguero. But tell me, why didn't he start, why wasn't he there in the first place. If he was right, don't you think he should've been there, don't you think that Mancini has used him at every opportunity?

Even worse, you're talking 3 at the back that every amn and his dog are complaining about.

In reality, nobody can win. Whatever happens, wherever we have been (recently), it's all drowned and out because we lost against a CL contender away from home after a tough 2 weeks without half the spine of our team.

And that's why I should never get involved!


Our bench was weak and to be fair anyone we brought on would have perhaps weakened our side technically, but Kolo, Lescott, anyone with a defensive mind and fresh legs could have saved us the mistakes as we would have had extra men covering at the back.
In just gutted we got turned over in the way we did. I believe the boss could have done something about it, others will blame the mistakes. End of the day we lost and now we need to pick ourselves up.

I can read it now. And I agree, it's gutting.

Edit: To be fair mate, you're the only one who's looked at our bench and expressed an opinion, the rest, they just blame Mancini.

Well done, you don't just follow the sheep. Pics, Carl, Ted, Bridge etc.

Bunch of puffs.
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Risby » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:27 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:I can read it now. And I agree, it's gutting.

Edit: To be fair mate, you're the only one who's looked at our bench and expressed an opinion, the rest, they just blame Mancini.

Well done, you don't just follow the sheep. Pics, Carl, Ted, Bridge etc.

Bunch of puffs.


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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby london blue 2 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:29 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:Yep. As from tomorrow FB is being deleted for a few weeks me thinks. Only good thing is hopefully when we win the cup those cunts will be over their league triumph.

I like you LB (and your brother) and I don't like to use people I like (as if you give a toss ;-)) but the reality is that things like FB et al take over our real love for the club. The fact that somebody could take th piss because they've regained the Championship. Whoop-da-do, haven't we been there before, haven't we been trampled on because they've been the top dog?

Reality mate, these fucks I'm hearing need to grow some and take it as it comes. We really, REALLY, fucked them over last season and no matter what the circumstances, it will be very hard to beat that. You get shit, you give it, the difference being that you haven't just got the Rags now, you've got the world of football. Those lads who used to say we were their 2nd team have gone. Those that respected us have gone. This is football, this is the reality, everybody hates a winner, especially if they've fucked their team at the same time. It's natural, we're partisan and if we weren't, I'd give the fuck up.

The rides still there mate, the one where you throw it back at them. The one where you say their season is run, it's a natural progression. They have to prove year on year, we're just proving year on year, it's just a start. To fall is being unjust, to rally is the cry. Now get some balls and keep that Bullshit account and give them Rags some shit. Pisspots will always be pisspots in my mind, and that's what I'll be pissing on.

Mate one of my brothers is a rag and a couple of my good friends (typical Londoners lol). I can take the shit from them, it's the part time twats that suddenly pipe up and wanna pretend they know stuff about football that winds me up. I'd rather not read it that's all.
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:30 pm

Risby wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:I can read it now. And I agree, it's gutting.

Edit: To be fair mate, you're the only one who's looked at our bench and expressed an opinion, the rest, they just blame Mancini.

Well done, you don't just follow the sheep. Pics, Carl, Ted, Bridge etc.

Bunch of puffs.


Ha ha ha.

I got accused of giving this thread up mate. The 3 'Legends' above can't even get themselves out of bed. Glory hunters have more to say than them.
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:00 pm

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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:06 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
So easy isn't it mate, blame the boss because we cannot analyse the the game itself. Mancini gave a perfectly good analysis of what went on but you cannot take that? What is it, you are part of the new culture of blaming one when the reality is more than the simplistic voice you wring?

Well done, Dzeko for Aguero. But tell me, why didn't he start, why wasn't he there in the first place. If he was right, don't you think he should've been there, don't you think that Mancini has used him at every opportunity?

Even worse, you're talking 3 at the back that every amn and his dog are complaining about.

In reality, nobody can win. Whatever happens, wherever we have been (recently), it's all drowned and out because we lost against a CL contender away from home after a tough 2 weeks without half the spine of our team.

And that's why I should never get involved!


Where to start...

Mancini said we were the better side for 80 minutes. To me, their equaliser was coming for a good 10 minutes. So where do you sit - was their equaliser out of the blue or was it inevitable with the way the game was going.

Aguero - clearly not fully fit, but surely he could have come on for the last 20 minutes or so? If not, why even have him on the bench? You may as well have had Lopes or Giudetti than a player you won't play, no matter how much the game needs him.

As for 3 at the back, it doesn't work if we start with it. However it has worked at times in games as it changes the rest of the formation around. It also allowed us to close the game out against Chelsea by nullifying their high balls.

So are you ok with us losing to a team who'll probably end up 5th and in doing so allowing the rags to wander to the title and our 2nd place to be put at risk (thanks Liverpool)?
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Spurge » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:22 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Let me put this in perspective, we have just played a near full strength Spurs team, away from home with 2, now 3, of our best players not being available. We've just come off the back off an exausting run of games, beating:

United 2-1 away from home

Chelsea 2-1 away from home

Wigan 1-0 at home

all in the space of time where Spurs have not played a single game. That's right, the last time Spurs played was Thu 11 Apr, a full 2 weeks rest.

I asked a few questions in the OP and I think I got my answer. I also worried about fatigue setting in and strangely enough, the last 20 minutes we fell away.

Any coincidence, surely not.


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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Original Dub » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:44 pm

zabbadabbado wrote:Again it is hard to disagree with anything you say.

But your solution will be the equivalent of taking a hammer to crack an egg.

My solution is we stick with Roberto Mancini for at least another season,try and rectify what you have listed.He deserves that,surely ?.

?


Do you have to say his full name in every post mate?

I think everyone will know who you're talking about if you just say Mancini.

Mancini is a conundrum. I can't figure him out but I'm not in a hurry to get rid of him on the back of what looks like 3 major trophies in 3 years.

There is only possibly two managers that have won more than he has that might come here and the upheaval of it all is just too much considering we are watching our finances.
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Original Dub » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:01 pm

Maybe if the silly bastard hadn't smoked a fat one right before the game, we might have had a chance.



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Although it does explain his substitutions...
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:24 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Risby wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:I can read it now. And I agree, it's gutting.

Edit: To be fair mate, you're the only one who's looked at our bench and expressed an opinion, the rest, they just blame Mancini.

Well done, you don't just follow the sheep. Pics, Carl, Ted, Bridge etc.

Bunch of puffs.


Ha ha ha.

I got accused of giving this thread up mate. The 3 'Legends' above can't even get themselves out of bed. Glory hunters have more to say than them.


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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby zabbadabbado » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:05 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
zabbadabbado wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Elvistheblue wrote:
phips wrote:Spurs were the better team from basically the start. Tevez created the only goal from basically nothing and against the run of play. Not good enough today.


Against the run of play? we score a goal after 4 minutes against the run of play....yeah cos we were under the cosh for 4 minutes weren't we?


Hilarious isnt he.
We batterered them all the first half then just didnt turn up the second half,Mancini did ZERO to change the obvious failings on the pitch...its deja vu.
Why don't you apply for the job ?your like a broken record every time we lose.Fuck me the man has won us the FA Cup,Premier League,Charity Shield took us to another Final.Yet you sit at your keyboard waiting for a bad result to start spewing your bile.We lost a game it happens,nobody has lost the plot except you.HE IS GOING NOWHERE FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS GET OVER IT. HE IS THE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL MANAGER IN ENGLAND RIGHT NOW !!!!!!!


Actually fuckead, I was in Cap cana with my mrs for her birthday surprise and I had a massive argument with her over me watching City on the fucking box instead of a fuckign romatic bastard walk on the beach at 8.30 am!!!

After watching that shiteeeeee second half I did indeed become a keyboard warrior as it really was not worth the fucking ear ache I got over it......

2 bottles of wine and a fuckign neckless later Im only just startign to get a bit of sugar back so you can fuckign gooooooooooo do one you cunt.
i think you need to chill out a bit mate.

Every post you make is negative towards Roberto Mancini,your like a dog with a bone after every decision he makes you don't agree with.I think many would describe your hatred as pathological.

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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:16 am

Blue Since 76 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
So easy isn't it mate, blame the boss because we cannot analyse the the game itself. Mancini gave a perfectly good analysis of what went on but you cannot take that? What is it, you are part of the new culture of blaming one when the reality is more than the simplistic voice you wring?

Well done, Dzeko for Aguero. But tell me, why didn't he start, why wasn't he there in the first place. If he was right, don't you think he should've been there, don't you think that Mancini has used him at every opportunity?

Even worse, you're talking 3 at the back that every amn and his dog are complaining about.

In reality, nobody can win. Whatever happens, wherever we have been (recently), it's all drowned and out because we lost against a CL contender away from home after a tough 2 weeks without half the spine of our team.

And that's why I should never get involved!


Where to start...

Mancini said we were the better side for 80 minutes. To me, their equaliser was coming for a good 10 minutes. So where do you sit - was their equaliser out of the blue or was it inevitable with the way the game was going.

Aguero - clearly not fully fit, but surely he could have come on for the last 20 minutes or so? If not, why even have him on the bench? You may as well have had Lopes or Giudetti than a player you won't play, no matter how much the game needs him.

As for 3 at the back, it doesn't work if we start with it. However it has worked at times in games as it changes the rest of the formation around. It also allowed us to close the game out against Chelsea by nullifying their high balls.

So are you ok with us losing to a team who'll probably end up 5th and in doing so allowing the rags to wander to the title and our 2nd place to be put at risk (thanks Liverpool)?

Ahhhh, the where to start debate. I won't even go into the 3 at the back, it's a non-starter and if he'd gone with it he would've been crucified. As for where I sat, we were soaking up pressure and yes, I thought they'd get chances. The problem I had, and mentioned it at the time, was who could we bring on to sure it up? Looking at the bench there was nobody who had the pace to defend what they had. Garcia is just too slow and there was nobody else who could just sit. Mancini decided to bring Sinclair on to try and change the formation but in the time he brought him on, it all changed again.

And yes, although not happy in the context you put it, I am happy to lose to a full force Spurs team who are fighting it out for a CL place and to be honest, I'm surprised you'd even ask the question. Seems we're supposed to win every game these days, regardless of the opposition. It must be getting a bit of a sad world for some Blues who expect everything on a plate, even a win isn't good enough to quench the thirst, only by winning and winning by a number of goals is allowed now.
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:19 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Risby wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:I can read it now. And I agree, it's gutting.

Edit: To be fair mate, you're the only one who's looked at our bench and expressed an opinion, the rest, they just blame Mancini.

Well done, you don't just follow the sheep. Pics, Carl, Ted, Bridge etc.

Bunch of puffs.


Ha ha ha.

I got accused of giving this thread up mate. The 3 'Legends' above can't even get themselves out of bed. Glory hunters have more to say than them.


I was on the beach.

Bastard. Nice one ;-)
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:46 am

Beefymcfc wrote:Ahhhh, the where to start debate. I won't even go into the 3 at the back, it's a non-starter and if he'd gone with it he would've been crucified. As for where I sat, we were soaking up pressure and yes, I thought they'd get chances. The problem I had, and mentioned it at the time, was who could we bring on to sure it up? Looking at the bench there was nobody who had the pace to defend what they had. Garcia is just too slow and there was nobody else who could just sit. Mancini decided to bring Sinclair on to try and change the formation but in the time he brought him on, it all changed again.

And yes, although not happy in the context you put it, I am happy to lose to a full force Spurs team who are fighting it out for a CL place and to be honest, I'm surprised you'd even ask the question. Seems we're supposed to win every game these days, regardless of the opposition. It must be getting a bit of a sad world for some Blues who expect everything on a plate, even a win isn't good enough to quench the thirst, only by winning and winning by a number of goals is allowed now.


Did anyone crucify him for going 3 at the back against Chelsea?

And whilst anyone can lose to Spurs (rags at home) the issue is the way we went from comfortable to 3-1 down over about 20 minutes whilst the management team just sat and watched. I accept that Spurs were fresher than us and it was clear we had players with lead feet towards the end, but we did nothing to help them through new personnel or changed formation.

And if there was nothing on the bench to change it (which I disagree with) then he should be sacked on that alone considering what has been spent. What's the point of Garcia if you can't trust him to add some defensive qualities to midfield? Why have Aguero on the bench if you can't risk him for the last 15 minutes?
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Moonchesteri » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:08 am

Original Dub wrote:Maybe if the silly bastard hadn't smoked a fat one right before the game, we might have had a chance.

Although it does explain his substitutions...


Haha. That cheered me up a bit
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Postby dazby » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:05 am

We should have gone with 3 at the back.
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Ajardine » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:12 am

I love Bobby, but he was beaten hands down yesterday. Tactically he got it wrong.
The bloke has bought is trophies, yet people want him gone? Why don't we sell up to Abramovic whilst we are at it and ruin the club. We need to keep the faith and not keep chopping and changing managers!
Yes Mancini got it wrong, lets move on, win the FA Cup and rebuild for next season!
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Original Dub » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:19 am

zabbadabbado wrote:i think you need to chill out a bit mate.

Every post you make is negative towards Roberto Mancini,your like a dog with a bone after every decision he makes you don't agree with.I think many would describe your hatred as pathological.

Every Home game tens of Thousands sing his name loudly and clearly,that will do for me.


There's the full name again.

Something odd about this one. An obsessive type perhaps?
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Re: ***Official Spurs v City Match Thread***

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:44 am

Ajardine wrote:I love Bobby, but he was beaten hands down yesterday. Tactically he got it wrong.
The bloke has bought is trophies, yet people want him gone? Why don't we sell up to Abramovic whilst we are at it and ruin the club. We need to keep the faith and not keep chopping and changing managers!
Yes Mancini got it wrong, lets move on, win the FA Cup and rebuild for next season!


The issue is, as you point out, he was beaten tactically yesterday. Some fans, myself included, would say that his tactical naivety is the reason the club would consider changing him. I don't think he's a bad manager and clearly he's got the knowledge to beat many premier league managers (and I'd include Taggart as a manager he has more tactical knowledge than), however, there are many European managers who have proven more tactically adept than him, going back to when he was manager at Inter.

City is becoming a top (world?) class club in most departments - Executive team, training ground, plans for the stadium, many of the players. Is the coaching staff at that level? Whether they are or not is a subjective opinion, but I'm pretty sure if the senior management feel they're not, they'll replace them with what they believe is an upgrade. If they do, they won't.
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