Drop Hart? (NEW POLL AFTER CHELSEA FARCE))

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Should Joe Hart be Dropped and Costel given a chance?

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Postby Green & Blue » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:28 pm

Breks wrote:Victor Valdes will be available in January.


He's available for a good reason, has to be one the most vastly overrated goakeepers in the history of the game.Back to Joe he did himself no harm over the past week in two important games, he needed that hope it gives him a big boost.
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Postby Green & Blue » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:31 pm

johnny crossan wrote:let's have a new poll for who should play at Upton Park


Only if we can make Ricky Wright an option.
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Postby Hazy2 » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:39 am

Has looked like he is back on it last 2 games well done Joe Hart.
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Re: Drop Hart? (NOW WITH ADDED POLL)

Postby dazby » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:08 am

It's worth noting that although he hasn't copped any flack for the goal conceded, Joe gave himself no chance of making a save. He got in a great position for the bicycle kick, but because his weight was on his heels, he couldn't move. This is evidenced by his backwards movement after the goal was scored.

I doubt any keeper would have made the save, but it's another example of his poor concentration.
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Postby daveh1962 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:14 am

dazby wrote:It's worth noting that although he hasn't copped any flack for the goal conceded, Joe gave himself no chance of making a save. He got in a great position for the bicycle kick, but because his weight was on his heels, he couldn't move. This is evidenced by his backwards movement after the goal was scored.

I doubt any keeper would have made the save, but it's another example of his poor concentration.


That is utter nonsense
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Postby freshie » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:27 am

dazby wrote:It's worth noting that although he hasn't copped any flack for the goal conceded, Joe gave himself no chance of making a save. He got in a great position for the bicycle kick, but because his weight was on his heels, he couldn't move. This is evidenced by his backwards movement after the goal was scored. I doubt any keeper would have made the save, but it's another example of his poor concentration.


What a load of crap
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Postby dazby » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:37 am

Care to expand lads?
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Postby MilnersJaw » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:02 am

dazby wrote:It's worth noting that although he hasn't copped any flack for the goal conceded, Joe gave himself no chance of making a save. He got in a great position for the bicycle kick, but because his weight was on his heels, he couldn't move. This is evidenced by his backwards movement after the goal was scored.

I doubt any keeper would have made the save, but it's another example of his poor concentration.


Exactly. I thought he is making an effort here and half way through he didn't make any attempt to save it even if he couldn't. Lost count how many times he's done that
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Postby Alioune DVToure » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:14 am

dazby wrote:It's NOT worth noting that although he hasn't copped any flack for the goal conceded, Joe gave himself no chance of making a save. He got in a great position for the bicycle kick, but because his weight was on his heels, he couldn't move. This is evidenced by his backwards movement after the goal was scored.

I doubt any keeper would have made the save, but it's another example of his poor concentration.


Corrected for you.
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Postby bobbyspater » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:18 am

Didn't really fault him for the goal, which came because Garcia was the wrong side of his man. Overall, though I thought he looked a little jumpy and lacking in confidence throughout the game - there were a couple of times he seemed reluctant to come and claim a ball when the defender was doing his job in blocking off an attacker. More worrying is any real improvement in his starting position at corners - he wants to pre-position himself where he thinks the ball is going to come, is consequently too easy to block and gets stuck under the ball when it does arrive, trying to jump from a standing position with his arms already in the raised position. The very best keepers start from a deeper position and can create some momentum with a run to attack the ball at the highest point possible. One wonders what the coaches are doing to rectify a long-standing weakness in Joe's technique.
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Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:30 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
dazby wrote:It's NOT worth noting that although he hasn't copped any flack for the goal conceded, Joe gave himself no chance of making a save. He got in a great position for the bicycle kick, but because his weight was on his heels, he couldn't move. This is evidenced by his backwards movement after the goal was scored.

I doubt any keeper would have made the save, but it's another example of his poor concentration.


Corrected for you.


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Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:38 am

dazby wrote:It's worth noting that although he hasn't copped any flack for the goal conceded, Joe gave himself no chance of making a save. He got in a great position for the bicycle kick, but because his weight was on his heels, he couldn't move. This is evidenced by his backwards movement after the goal was scored.

I doubt any keeper would have made the save, but it's another example of his poor concentration.


Also spent a couple of corner kicks with concentrating on pushing Nolan instead of focusing solely on what was going on around him. What's up with this shoving? Am I missing something here or is this weird?
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Postby Nigels Tackle » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:39 am

MilnersJaw wrote:
dazby wrote:It's worth noting that although he hasn't copped any flack for the goal conceded, Joe gave himself no chance of making a save. He got in a great position for the bicycle kick, but because his weight was on his heels, he couldn't move. This is evidenced by his backwards movement after the goal was scored.

I doubt any keeper would have made the save, but it's another example of his poor concentration.


Exactly. I thought he is making an effort here and half way through he didn't make any attempt to save it even if he couldn't. Lost count how many times he's done that


you must be really shit at counting given how few goals he's conceded over the past 3 seasons
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Postby dazby » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:58 am

Cocacolajojo wrote:
dazby wrote:It's worth noting that although he hasn't copped any flack for the goal conceded, Joe gave himself no chance of making a save. He got in a great position for the bicycle kick, but because his weight was on his heels, he couldn't move. This is evidenced by his backwards movement after the goal was scored.

I doubt any keeper would have made the save, but it's another example of his poor concentration.


Also spent a couple of corner kicks with concentrating on pushing Nolan instead of focusing solely on what was going on around him. What's up with this shoving? Am I missing something here or is this weird?


The second Nolan pushes back its a free kick so maybe he was trying to bait him?
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Postby Sideshow Bob » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:32 pm

bobbyspater wrote:Didn't really fault him for the goal, which came because Garcia was the wrong side of his man. Overall, though I thought he looked a little jumpy and lacking in confidence throughout the game - there were a couple of times he seemed reluctant to come and claim a ball when the defender was doing his job in blocking off an attacker. More worrying is any real improvement in his starting position at corners - he wants to pre-position himself where he thinks the ball is going to come, is consequently too easy to block and gets stuck under the ball when it does arrive, trying to jump from a standing position with his arms already in the raised position. The very best keepers start from a deeper position and can create some momentum with a run to attack the ball at the highest point possible. One wonders what the coaches are doing to rectify a long-standing weakness in Joe's technique.


agreed. flapping at simple balls into the box and charging off his line into no man's land. still not good enough, imo. his lack of confidence is infectious for our back line.
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Postby MilnersJaw » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:12 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:
you must be really shit at counting given how few goals he's conceded over the past 3 seasons


I never said he does it every time, but you must be blind if you cant see some of his half arsed attempts to save some he has conceded. It's a fact he's not been great these last 18 months. That long shot against everton last season and the scuffed Shrek goal that come to mind instantly.
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Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:31 pm

MilnersJaw wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:
you must be really shit at counting given how few goals he's conceded over the past 3 seasons


I never said he does it every time, but you must be blind if you cant see some of his half arsed attempts to save some he has conceded. It's a fact he's not been great these last 18 months. That long shot against everton last season and the scuffed Shrek goal that come to mind instantly.


Which Everton goal are you referring to?
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Re: Drop Hart? (NOW WITH ADDED POLL)

Postby MilnersJaw » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:04 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Which Everton goal are you referring to?


I said last season so that's two games to chiose from. Sure you can find it. He makes no attempt to save it and because it was against us the commentators and presses creamed themselves over it.
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Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:01 pm

MilnersJaw wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Which Everton goal are you referring to?


I said last season so that's two games to chiose from. Sure you can find it. He makes no attempt to save it and because it was against us the commentators and presses creamed themselves over it.


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Postby MilnersJaw » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:54 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Thanks.


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