
Mase wrote:Foden getting a lot of stick, similar to how Scholes used to when England lost.
Must be hard for him having to play with absolute turd players.
Sideshow Bob wrote:Mase wrote:Foden getting a lot of stick, similar to how Scholes used to when England lost.
Must be hard for him having to play with absolute turd players.
tbf we’ve given him a lot of stick about his club form, too. he has been worryingly shit. decent game here or there, thats about it, which is not where he should be at this stage in his career imo.
Mase wrote:Sideshow Bob wrote:Mase wrote:Foden getting a lot of stick, similar to how Scholes used to when England lost.
Must be hard for him having to play with absolute turd players.
tbf we’ve given him a lot of stick about his club form, too. he has been worryingly shit. decent game here or there, thats about it, which is not where he should be at this stage in his career imo.
From the limited amount I saw, Foden definitely doesn’t deserve stick out of all those England players.
If anything he ignited them a bit when Southgate decided to start him.
There’s probably 7 or 8 players that should be criticised before Foden, unless I’ve missed something?
Sideshow Bob wrote:i agree he was better than most of them but fairly or unfairly he is held to a higher standard. given his talent and his experience at the highest level, he can/should be doing more imo.
Sideshow Bob wrote:i agree he was better than most of them but fairly or unfairly he is held to a higher standard. given his talent and his experience at the highest level, he can/should be doing more imo.
Harry Dowd scored wrote:I find it strange Wokegate is getting such favourable reports in the media anybody got an explanation for this?
Mase wrote:I do also think that there’s some terrible England players being made out to be good. Maguire, Pickford, Shaw, Henderson, Mount, Rashford.
Rice is average. Bellingham had 2 good games. What’s his option for changing Kane? Wilson
Dimples wrote:It is possible that England could win the next Euros and/or WC with Southgate as manager. Replace Southgate with a very good manager and it becomes a probability.
1. Henderson has the ball. 2. Foden makes a run creating space for a pass 3. The pass never comes to Foden, Henderson passes square or back (does not anticipate or see Foden's run)
4. Media headlines: Henderson superb, Foden fails.
Kane bottles penalty number 2 under pressure effectively knocking his team out of WC. Media reaction: he has scored lots of penalties for England in the past
Rashford wastes a free kick at the end. Media reaction: great effort, inches away
Bellingham attitude is dreadful. Histrionics all through the France match. He is only 19 but the omens are not good, even if you ignore 'that' celebration with Henderson.
Media were positive about Walker which surprised me.
Bottom line is it panned out as expected, Southgate is not a good manager, he should go, his game time management is criminal, QF exit whilst in charge of the deepest squad in the WC. Third big tournament exit as soon as England play decent team.
I feel sorry for the players. Sad thing is they think Southgate can deliver. The nice guy (which he is) loser is not a winner at the top table and never will be.
zuricity wrote:Dimples wrote:It is possible that England could win the next Euros and/or WC with Southgate as manager. Replace Southgate with a very good manager and it becomes a probability.
1. Henderson has the ball. 2. Foden makes a run creating space for a pass 3. The pass never comes to Foden, Henderson passes square or back (does not anticipate or see Foden's run)
4. Media headlines: Henderson superb, Foden fails.
Kane bottles penalty number 2 under pressure effectively knocking his team out of WC. Media reaction: he has scored lots of penalties for England in the past
Rashford wastes a free kick at the end. Media reaction: great effort, inches away
Bellingham attitude is dreadful. Histrionics all through the France match. He is only 19 but the omens are not good, even if you ignore 'that' celebration with Henderson.
Media were positive about Walker which surprised me.
Bottom line is it panned out as expected, Southgate is not a good manager, he should go, his game time management is criminal, QF exit whilst in charge of the deepest squad in the WC. Third big tournament exit as soon as England play decent team.
I feel sorry for the players. Sad thing is they think Southgate can deliver. The nice guy (which he is) loser is not a winner at the top table and never will be.
Back in the North West over the weekend, My brothers and i managed to get out of the meal as we heard the roars of "Penalty".
Without doubt Kane did a great job on the Spuds goalie, his work Colleague when he checked his walk , reset the ball and hammered the first Penalty.
On the second penalty, he seemed to be unsure and i think he should have reset the ball again and .... handed it over to another player. That would have really thrown Lloris. However he didn't being the selfish twunt he is. He set everything up all wrong on the second penalty. Just shows you how thick some football players are.
Mase wrote:I do also think that there’s some terrible England players being made out to be good. Maguire, Pickford, Shaw, Henderson, Mount, Rashford.
Rice is average. Bellingham had 2 good games. What’s his option for changing Kane? Wilson
PeterParker wrote:So Southgate is staying.
Smart move for him. Why not milking it when you know no one will hire you?
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