MCFC v UEFA | Verdict 13 Jul 20

[PrezIke]

UEFA need to get rid of FFP. This might be its death knell.

If they truly want "fair" (which no system can ever truly be, and of course many of us doubt that's what they want), they should implement some form of flexible wage cap system.

They should look at the NBA which has the best one I am aware of.

Ironically, enough NBA players and agents have been watching football and how players push to leave before their contracts are finished rather than wait to become a "free agent" so it still doesn't quite stop all of the "richest" and "best" or most popular clubs from accruing talent, but is more sensible than FFP which does not reward clubs for how well they manage their players as assets rather than whether they are winners in clandestine financial strategies or not at all and reliant on their past to earn revenues regardless of how well they do on the pitch.

[carolina-blue]

The PL can suck a dick. If they’re happy for us to take them to court then go for it - try punishing us. They’ve seen what has happened so I’ll be surprised if they try anything.

Genuine question. Where’s this PL shit coming from
What have we done against them ? All I heard was the usual bitter nomark journos hoping we get fucked by waffa

[Mase]

UEFA need to get rid of FFP. This might be its death knell.

If they truly want "fair" (which no system can ever truly be, and of course many of us doubt that's what they want), they should implement some form of flexible wage cap system.

They should look at the NBA which has the best one I am aware of.

Ironically, enough NBA players and agents have been watching football and how players push to leave before their contracts are finished rather than wait to become a "free agent" so it still doesn't quite stop all of the "richest" and "best" or most popular clubs from accruing talent, but is more sensible than FFP which does not reward clubs for how well they manage their players as assets rather than whether they are winners in clandestine financial strategies or not at all and reliant on their past to earn revenues regardless of how well they do on the pitch.

NBA is different - you trade players, you don’t buy and sell them. You essentially trade their salaries to free up money for other salaries. So sometimes you get really poor players on huge salaries, it’s ridiculous

[john@staustell]

UEFA need to get rid of FFP. This might be its death knell.

If they truly want "fair" (which no system can ever truly be, and of course many of us doubt that's what they want), they should implement some form of flexible wage cap system.

Surely Covid will see the end ' Unfair Play? Loads of clubs will need money pumped in from somewhere

[PeterParker]

The PL can suck a dick. If they’re happy for us to take them to court then go for it - try punishing us. They’ve seen what has happened so I’ll be surprised if they try anything.

Genuine question. Where’s this PL shit coming from
What have we done against them ? All I heard was the usual bitter nomark journos hoping we get fucked by waffa

We ruined ”the balanced”. Remember when Big Four became TOP 6 because of us? Now when the red shite were 7 in became Top 8.
PL, as UEFA, are our enemy.

[carl_feedthegoat]

UEFA need to get rid of FFP. This might be its death knell.

If they truly want "fair" (which no system can ever truly be, and of course many of us doubt that's what they want), they should implement some form of flexible wage cap system.

Surely Covid will see the end ' Unfair Play? Loads of clubs will need money pumped in from somewhere

We should denounce this possible move as unfair.

[Mase]

The PL can suck a dick. If they’re happy for us to take them to court then go for it - try punishing us. They’ve seen what has happened so I’ll be surprised if they try anything.

Genuine question. Where’s this PL shit coming from
What have we done against them ? All I heard was the usual bitter nomark journos hoping we get fucked by waffa

We ruined ”the balanced”. Remember when Big Four became TOP 6 because of us? Now when the red shite were 7 in became Top 8.
PL, as UEFA, are our enemy.

Also you’ve got ex-Chairman and owners from the “Top 4” that are on the board at the Prem and FA

[zuricity]

UEFA need to get rid of FFP. This might be its death knell.

If they truly want "fair" (which no system can ever truly be, and of course many of us doubt that's what they want), they should implement some form of flexible wage cap system.

They should look at the NBA which has the best one I am aware of.

Ironically, enough NBA players and agents have been watching football and how players push to leave before their contracts are finished rather than wait to become a "free agent" so it still doesn't quite stop all of the "richest" and "best" or most popular clubs from accruing talent, but is more sensible than FFP which does not reward clubs for how well they manage their players as assets rather than whether they are winners in clandestine financial strategies or not at all and reliant on their past to earn revenues regardless of how well they do on the pitch.

Please stop with this crap about any professional sports league in the USA. The NFL for example is a Monopoly. Absolutely nothing to do with free market principles .

Salary caps are against fair competition.

[carolina-blue]

The PL can suck a dick. If they’re happy for us to take them to court then go for it - try punishing us. They’ve seen what has happened so I’ll be surprised if they try anything.

Genuine question. Where’s this PL shit coming from
What have we done against them ? All I heard was the usual bitter nomark journos hoping we get fucked by waffa

We ruined ”the balanced”. Remember when Big Four became TOP 6 because of us? Now when the red shite were 7 in became Top 8.

PL, as UEFA, are our enemy.

Also you’ve got ex-Chairman and owners from the “Top 4” that are on the board at the Prem and FA

All trying to protect their trough ,
Though as far as I am aware we haven’t done anything against the Prem besides give them the best players from around the world , so they can
“Sell “ their product , Cunts one and all

[john@staustell]

UEFA need to get rid of FFP. This might be its death knell.

If they truly want "fair" (which no system can ever truly be, and of course many of us doubt that's what they want), they should implement some form of flexible wage cap system.

Surely Covid will see the end ' Unfair Play? Loads of clubs will need money pumped in from somewhere

We should denounce this possible move as unfair.

Good point!

[Hutch's Shoulder]

So who is our MOTM then? Khaldoon? The lawyers? The Sheik? Kolarov?

[carl_feedthegoat]

I’ve had threatening Texts to my good self for extreme gloating and piss taking .

That’s not nice is it ?

[BlueinBosnia]

The PL can suck a dick. If they’re happy for us to take them to court then go for it - try punishing us. They’ve seen what has happened so I’ll be surprised if they try anything.

Genuine question. Where’s this PL shit coming from
What have we done against them ? All I heard was the usual bitter nomark journos hoping we get fucked by waffa

I think there was some speculation by a PL board member (or possibly extrapolation from journalists) that *if* we were found guilty of the UEFA charges, there *could* be motivation for the PL to *possibly* look into bringing a case that *might* lead to punishment.

[Mase]

So who is our MOTM then? Khaldoon? The lawyers? The Sheik? Kolarov?

Kolarov most likely sent them a threatening video message, so I’d say they saw that and backed down.

[PrezIke]

Is PL punishment potentially on? How can they punish us if we’ve only been found guilty of non cooperation with UEFA investigation? I’ll be fuming if any punishment is handed down here

As far as I understand, yes, hence why I posted this even after the ruling.

[carolina-blue]

The PL can suck a dick. If they’re happy for us to take them to court then go for it - try punishing us. They’ve seen what has happened so I’ll be surprised if they try anything.

Genuine question. Where’s this PL shit coming from
What have we done against them ? All I heard was the usual bitter nomark journos hoping we get fucked by waffa

I think there was some speculation by a PL board member (or possibly extrapolation from journalists) that *if* we were found guilty of the UEFA charges, there *could* be motivation for the PL to *possibly* look into bringing a case that *might* lead to punishment.

Oh ok Cheers ,

[carl_feedthegoat]

Is PL punishment potentially on? How can they punish us if we’ve only been found guilty of non cooperation with UEFA investigation? I’ll be fuming if any punishment is handed down here

As far as I understand, yes, hence why I posted this even after the ruling.

No they cannot - not under the non cooperation with UEFA as we didn’t break any FFP rules .

[salford city]

The PL can suck a dick. If they’re happy for us to take them to court then go for it - try punishing us. They’ve seen what has happened so I’ll be surprised if they try anything.

Genuine question. Where’s this PL shit coming from
What have we done against them ? All I heard was the usual bitter nomark journos hoping we get fucked by waffa

I think there was some speculation by a PL board member (or possibly extrapolation from journalists) that *if* we were found guilty of the UEFA charges, there *could* be motivation for the PL to *possibly* look into bringing a case that *might* lead to punishment.

Make no mistake both sets of the red shite would be leading the clamour for the PL to add to any UEFA sanctions if the outcome went against us. Be interesting to see where this goes next domestically . We should definitely go after anyone and their media lackeys who attempt to drag our name down

[City64]

I’ve had threatening Texts to my good self for extreme gloating and piss taking .

That’s not nice is it ?

Give me names and addresses I will send my lads round . Is your cat safe ?

[Plain Speaking]

BBC City Hater in chief Banned Roan doesn't know the difference between not co-operating with and obstructing the UEFA investigation. 'Obstruction' doesn't feature in the CAS verdict. Hopefully a libel writ to the BBC from us might assist his comprehension. (can't link his Twitter direct - he's blocked me)

Unfortunately it does seem to mention "obstruction" in the CAS statement:

"considering i) the financial resources of MCFC; ii) the importance of the cooperation of clubs in investigations conducted by the CFCB, because of its limited investigative means; and iii) MCFC’s disregard of such principle and its obstruction of the investigations, the CAS Panel found that a significant fine should be imposed on MCFC and considered it appropriate to reduce UEFA’s initial fine by 2/3, i.e. to the amount of EUR 10 million."