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City64 wrote:It's all a bit fucked and boring to be fair . Have we ever known a manager since Mark Hughes to get it tactically so wrong so often ???

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

City64 wrote:It's all a bit fucked and boring to be fair . Have we ever known a manager since Mark Hughes to get it tactically so wrong so often ???

This is all very disappointing.
I could've sworn you had that Hughes licker fiber in you.

You are going to have your heart broken. Your bezzie mate was biggest Hughes fan around and hated Mancini.

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

Dimples wrote:

johnny crossan wrote:but that's Pep's USP, the only reason he's here is to promote his vision and methods in our primitive football wilderness.

Maybe he has looked at Spain's record compared to England's and decided that tippy-tappy is a better option?

Very very unfair to judge him this season.
He is a visionary and needs time to implement his ideas.
Players know they are being moved on at the end of the season yet he has to rely to them to put in the effort?

Finally, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, 4th place would be in the bag now if the system was not corrupt.
Arsenal and the Rags would be nowhere near us.

So how about a bit of balance - you guys sound and act like a mob.

He may well be a visionary and, moreover, he might be the greatest manager ever to have lived.

However, the way things are going at the moment, it would feel nice just to have a competent, pragmatic personage at the helm and someone who can mould the players we have into an effective unit, playing in a style that suits them. I don't want to have to go on an extended, seemingly endless trek across arid, burning deserts in the hope that somewhere in the future, we might possibly reach our promised land.

I don't want to be regarded as being wilfully impatient but the way things have gone this season, give grounds for some degree of scepticism as to how well the next campaign will go.

Excellent post as always.

I love football visionaries: Valeri Lobanovski, Giovanni Trapattoni, Rinus Michels, Arrigo Sacchi and so on. However football is also pragmatic game. If it's not working, you got to change it. Look at the visionaries mentioned there. They all had some base system but were also reactive. In fact, what really made them visionaries was their ability to take notes and make changes. Pep on the other hand is extremely rigid with his system. Not only will he rarely if ever change the base system he will rarely be flexible with the philosophy according to opposition. And then he ask for completely unsuitable players to fit into his system.

This rigidity is actually the reason why I'm so worried about him. And to me that sort of rigidity is kind of opposite of being visionary. His system is more fancy and complicated than 4-4-2 wide that some English managers held onto u til it was completely outdated and go some extent Pep has hint of that stubborness about him.

Original Dub wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

City64 wrote:It's all a bit fucked and boring to be fair . Have we ever known a manager since Mark Hughes to get it tactically so wrong so often ???

This is all very disappointing.
I could've sworn you had that Hughes licker fiber in you.

You are going to have your heart broken. Your bezzie mate was biggest Hughes fan around and hated Mancini.

Simmered down for one day and he's already on his next breakdown. Mind you, he's never far away from one.

What a horrible, depressing and negative person.

johnny crossan wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:

Dimples wrote:

johnny crossan wrote:but that's Pep's USP, the only reason he's here is to promote his vision and methods in our primitive football wilderness.

Maybe he has looked at Spain's record compared to England's and decided that tippy-tappy is a better option?

Very very unfair to judge him this season.
He is a visionary and needs time to implement his ideas.
Players know they are being moved on at the end of the season yet he has to rely to them to put in the effort?

Finally, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, 4th place would be in the bag now if the system was not corrupt.
Arsenal and the Rags would be nowhere near us.

So how about a bit of balance - you guys sound and act like a mob.

He may well be a visionary and, moreover, he might be the greatest manager ever to have lived.

However, the way things are going at the moment, it would feel nice just to have a competent, pragmatic personage at the helm and someone who can mould the players we have into an effective unit, playing in a style that suits them. I don't want to have to go on an extended, seemingly endless trek across arid, burning deserts in the hope that somewhere in the future, we might possibly reach our promised land.

I don't want to be regarded as being wilfully impatient but the way things have gone this season, give grounds for some degree of scepticism as to how well the next campaign will go.

Excellent post as always.

I love football visionaries: Valeri Lobanovski, Giovanni Trapattoni, Rinus Michels, Arrigo Sacchi and so on. However football is also pragmatic game. If it's not working, you got to change it. Look at the visionaries mentioned there. They all had some base system but were also reactive. In fact, what really made them visionaries was their ability to take notes and make changes. Pep on the other hand is extremely rigid with his system. Not only will he rarely if ever change the base system he will rarely be flexible with the philosophy according to opposition. And then he ask for completely unsuitable players to fit into his system.

This rigidity is actually the reason why I'm so worried about him. And to me that sort of rigidity is kind of opposite of being visionary. His system is more fancy and complicated than 4-4-2 wide that some English managers held onto u til it was completely outdated and go some extent Pep has hint of that stubborness about him.

I remember when 3 touch POMO was where it was at - wither that visionary gleam?
That's the trouble really - football, like life, is an uncertain business. You can't rely on anybody

City64 wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

City64 wrote:It's all a bit fucked and boring to be fair . Have we ever known a manager since Mark Hughes to get it tactically so wrong so often ???

This is all very disappointing.
I could've sworn you had that Hughes licker fiber in you.

You are going to have your heart broken. Your bezzie mate was biggest Hughes fan around and hated Mancini.

Simmered down for one day and he's already on his next breakdown. Mind you, he's never far away from one.

What a horrible, depressing and negative person.

The weirdo lives in an igloo and doesn't get out much , cyberland is his only hope plus medication !

Original Dub wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

City64 wrote:It's all a bit fucked and boring to be fair . Have we ever known a manager since Mark Hughes to get it tactically so wrong so often ???

This is all very disappointing.
I could've sworn you had that Hughes licker fiber in you.

You are going to have your heart broken. Your bezzie mate was biggest Hughes fan around and hated Mancini.

Simmered down for one day and he's already on his next breakdown. Mind you, he's never far away from one.

What a horrible, depressing and negative person.

Justified logic wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

City64 wrote:It's all a bit fucked and boring to be fair . Have we ever known a manager since Mark Hughes to get it tactically so wrong so often ???

This is all very disappointing.
I could've sworn you had that Hughes licker fiber in you.

You are going to have your heart broken. Your bezzie mate was biggest Hughes fan around and hated Mancini.

Simmered down for one day and he's already on his next breakdown. Mind you, he's never far away from one.

What a horrible, depressing and negative person.

Excuse me, have you anything worthwhile to say?

Justified logic wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

City64 wrote:It's all a bit fucked and boring to be fair . Have we ever known a manager since Mark Hughes to get it tactically so wrong so often ???

This is all very disappointing.
I could've sworn you had that Hughes licker fiber in you.

You are going to have your heart broken. Your bezzie mate was biggest Hughes fan around and hated Mancini.

Simmered down for one day and he's already on his next breakdown. Mind you, he's never far away from one.

What a horrible, depressing and negative person.

Excuse me, have you anything worthwhile to say?

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Justified logic wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

City64 wrote:It's all a bit fucked and boring to be fair . Have we ever known a manager since Mark Hughes to get it tactically so wrong so often ???

This is all very disappointing.
I could've sworn you had that Hughes licker fiber in you.

You are going to have your heart broken. Your bezzie mate was biggest Hughes fan around and hated Mancini.

Simmered down for one day and he's already on his next breakdown. Mind you, he's never far away from one.

What a horrible, depressing and negative person.

Excuse me, have you anything worthwhile to say?

*Snowflake alert*

carl_feedthegoat wrote:

Justified logic wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

City64 wrote:It's all a bit fucked and boring to be fair . Have we ever known a manager since Mark Hughes to get it tactically so wrong so often ???

This is all very disappointing.
I could've sworn you had that Hughes licker fiber in you.

You are going to have your heart broken. Your bezzie mate was biggest Hughes fan around and hated Mancini.

Simmered down for one day and he's already on his next breakdown. Mind you, he's never far away from one.

What a horrible, depressing and negative person.

Excuse me, have you anything worthwhile to say?

*Snowflake alert*

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

City64 wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

City64 wrote:It's all a bit fucked and boring to be fair . Have we ever known a manager since Mark Hughes to get it tactically so wrong so often ???

This is all very disappointing.
I could've sworn you had that Hughes licker fiber in you.

You are going to have your heart broken. Your bezzie mate was biggest Hughes fan around and hated Mancini.

Simmered down for one day and he's already on his next breakdown. Mind you, he's never far away from one.

What a horrible, depressing and negative person.

The weirdo lives in an igloo and doesn't get out much , cyberland is his only hope plus medication !

Tweet!
Love conquers all.

carl_feedthegoat wrote:I think you are confused snowflake.

Nigels Tackle wrote:

Justified logic wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

City64 wrote:It's all a bit fucked and boring to be fair . Have we ever known a manager since Mark Hughes to get it tactically so wrong so often ???

This is all very disappointing.
I could've sworn you had that Hughes licker fiber in you.

You are going to have your heart broken. Your bezzie mate was biggest Hughes fan around and hated Mancini.

Simmered down for one day and he's already on his next breakdown. Mind you, he's never far away from one.

What a horrible, depressing and negative person.

Excuse me, have you anything worthwhile to say?

not if past form is anything to go by

Justified logic wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

City64 wrote:It's all a bit fucked and boring to be fair . Have we ever known a manager since Mark Hughes to get it tactically so wrong so often ???

This is all very disappointing.
I could've sworn you had that Hughes licker fiber in you.

You are going to have your heart broken. Your bezzie mate was biggest Hughes fan around and hated Mancini.

Simmered down for one day and he's already on his next breakdown. Mind you, he's never far away from one.

What a horrible, depressing and negative person.

Excuse me, have you anything worthwhile to say?

Nigels Tackle wrote:buddy messages?! hmmmm.....
you live in a fantasy world mate
soon you'll have to change your username to walter mitty

Justified logic wrote:

carl_feedthegoat wrote:I think you are confused snowflake.

Loving your projection of your own insecurity into what you think is an insult. Keep it up; it's strangely, oddly charming.