Parku72 wrote:and let's not forget that Joe Hart would have a lot less to deal with considering the team he plays for!!!! Would love to se a mistakes/save stat!Esky wrote:Individual PL Errors Since Start 2012/2013 Joe Hart - 8 Ali Al-Habsi - 7 Adam Federici - 5 Michel Vorm - 5 Tim Krul - 5 Hart > Dea Gea + Lloris + Cech + Szczesny Time for Panti, no question.
Cocacolajojo wrote:http://mcfc.co.uk/citytv/Match-highlights/2010/September/City-v-Blackburn-extended-highlights
After around 6 minutes, Blackburn score. Similar situation, same keeper.
AG7 wrote:Which 2 morons have voted NO and want to keep Hart?
sheblue wrote:all the media think panti is in tomorrow night, and of course he should be. lets hope he has a good game, last thing we need is two keepers with low confidance.
Ted Hughes wrote:Fucking hell, when the whipping boy stuff starts it really starts.
Blaming him for Kolo Toure pretending he was going to head the ball then ducking under it is really scraping the barrel!
Ted Hughes wrote:Fucking hell, when the whipping boy stuff starts it really starts.
Blaming him for Kolo Toure pretending he was going to head the ball then ducking under it is really scraping the barrel!
MilnersJaw wrote:Perhaps joe hasn't degraded just our excellent possession and defending has covered him for being the useless cunt he is. He was a good shot stopper but even now he fucks up easy saves as well as his constant stupid decisions that cost us points. Maybe he thinks he can be the hero sometimes and save the day, well he ruins our. Drop this cunt and be done with it.
kinkylola wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Fucking hell, when the whipping boy stuff starts it really starts.
Blaming him for Kolo Toure pretending he was going to head the ball then ducking under it is really scraping the barrel!
comment was that it looked like an excellent comparison with what happened recently ... maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me there, but that is Joe Hart a full 35 yards out from goal, right? My point in comparing was that what is he going to do if he accomplished his goal of rushing out to get the ball, there he tried to chest it ... who knows what he would have done in the chelsea game.
Overall, Hart has been excellent for us over the past couple seasons. But I don't like how frequent the mistakes have become. He's got the most mistakes leading to goals ffs ... more than fucking Al Habsi, who is a disaster. Hart needs to ge his head right and go back to being a top keeper. He can get there, and it's going to take him sitting for awhile, in my opinion.
Don't worry Ted, it'll be good for him. And you don't need to continue with all the hyperbole towards people who think hart should sit, we're not enemies, we all want Hart to be great again. He isn't right now, something needs to change.
Ted Hughes wrote:kinkylola wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Fucking hell, when the whipping boy stuff starts it really starts.
Blaming him for Kolo Toure pretending he was going to head the ball then ducking under it is really scraping the barrel!
comment was that it looked like an excellent comparison with what happened recently ... maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me there, but that is Joe Hart a full 35 yards out from goal, right? My point in comparing was that what is he going to do if he accomplished his goal of rushing out to get the ball, there he tried to chest it ... who knows what he would have done in the chelsea game.
Overall, Hart has been excellent for us over the past couple seasons. But I don't like how frequent the mistakes have become. He's got the most mistakes leading to goals ffs ... more than fucking Al Habsi, who is a disaster. Hart needs to ge his head right and go back to being a top keeper. He can get there, and it's going to take him sitting for awhile, in my opinion.
Don't worry Ted, it'll be good for him. And you don't need to continue with all the hyperbole towards people who think hart should sit, we're not enemies, we all want Hart to be great again. He isn't right now, something needs to change.
I think Hart should be rested for a few games, enough is enough.
But Kolo Toure was diabolical in that instance & looked so indecisive, I don't blame JH for coming out at all, then to compound it, he threw him a dummy.
Hart has been shit this season. But that shouldn't detract from the shit around him. Not one defender has been worth 5 out of 10 on average imo, & Hart has been no worse than them, but his mistakes are more costly because of his position.
They are getting away with it.
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
1. Explain to me how he made the PL team of the year at Birmingham?
2. Explain to me how he had the highest save percentage of any keeper in the PL in 2011/12?
3. I'm not saying he shouldn't be dropped but for fucks sake can people please stop exaggerating and abusing him.
4. I come on here rather than Bluemoon because I'm looking for sensible debate, is that too much to ask for?
5. And his hair is so beautiful (joke!)
Herb wrote:3. Yes, he should be dropped (should have been dropped months ago really and it was only Mancini leaving that stopped him from being replaced) / the stats provided by other posters are fact and not exageration / he's a nice bloke but he deserves abuse on the subject of his goal keeping because it's so bad - I don't think any of the abuse has been personal towards him and I'm constantly complimenting him on his golden locks myself (which are outstanding).
kinkylola wrote:Cocacolajojo wrote:http://mcfc.co.uk/citytv/Match-highlights/2010/September/City-v-Blackburn-extended-highlights
After around 6 minutes, Blackburn score. Similar situation, same keeper.
think that's actually an excellent comparison to what happened v chelsea ... Kolo left it for hart when he called it, and what could hart do with it?
Herb wrote:Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
1. Explain to me how he made the PL team of the year at Birmingham?
2. Explain to me how he had the highest save percentage of any keeper in the PL in 2011/12?
3. I'm not saying he shouldn't be dropped but for fucks sake can people please stop exaggerating and abusing him.
4. I come on here rather than Bluemoon because I'm looking for sensible debate, is that too much to ask for?
5. And his hair is so beautiful (joke!)
1. By being an outstanding shot stopper (he truly was).
2. By being sat behind a great defence resultant in him dealing with a lot of half chances.
3. Yes, he should be dropped (should have been dropped months ago really and it was only Mancini leaving that stopped him from being replaced) / the stats provided by other posters are fact and not exageration / he's a nice bloke but he deserves abuse on the subject of his goal keeping because it's so bad - I don't think any of the abuse has been personal towards him and I'm constantly complimenting him on his golden locks myself (which are outstanding).
4. You'll get sensible debate if you put a sensible point but your love for Joe exceeds any evidence in your eyes - in truth 99.999% of us were ourselves huge fans of Joe's and it's been a long slow and painful recognition of just how shite he's become that has led us, the previously loyal and supportive fans, to this common opinion). It's also the case that having reluctantly accepted that Joe has long since become a pitiful liability there's an element of frustration with those few who are so in love with him that they would rather see us demoted than accept fact . . . and if you think bluemoan's better then hey feel free!
5. He had a couple of good seasons (1 with Brum & 1 with us) and I must agree that his hair is beautiful but please accept that what happended 2 seasons ago and the current state of his folicles doesn't make him gods gift to football (true!).
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