Summer transfer thread

[phips]

Atletico lose Mandzukic and get Jackson Martinez and Luciano Vietto to pair with Griezmann and Torres. not bad.

[blues2win]

Ardo Turan's agent says his client wants to play in the Premier League and that he is talking to three top Premiership Clubs. Release clause said to be 41 million euros.

[Im_Spartacus]

Ardo Turan's agent says his client wants to play in the Premier League and that he is talking to three top Premiership Clubs. Release clause said to be 41 million euros.

Would his release clause come into it?

41m euros for a guy who turns 29 in January is a lot of money, I wonder whether Atletico are helping this story along, as it would be a great deal for them if true.

[blues2win]

Fair point. I was just stating the figure but Atletico might well accept less. His agent stresses three top Premiership Clubs but then he would wouldn't he?

[PrezIke]

Atletico lose Mandzukic and get Jackson Martinez and Luciano Vietto to pair with Griezmann and Torres. not bad.

AC Milan snubbed...

[Im_Spartacus]

Fair point. I was just stating the figure but Atletico might well accept less. His agent stresses three top Premiership Clubs but then he would wouldn't he?

I just wondered, I know he's highly rated and at 28, at the top of his game, but this is where I start to struggle with the logic of football clubs in England.

If you paid 40m for a 28 year old who is a good player, you're gonna realistically get a maximum 4 years service out of him at which point he will have little or no sell on value or go out of contract. Add in a minimum 5m a year wages, and you are talking 60m overall outlay or 12.5m a year.

If you paid 80m for a 22 year old player who is highly likely to be world class in 2 years time, keep him for 6 years and paid him 10m a year, that's 140m and at age 28 he would likely still recoup his transfer fee from a stupid club like City or PSG, so the net cost would simply be 60m wages. or 10m per year.

Which one would you sign? Puts the size of the Pogba transfer fee (and Sterling) into perspective really I suppose.

[DoomMerchant]

Fair point. I was just stating the figure but Atletico might well accept less. His agent stresses three top Premiership Clubs but then he would wouldn't he?

I just wondered, I know he's highly rated and at 28, at the top of his game, but this is where I start to struggle with the logic of football clubs in England.

If you paid 40m for a 28 year old who is a good player, you're gonna realistically get a maximum 4 years service out of him at which point he will have little or no sell on value or go out of contract. Add in a minimum 5m a year wages, and you are talking 60m overall outlay or 12.5m a year.

If you paid 80m for a 22 year old player who is highly likely to be world class in 2 years time, keep him for 6 years and paid him 10m a year, that's 140m and at age 28 he would likely still recoup his transfer fee from a stupid club like City or PSG, so the net cost would simply be 60m wages. or 10m per year.

Which one would you sign? Puts the size of the Pogba transfer fee (and Sterling) into perspective really I suppose.

agreed to a large extent...but the other factor is who plays in the position and is available.

I'm not speaking specifically about Turan but just in general around the factors you'd have to consider when you do the math.

cheers

[Mikhail Chigorin]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33250535

Lol.

they are imho obvs spending the Sterling wad now. Just a matter of days before this one is buttoned up i'd think.

cheers

If that's the case, we ought to revise our offer and put in a bid for £25 million.

[DoomMerchant]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33250535

Lol.

they are imho obvs spending the Sterling wad now. Just a matter of days before this one is buttoned up i'd think.

cheers

If that's the case, we ought to revise our offer and put in a bid for £25 million.

if they're spending it, then it's done. Look, i could be wrong, but it doesn't strike me as a typical American management move from fuckers like those dudes to spend their wedge and "hope" they get the right offer for Sterling.

They're spending some other cunt's money and getting their dicks sucked with any extra...just cuz.

cheers

[iwasthere2012]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33250535

Lol.

they are imho obvs spending the Sterling wad now. Just a matter of days before this one is buttoned up i'd think.

cheers

If that's the case, we ought to revise our offer and put in a bid for £25 million.

if they're spending it, then it's done. Look, i could be wrong, but it doesn't strike me as a typical American management move from fuckers like those dudes to spend their wedge and "hope" they get the right offer for Sterling.

They're spending some other cunt's money and getting their dicks sucked with any extra...just cuz.

cheers

I am by no means ITK. I generally know nothing about whether we will sign so and so or not. I wouldn't have been too bothered about this transfer and didn't really think we would get Pogba.
But lately I've been getting this feeling in my left nut, that we are going to land all three of our main targets, KDB, The Pound and Pogba too.
Now it's nothing more scientific than a tingle in the left nut, but I'm quite optimistic.......(or should I be concerned)

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Fair point. I was just stating the figure but Atletico might well accept less. His agent stresses three top Premiership Clubs but then he would wouldn't he?

I just wondered, I know he's highly rated and at 28, at the top of his game, but this is where I start to struggle with the logic of football clubs in England.

If you paid 40m for a 28 year old who is a good player, you're gonna realistically get a maximum 4 years service out of him at which point he will have little or no sell on value or go out of contract. Add in a minimum 5m a year wages, and you are talking 60m overall outlay or 12.5m a year.

If you paid 80m for a 22 year old player who is highly likely to be world class in 2 years time, keep him for 6 years and paid him 10m a year, that's 140m and at age 28 he would likely still recoup his transfer fee from a stupid club like City or PSG, so the net cost would simply be 60m wages. or 10m per year.

Which one would you sign? Puts the size of the Pogba transfer fee (and Sterling) into perspective really I suppose.

I think the theory is that with the experiences guy you get more guarantee for your money. He is proven quality.
You could buy Sterling for 45m, commit to 10m a year and he doesn't live up to the hype. In return you'd get a poor player, with a massively reduced transfer value who would be difficult to move along because of the wages you committed to. It could be a very expensive mistake.

[Im_Spartacus]

Fair point. I was just stating the figure but Atletico might well accept less. His agent stresses three top Premiership Clubs but then he would wouldn't he?

I just wondered, I know he's highly rated and at 28, at the top of his game, but this is where I start to struggle with the logic of football clubs in England.

If you paid 40m for a 28 year old who is a good player, you're gonna realistically get a maximum 4 years service out of him at which point he will have little or no sell on value or go out of contract. Add in a minimum 5m a year wages, and you are talking 60m overall outlay or 12.5m a year.

If you paid 80m for a 22 year old player who is highly likely to be world class in 2 years time, keep him for 6 years and paid him 10m a year, that's 140m and at age 28 he would likely still recoup his transfer fee from a stupid club like City or PSG, so the net cost would simply be 60m wages. or 10m per year.

Which one would you sign? Puts the size of the Pogba transfer fee (and Sterling) into perspective really I suppose.

I think the theory is that with the experiences guy you get more guarantee for your money. He is proven quality.
You could buy Sterling for 45m, commit to 10m a year and he doesn't live up to the hype. In return you'd get a poor player, with a massively reduced transfer value who would be difficult to move along because of the wages you committed to. It could be a very expensive mistake.

I just threw Sterling in there as an example of where the fee looks big, but in most cases clubs don't spend massive money on kids unless they are fairly sure they are the real deal.

I agree the risk with Sterling at 50m is massive, but if we ended up paying 80m for Pogba, established international, won everything domestically, contributed to his team getting to CL final, even though the fee would make our eyes water, it starts to look a bargain in the long term compared to shelling out 40m for someone like Turan.

[blues2win]

I think Doomie's right. This is the dippers spending the Sterling transfer fee. I'd be very surprised if this one goes long now. We could of course fuck them big time by changing our mind but the Club clearly want him as a young English star with pace and skill. He has already shown his talent clearly in the Premiership and at international level so he's not as big a risk as some people say. I'm looking forward to seeing him in blue.

[Wonderwall]

I think Doomie's right. This is the dippers spending the Sterling transfer fee. I'd be very surprised if this one goes long now. We could of course fuck them big time by changing our mind but the Club clearly want him as a young English star with pace and skill. He has already shown his talent clearly in the Premiership and at international level so he's not as big a risk as some people say. I'm looking forward to seeing him in blue.

Will this do

[blues2win]

Dippers closing on Clyne transfer supposedly. Benteke next presumably. All that lot isn't possible without selling Sterling.

[Hazy2]

Dippers closing on Clyne transfer supposedly. Benteke next presumably. All that lot isn't possible without selling Sterling.

Sterling or Rubbles.

[blues2win]

Douglas Costa to Bayern Mumich for 35 million euros says Rafa Hernandez.

[PeterParker]

Boca announced they snatched Carlos Tevez.

I think he would had still had done some good stuff in Europe, but he always was a bit of a nutter. Hope all works out for our lad. He will be worshiped there, i am sure.

And in other news, looks like Milan are about to sign Witsel.

[DoomMerchant]

Boca announced they snatched Carlos Tevez.

I think he would had still had done some good stuff in Europe, but he always was a bit of a nutter. Hope all works out for our lad. He will be worshiped there, i am sure.

And in other news, looks like Milan are about to sign Witsel.

love Tevez back to Boca....good for him.

cheers

[blues2win]

Marca says Real will go for Otamendi if Ramos goes to the scum. Makes sense.