One cap Whitey wrote:Ireland for me. He went from boo boy to player of the year in such a short space of time.
It's amazing to think that just over 12 months ago there were City fans who thought Ireland would never be good enough!
One cap Whitey wrote:Ireland for me. He went from boo boy to player of the year in such a short space of time.
Steve wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:As many people have City legend SWP as their favourite player as Tevez who bagged winner in last derby...... against us for fucking rags. Mind boggles. It seems that we as supporters are indeed changing.
Got to agree with you there mate. However Tevez did score against palace, and has worked so hard in the four games he has played for us, and he is God. We would never have said anything bad about our Carlos. Ever.
On a more serious note, one thing i'm not sure about is why the signing of Tevez seems to have been applauded more than any of the other signings. I don't think he is the best signing we have made.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Steve wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:As many people have City legend SWP as their favourite player as Tevez who bagged winner in last derby...... against us for fucking rags. Mind boggles. It seems that we as supporters are indeed changing.
Got to agree with you there mate. However Tevez did score against palace, and has worked so hard in the four games he has played for us, and he is God. We would never have said anything bad about our Carlos. Ever.
On a more serious note, one thing i'm not sure about is why the signing of Tevez seems to have been applauded more than any of the other signings. I don't think he is the best signing we have made.
It's because he came from the rags so people will have followed him closely. Tevez is a good quality player but not really superstar quality some make him out to be. He is like really good Darius Vassell or bit better Dirk Kujt (who I rate by the way). But no Messi or Robinho he is not.
Ted Hughes wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Steve wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:As many people have City legend SWP as their favourite player as Tevez who bagged winner in last derby...... against us for fucking rags. Mind boggles. It seems that we as supporters are indeed changing.
Got to agree with you there mate. However Tevez did score against palace, and has worked so hard in the four games he has played for us, and he is God. We would never have said anything bad about our Carlos. Ever.
On a more serious note, one thing i'm not sure about is why the signing of Tevez seems to have been applauded more than any of the other signings. I don't think he is the best signing we have made.
It's because he came from the rags so people will have followed him closely. Tevez is a good quality player but not really superstar quality some make him out to be. He is like really good Darius Vassell or bit better Dirk Kujt (who I rate by the way). But no Messi or Robinho he is not.
Similar qualities to SWP, not as good at running with the ball but cleverer with the final ball.
When comparing SWP 'as one of ours' & Tevez as a rag, even though he never signed for them; I beg to differ.
As someone who was boring everyone to death with the exploits of SWP as a young player, who saw most of his home games as a young player & was delighted when he finally made the first team before sodding off to Chelsea & largely ignoring our fans cheering his name thereafter, I recon he had a lot more to answer than Tevez but seems to have been forgiven by everyone including me.
They are both now City players pure & simple.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Steve wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:As many people have City legend SWP as their favourite player as Tevez who bagged winner in last derby...... against us for fucking rags. Mind boggles. It seems that we as supporters are indeed changing.
Got to agree with you there mate. However Tevez did score against palace, and has worked so hard in the four games he has played for us, and he is God. We would never have said anything bad about our Carlos. Ever.
On a more serious note, one thing i'm not sure about is why the signing of Tevez seems to have been applauded more than any of the other signings. I don't think he is the best signing we have made.
It's because he came from the rags so people will have followed him closely. Tevez is a good quality player but not really superstar quality some make him out to be. He is like really good Darius Vassell or bit better Dirk Kujt (who I rate by the way). But no Messi or Robinho he is not.
Similar qualities to SWP, not as good at running with the ball but cleverer with the final ball.
When comparing SWP 'as one of ours' & Tevez as a rag, even though he never signed for them; I beg to differ.
As someone who was boring everyone to death with the exploits of SWP as a young player, who saw most of his home games as a young player & was delighted when he finally made the first team before sodding off to Chelsea & largely ignoring our fans cheering his name thereafter, I recon he had a lot more to answer than Tevez but seems to have been forgiven by everyone including me.
They are both now City players pure & simple.
I haven't questioned that, have I? I just told what I thought about Tevez pure and simple. Personally I feel Barry, Toure, Adebayor, Robinho and Given signings were much more important looking at the overall picture. Tevez was a good addition but I think we would've done alright without him as well.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Tevez is a good quality player but not really superstar quality some make him out to be. He is like really good Darius Vassell or bit better Dirk Kujt (who I rate by the way). But no Messi or Robinho he is not.
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Tevez is a good quality player but not really superstar quality some make him out to be. He is like really good Darius Vassell or bit better Dirk Kujt (who I rate by the way). But no Messi or Robinho he is not.
You've betrayed quite a big misconception and a serious lack of understanding there NQDP - seen your arse really.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Tevez is a good quality player but not really superstar quality some make him out to be. He is like really good Darius Vassell or bit better Dirk Kujt (who I rate by the way). But no Messi or Robinho he is not.
You've betrayed quite a big misconception and a serious lack of understanding there NQDP - seen your arse really.
Care to explain further?
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Tevez is a good quality player but not really superstar quality some make him out to be. He is like really good Darius Vassell or bit better Dirk Kujt (who I rate by the way). But no Messi or Robinho he is not.
You've betrayed quite a big misconception and a serious lack of understanding there NQDP - seen your arse really.
Care to explain further?
barely. football brain... speed of thought... wavelength... read... guile - all the attributes which mean the players who train with him get so giddy about his ability.
By analogy, Vassell is a Honda Civic being driven by you. Dirk Kuyt is, as far as I can tell, an R-type Civic being driven by me. Tevez is an R-type civic being driven by Jenson Button.
Slim wrote:
I dont understand the analogy, but that was well entertaining.
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:Slim wrote:
I dont understand the analogy, but that was well entertaining.
Tevez obviously lacks certain attributes - notably pace. But his read of the game, his ability to link with/understand top class players prevents any comparison with someone like Vass. Robinho raves about training with Tevez because he knows he'll get the ball he wants/Tevez will make the runs (be they decoy or otherwise) that he expects etc.
The reason Tevez looked so shit at Westham (at least for the first 6 months) is because he was basically playing a different game to everyone else there - too clever for them.
In the analogy, the driver is the football brain, the car is the raw attributes. simple.
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