Come on you Septics

[Bingo Lewis]

I like Americans


except kyle

hes a cunt.

Classic Chopper there.
I've missed this shit.

[Rag_hater]

I dont see why the American football team gets so much shit.
Personally wouldn't upset me if they did well and I dont understand how they can be dissmissed so easily.Didn't they just beat the Euro champs.
And if people think that Spain were not bothered about that match I think they are being a bit deluded.

[DoomMerchant]

I'm looking forward to the USA v Finland potential matchup in SA to really settle this issue once and for all.

cheers

I'm not particularily gutted that we failed to make the competition as you are implying. The minute I saw our group of Germany and Russia with Wales as 4th pick, I knew we stood no chance. That's the way it is in Europe. What I DO find crazy though is someone like Russia having to go to play offs for their spot though. They'd walk your group.

i don't care if yr gutted or not...and contrary to popular belief i didn't create the earth and place Russia in the geographic locale they inhabit so that argument holds no water for me. You could say the same about many teams on the positive and negative. What about North Korea? I think they've qualified. Slam them instead of the US for a minute. Maybe they're stealing Russia's spot.

i just think it's too easy to slam the US team for making it. i appreciate that it's fashionable to do so, and you know that i don't come on here like Captain fuclin America big upping the team...i think they're above average...they play tightly and graft. I don't like their manager much and think they could do a lot better, but hey that's what it is.

what i DO dislike is you putting down their accomplishment. Honestly, if the US played in the EURO groups they'd have stood a reasonable chance of qualifying via a playoff if their group broke right. Look at the group they were in as others pointed out -- the US and Mexico as the only teams of quality, with some average teams left. Couple groups like that in Europe for sure. At this stage with so much on the line most of these matches can find an interesting storyline unless you prepare and come to play your socks off...

cheers

[Slim]

what i DO dislike is you putting down their accomplishment. Honestly, if the US played in the EURO groups they'd have stood a reasonable chance of qualifying via a playoff if their group broke right.

What I do dislike is your failure to understand the point, even when you concede it.

You are right, the US would stand a reasonable chance of qualifying if they were in Europe, they stand NO CHANCE AT ALL of not qualifying in their current group.

[dazby]

You can only beat whoever you are playing. It's not the USA's fault the quality of the group isn't that strong. Some of the Euro groups are a joke too NQDP. Now stop being an arrogant prick and realise that it's a World game and the World Cup is about teams from all over the world, except for Oceania. Unless the kiwis can pull a miracle.

[Florida Blue]

what i DO dislike is you putting down their accomplishment. Honestly, if the US played in the EURO groups they'd have stood a reasonable chance of qualifying via a playoff if their group broke right.

What I do dislike is your failure to understand the point, even when you concede it.

You are right, the US would stand a reasonable chance of qualifying if they were in Europe, they stand NO CHANCE AT ALL of not qualifying in their current group.

It is apparent that you talk a lot of shit, but have probably not seen a single USA qualifier, or at least bothered to stop sticking your nose in the air to allow your eyes to watch. No walkovers there.

[Florida Blue]

I'm looking forward to the USA v Finland potential matchup in SA to really settle this issue once and for all.

cheers

I'm not particularily gutted that we failed to make the competition as you are implying. The minute I saw our group of Germany and Russia with Wales as 4th pick, I knew we stood no chance. That's the way it is in Europe. What I DO find crazy though is someone like Russia having to go to play offs for their spot though. They'd walk your group.

Really?? NQDP?? You bitter sad man ;)

Russia??? Give me a break. They would not walk our group. They would finish in top 3, but not run over all but T&T and Honduras. And don't kind yourself, all those countries are as brutal as any European country to play in. Sounds to me like you are just upset that Europe and South America have dominated footy, and it would be so bad for the USA to finally be a player in this sport. If anything you should want us to thrive so your country can beat us. Oh wait, that can only happen in a friendly as Finland will be looking for other things to do on summer holiday. Hey I hear the Faeroe Islands would be up for a friendly. Or maybe take a crack at the crappy team in Costa Rica. Go play them there and tell me how bad they are.

[DoomMerchant]

what i DO dislike is you putting down their accomplishment. Honestly, if the US played in the EURO groups they'd have stood a reasonable chance of qualifying via a playoff if their group broke right.

What I do dislike is your failure to understand the point, even when you concede it.

You are right, the US would stand a reasonable chance of qualifying if they were in Europe, they stand NO CHANCE AT ALL of not qualifying in their current group.

Ok. thanks for clarifying that. i thought Antti was asking me to apologize for making the US team making the WC at the expense of allegedly better teams in Europe.

My point, again, is that you can't control the groups...and others have already pointed out that a weaker CONCACAF have a lower percentage of teams going through than stronger regions, so there is no guarantee. You have to play the matches and qualify. Surely if the US and Mexico don't go through from CONCACAF it would be a joke, but...wouldnt you say the same for Portugal or Russia in Europe? Teams fuck up. Play the matches. Get the points. Qualify.

[DoomMerchant]

I'm looking forward to the USA v Finland potential matchup in SA to really settle this issue once and for all.

cheers

I'm not particularily gutted that we failed to make the competition as you are implying. The minute I saw our group of Germany and Russia with Wales as 4th pick, I knew we stood no chance. That's the way it is in Europe. What I DO find crazy though is someone like Russia having to go to play offs for their spot though. They'd walk your group.

Really?? NQDP?? You bitter sad man ;)

Russia??? Give me a break. They would not walk our group. They would finish in top 3, but not run over all but T&T and Honduras. And don't kind yourself, all those countries are as brutal as any European country to play in. Sounds to me like you are just upset that Europe and South America have dominated footy, and it would be so bad for the USA to finally be a player in this sport. If anything you should want us to thrive so your country can beat us. Oh wait, that can only happen in a friendly as Finland will be looking for other things to do on summer holiday. Hey I hear the Faeroe Islands would be up for a friendly. Or maybe take a crack at the crappy team in Costa Rica. Go play them there and tell me how bad they are.

to be fair Brian i believe Russia would win this group in CONCACAF on their current form. They'd struggle vs. the US and Mexico somewhat, but i think they'd pull it out simply because of their managerial experience alone to get the setup right and the motivation correct.

Truth be told tho Sven didn't find it so easy in CONCACAF.

[The Man In Blue]

i'm glad the yanks are in - gives us an opportunity to give them a good kicking.

good luck sarrcer fans.

[Florida Blue]

I'm looking forward to the USA v Finland potential matchup in SA to really settle this issue once and for all.

cheers

I'm not particularily gutted that we failed to make the competition as you are implying. The minute I saw our group of Germany and Russia with Wales as 4th pick, I knew we stood no chance. That's the way it is in Europe. What I DO find crazy though is someone like Russia having to go to play offs for their spot though. They'd walk your group.

Really?? NQDP?? You bitter sad man ;)

Russia??? Give me a break. They would not walk our group. They would finish in top 3, but not run over all but T&T and Honduras. And don't kind yourself, all those countries are as brutal as any European country to play in. Sounds to me like you are just upset that Europe and South America have dominated footy, and it would be so bad for the USA to finally be a player in this sport. If anything you should want us to thrive so your country can beat us. Oh wait, that can only happen in a friendly as Finland will be looking for other things to do on summer holiday. Hey I hear the Faeroe Islands would be up for a friendly. Or maybe take a crack at the crappy team in Costa Rica. Go play them there and tell me how bad they are.

to be fair Brian i believe Russia would win this group in CONCACAF on their current form. They'd struggle vs. the US and Mexico somewhat, but i think they'd pull it out simply because of their managerial experience alone to get the setup right and the motivation correct.

Truth be told tho Sven didn't find it so easy in CONCACAF.

I don't disagree they could win the group. But they would not WALK the group as Antii insists.

[DoomMerchant]

i'm glad the yanks are in - gives us an opportunity to give them a good kicking.

good luck sarrcer fans.

i believe if it came to a game of "kicking" you'd likely get a real run for your money. You'd bet better off actually playing football unless you fancy a 1-1 draw with loads of fouls and cards.

BTW for the millionth time "soccer" is your fuclin word. We didn't invent it. We just use it.

cheers

[Dameerto]

BTW for the millionth time "soccer" is your fuclin word. We didn't invent it. We just use it.

cheers

Since you hijacked our other more favoured one...

[Slim]

what i DO dislike is you putting down their accomplishment. Honestly, if the US played in the EURO groups they'd have stood a reasonable chance of qualifying via a playoff if their group broke right.

What I do dislike is your failure to understand the point, even when you concede it.

You are right, the US would stand a reasonable chance of qualifying if they were in Europe, they stand NO CHANCE AT ALL of not qualifying in their current group.

Ok. thanks for clarifying that. i thought Antti was asking me to apologize for making the US team making the WC at the expense of allegedly better teams in Europe.

My point, again, is that you can't control the groups...and others have already pointed out that a weaker CONCACAF have a lower percentage of teams going through than stronger regions, so there is no guarantee. You have to play the matches and qualify. Surely if the US and Mexico don't go through from CONCACAF it would be a joke, but...wouldnt you say the same for Portugal or Russia in Europe? Teams fuck up. Play the matches. Get the points. Qualify.

Even if you fuck up monsterously, you still qualify though and that's the point. We had Ukraine and Croatia in our group, if either of them were in the CONCACAF, they would qualify and in Europe one of them is guaranteed to miss out. Right now you have either Costa Rica or Honduras battling out for who gets the automatic spot and who gets a playoff spot. Honduras? Jesus Christ. I realise you have no say in it, but if you really think that the US has a hard a road as the teams in Europe then, well you are as fucking deluded as your pussy mate from florida there.

[Florida Blue]

what i DO dislike is you putting down their accomplishment. Honestly, if the US played in the EURO groups they'd have stood a reasonable chance of qualifying via a playoff if their group broke right.

What I do dislike is your failure to understand the point, even when you concede it.

You are right, the US would stand a reasonable chance of qualifying if they were in Europe, they stand NO CHANCE AT ALL of not qualifying in their current group.

Ok. thanks for clarifying that. i thought Antti was asking me to apologize for making the US team making the WC at the expense of allegedly better teams in Europe.

My point, again, is that you can't control the groups...and others have already pointed out that a weaker CONCACAF have a lower percentage of teams going through than stronger regions, so there is no guarantee. You have to play the matches and qualify. Surely if the US and Mexico don't go through from CONCACAF it would be a joke, but...wouldnt you say the same for Portugal or Russia in Europe? Teams fuck up. Play the matches. Get the points. Qualify.

Even if you fuck up monsterously, you still qualify though and that's the point. We had Ukraine and Croatia in our group, if either of them were in the CONCACAF, they would qualify and in Europe one of them is guaranteed to miss out. Right now you have either Costa Rica or Honduras battling out for who gets the automatic spot and who gets a playoff spot. Honduras? Jesus Christ. I realise you have no say in it, but if you really think that the US has a hard a road as the teams in Europe then, well you are as fucking deluded as your pussy mate from florida there.

Hey Slim, I will have a civil conversation with you when you pull your arrogant head out of your ass, but for now I will go to your level. Honduras would whip the shit out of Andorra and Kazakhstan (so don't give me any cakewalk scenarios in Europe), and would give any of European team a run for their money at home in that insane weather and that violent atmosphere (and in case your xenophobia has taken over there has been uprisings and violent protest because a fucking coup going on for over a month). But since you are so buried in the "fact" that you are better than anyone, and your opinion is the only one that matters...fuck off.

[Slim]

It is apparent that you talk a lot of shit, but have probably not seen a single USA qualifier, or at least bothered to stop sticking your nose in the air to allow your eyes to watch. No walkovers there.

This is your attempt at civil conversation? If this is how your attempt to succeed looks, then it's no wonder you think the US had to do more than just show up to qualify.

And for stupidity's sake, Hondras aren't in Kazakstan or Andorra's position you retarded cunt, they are in Ukraine's and if you think they would finish above Croatia and Ukraine in our group then you are fucking deluded, stupid and fucktarded. Now go bury your fucking head in the sand and you can come up for air in three months when you want another pop at me for no fucking reason. Now...FUCK OFF.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I'm looking forward to the USA v Finland potential matchup in SA to really settle this issue once and for all.

cheers

I'm not particularily gutted that we failed to make the competition as you are implying. The minute I saw our group of Germany and Russia with Wales as 4th pick, I knew we stood no chance. That's the way it is in Europe. What I DO find crazy though is someone like Russia having to go to play offs for their spot though. They'd walk your group.

Really?? NQDP?? You bitter sad man ;)

Russia??? Give me a break. They would not walk our group. They would finish in top 3, but not run over all but T&T and Honduras. And don't kind yourself, all those countries are as brutal as any European country to play in. Sounds to me like you are just upset that Europe and South America have dominated footy, and it would be so bad for the USA to finally be a player in this sport. If anything you should want us to thrive so your country can beat us. Oh wait, that can only happen in a friendly as Finland will be looking for other things to do on summer holiday. Hey I hear the Faeroe Islands would be up for a friendly. Or maybe take a crack at the crappy team in Costa Rica. Go play them there and tell me how bad they are.

That's the bleeding point! You are no "players" in football. But like I said, I would take two teams from CONCACAF. It's WORLD Cup after all. But when only decent teams in whole region are USA and Mexico with Jamaica having decent side every now and then, it's ridiculous that you have 3,5 spots. There's always some joke country like Trinidad or Honduras sneaking in.

Just look at these nations.

Canada
Mexico
United States
Belize
Costa Rica
El Salvador
Guatemala
Honduras
Nicaragua
Panama
Anguilla
Antigua and Barbuda
Aruba
Bahamas
Barbados
Bermuda
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Cuba
Dominica
Dominican Republic
French Guiana
Grenada
Guadeloupe
Guyana
Haiti
Jamaica
Martinique
Montserrat
Netherlands Antilles
Puerto Rico
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Saint-Martin
Sint Maarten
Suriname
Trinidad and Tobago
Turks and Caicos Islands
U.S. Virgin Islands


Oh, and we played Costa Rica in some silly friendly some years back and stuffed then 4-0. That's how good they were. And yes, both Russia and Germany would WALK the CONCACAF qualifying group. Wales would get through as well and so would probably we.

[DoomMerchant]

It is apparent that you talk a lot of shit, but have probably not seen a single USA qualifier, or at least bothered to stop sticking your nose in the air to allow your eyes to watch. No walkovers there.

This is your attempt at civil conversation? If this is how your attempt to succeed looks, then it's no wonder you think the US had to do more than just show up to qualify.

And for stupidity's sake, Hondras aren't in Kazakstan or Andorra's position you retarded cunt, they are in Ukraine's and if you think they would finish above Croatia and Ukraine in our group then you are fucking deluded, stupid and fucktarded. Now go bury your fucking head in the sand and you can come up for air in three months when you want another pop at me for no fucking reason. Now...FUCK OFF.

i don't think he was attempting a civil conversation. just a guess.

and yr right about Honduras (it's got a 'u' in it btw. no, i mean the letter, not a cunt...) being not as good as Ukraine or Croatia. But it would be interesting to see both of them play a match there. Brian is right in that these little countries with their revolutions, fanatical fans and dodgy pitches are a far cry from European football.

[Slim]

It is apparent that you talk a lot of shit, but have probably not seen a single USA qualifier, or at least bothered to stop sticking your nose in the air to allow your eyes to watch. No walkovers there.

This is your attempt at civil conversation? If this is how your attempt to succeed looks, then it's no wonder you think the US had to do more than just show up to qualify.

And for stupidity's sake, Hondras aren't in Kazakstan or Andorra's position you retarded cunt, they are in Ukraine's and if you think they would finish above Croatia and Ukraine in our group then you are fucking deluded, stupid and fucktarded. Now go bury your fucking head in the sand and you can come up for air in three months when you want another pop at me for no fucking reason. Now...FUCK OFF.

i don't think he was attempting a civil conversation. just a guess.

and yr right about Honduras (it's got a 'u' in it btw. no, i mean the letter, not a cunt...) being not as good as Ukraine or Croatia. But it would be interesting to see both of them play a match there. Brian is right in that these little countries with their revolutions, fanatical fans and dodgy pitches are a far cry from European football.

Yeah, cause those eastern bloc countries are all friendly and sunny and they break into the score from Hair whenever any team comes to visit. Or they spend 90 minutes throwing flares at the opposition keeper.

[DoomMerchant]

It is apparent that you talk a lot of shit, but have probably not seen a single USA qualifier, or at least bothered to stop sticking your nose in the air to allow your eyes to watch. No walkovers there.

This is your attempt at civil conversation? If this is how your attempt to succeed looks, then it's no wonder you think the US had to do more than just show up to qualify.

And for stupidity's sake, Hondras aren't in Kazakstan or Andorra's position you retarded cunt, they are in Ukraine's and if you think they would finish above Croatia and Ukraine in our group then you are fucking deluded, stupid and fucktarded. Now go bury your fucking head in the sand and you can come up for air in three months when you want another pop at me for no fucking reason. Now...FUCK OFF.

i don't think he was attempting a civil conversation. just a guess.

and yr right about Honduras (it's got a 'u' in it btw. no, i mean the letter, not a cunt...) being not as good as Ukraine or Croatia. But it would be interesting to see both of them play a match there. Brian is right in that these little countries with their revolutions, fanatical fans and dodgy pitches are a far cry from European football.

Yeah, cause those eastern bloc countries are all friendly and sunny and they break into the score from Hair whenever any team comes to visit. Or they spend 90 minutes throwing flares at the opposition keeper.

i thought it was Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat.

everyone knows flares are for pussies. Altho largely a village phenomenon, the Hondurans sometimes practice witchcraft and legend has it put a spell on our American keepers to make them all lose their hair. FACT.