OliverHardy wrote:the point is, he is not there to be liked, he is there to do the dirty work mainly. Ok, so some of us hate hime, some dont, BUT, do those who hate him not want him to be around or just think he is doing his job, but hate him anyway?
Feed The Goat wrote:How is he 2 faced? Cos he says to the outside world no his job is safe whilst behind the scenes the Management team are informed they are not doin the job well enough and will be let go.
I would rather the people inside the business tell the press its going well. Nobody seems to tell shop owners that they are 2 faced when telling the press that they are doing well when infact they are just about to post record losses.
People outside of the club have no right to demand to know whats going on in the offices. I have said it before but this is a big business now and cookie read a business like statement to the press in which he answered all their questions but because the facts dont sell papers or make good stories on the news it gets twisted and even now blues are calling him a bumbling idiot. I like Cookie he gave us Welcome to Manchester and no doubt other marketing stuff we are yet to see.
Anyone who thinks you can blag yourself a top job at Nike is a fool, And its a good blag when he is credited for making the Air Jordan Brand so big.
The world of business is a tough place and you cant tell people the whole story all the time as it will hinder the development of certain things so lets get off his back and see wat he does.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I don't HATE Cook. I just don't like him. I generally don't like suits and businessman in football. Football is working mans game for people who love it. That said, the way the game is these days one is needed in every aspiring club.
Like one owner of big factory once said, we got engineers because we need to manufacture stuff, we got lawyers because every now and then we need to go to court and we got people with degree in economics because...... well because everyone else has them as well.
Ted Hughes wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I don't HATE Cook. I just don't like him. I generally don't like suits and businessman in football. Football is working mans game for people who love it. That said, the way the game is these days one is needed in every aspiring club.
Like one owner of big factory once said, we got engineers because we need to manufacture stuff, we got lawyers because every now and then we need to go to court and we got people with degree in economics because...... well because everyone else has them as well.
If we have to put up with him it doesn't mean we have to have him speaking in public though. Someone competent to deal with questions should be doing that.
MARKMAKAVELI wrote:I've been impressed with everything he has done. I'm not that bitter that I hate him for calling us U***d.
I don't know him personally so I can't say what he is like, although thats not stoppin you lot.
He is part of what has made our club seem professional and I'm happy with that contribution.
CTID Hants wrote:Sorry i don't understand how the fook any of this is Cook's fault or why he should be hated?
From what was said in the press conference the decision came from the very top i.e. Sheikh Mansour in conjunction with Khaldoon, the Board as well as Cook.
So had they sacked Hughes and NOT had someone lined up, we would currently be managerless and with NO back room staff whatsoever.
It's beggars belief that Cook is copping the "sneaky and spineless" shit he's getting, a question for you CARL_FEED..........
Would you sack your security team in your casino whilst still trading and then look for new ones, i doubt it.
Initially i was not happy with the decision over hughes (thought he'd got a little longer) especially over the way it was done initially, but i have calmed down a lot since Saturday. Cook stated, their hand was forced (timing wise) because "other sources" leaked that Mancini was to take over.
I have had to sack staff before now ono my governors say so and have someone already lined up to takeover, shit maybe but that's how it goes.
Ted Hughes wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I don't HATE Cook. I just don't like him. I generally don't like suits and businessman in football. Football is working mans game for people who love it. That said, the way the game is these days one is needed in every aspiring club.
Like one owner of big factory once said, we got engineers because we need to manufacture stuff, we got lawyers because every now and then we need to go to court and we got people with degree in economics because...... well because everyone else has them as well.
If we have to put up with him it doesn't mean we have to have him speaking in public though. Someone competent to deal with questions should be doing that.
Ted Hughes wrote:CTID Hants wrote:Sorry i don't understand how the fook any of this is Cook's fault or why he should be hated?
From what was said in the press conference the decision came from the very top i.e. Sheikh Mansour in conjunction with Khaldoon, the Board as well as Cook.
So had they sacked Hughes and NOT had someone lined up, we would currently be managerless and with NO back room staff whatsoever.
It's beggars belief that Cook is copping the "sneaky and spineless" shit he's getting, a question for you CARL_FEED..........
Would you sack your security team in your casino whilst still trading and then look for new ones, i doubt it.
Initially i was not happy with the decision over hughes (thought he'd got a little longer) especially over the way it was done initially, but i have calmed down a lot since Saturday. Cook stated, their hand was forced (timing wise) because "other sources" leaked that Mancini was to take over.
I have had to sack staff before now ono my governors say so and have someone already lined up to takeover, shit maybe but that's how it goes.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:I DONT LIKE HIM.
HE,S A BUMBLING IDIOT WHEN HE IS UNDER PRESSURE.
HE CALLED US U***d.
HE IS SNEAKY AND SPINELESS.
APART FROM THAT HE,S PERFECT.
BTW - IT,S HIS FUCKING JOB TO DEFEND MAN CITY F.C. SO HE GET,S NO CREDITS FROM ME FOR DOING WHAT HE GET,S PAID TO DO.
Kippax wrote:The reason why the press, and others high up in footballing circles, hate Gary Cook is exactly the reason why we as fans should appreciate what Cook has done for the club.
He breaks the mould in that he would rather socialise with the fans of the club than have luncheons with the press, and this worries people not least Chief Execs of other football clubs who still see the fans as customers rather than friends.
I could harp on about all the times that I have met Gary and to a point socialised with him, although I wouldn,t go so far to call him a mate, I would definately call him a friend. Got closer to Gary in one season than I ever did to Alistair Mackintosh in all the time he was there. And with the arrival of the new owners came the breaking down of other barriers. I kind of label Gary as an exciteable school kid, he is as excited by what is happening at our club as we are, and although he may well be a Birmingham City fan his loyalties are without doubt fully behind the club. Some of the stuff he came out with regarding the Tevez poster was pure class.
You've only got to look at his walkabouts with fans during last seasons Uefa cup run, and buying of drinks etc, the handling of the fans during the South Africa Tour, and the 5 Star BBQ that was laid on for the fans in Abu Dhabi. How many other clubs Chief Execs would go to such lengths, and how much did you see written in thed press about it, practically bugger all. It was the same during the Banana craze following the fancy dress day at Stoke, there was bugger all in the press about that. You see the press don't like good things happening with the fans in football. Because they believe they have carte blanche to all things good, and they see themselves as vastly superior to football fans, especially working class football fans.
Personally think that he handled the Kaka and Eto deals reasonably well from what I have gleemed since, it was his way of saying we aren't going to be fucked around and believe me people were trying to fuck us about. OK he's made a couple of gaffs, again it was just his little joke that wasn't quite as appropriate as he thought, but we've all made hundreds of those in our life time. Haven't we?
I would just urge people not to make too hasty a judgement on Gary in light of recent events. I try not to judge people without having met them but I appreciate that in the current climate of open media this is difficult. He really is fully behind the best interests of the club.
Keep the faith Blues.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to one and all.
Kippax.
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