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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby john@staustell » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:55 am

I am quite sure he consoles himself that he is paid vast amounts of money to go through things like yesterday.
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby Original Dub » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:59 am

OliverHardy wrote:the point is, he is not there to be liked, he is there to do the dirty work mainly. Ok, so some of us hate hime, some dont, BUT, do those who hate him not want him to be around or just think he is doing his job, but hate him anyway?


Its a very, very good point you raised mate.

He isn't there to be liked at all, you're right. In fact, most fans think their cheif exec or exec chairman is a pretentious cunt. Most of them are. PR-wise, they're there to write and rhyme off statements and be the face of transfers and European draws.

Fuck the suits, let them be hated by the press. As long as we perform on the pitch, we won't have a problem with Garry Cook because tranfers will be easy and the press will have to dig deeper to get at us.
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby Feed The Goat » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:01 pm

How is he 2 faced? Cos he says to the outside world no his job is safe whilst behind the scenes the Management team are informed they are not doin the job well enough and will be let go.

I would rather the people inside the business tell the press its going well. Nobody seems to tell shop owners that they are 2 faced when telling the press that they are doing well when infact they are just about to post record losses.

People outside of the club have no right to demand to know whats going on in the offices. I have said it before but this is a big business now and cookie read a business like statement to the press in which he answered all their questions but because the facts dont sell papers or make good stories on the news it gets twisted and even now blues are calling him a bumbling idiot. I like Cookie he gave us Welcome to Manchester and no doubt other marketing stuff we are yet to see.

Anyone who thinks you can blag yourself a top job at Nike is a fool, And its a good blag when he is credited for making the Air Jordan Brand so big.

The world of business is a tough place and you cant tell people the whole story all the time as it will hinder the development of certain things so lets get off his back and see wat he does.
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby Original Dub » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:17 pm

Feed The Goat wrote:How is he 2 faced? Cos he says to the outside world no his job is safe whilst behind the scenes the Management team are informed they are not doin the job well enough and will be let go.

I would rather the people inside the business tell the press its going well. Nobody seems to tell shop owners that they are 2 faced when telling the press that they are doing well when infact they are just about to post record losses.

People outside of the club have no right to demand to know whats going on in the offices. I have said it before but this is a big business now and cookie read a business like statement to the press in which he answered all their questions but because the facts dont sell papers or make good stories on the news it gets twisted and even now blues are calling him a bumbling idiot. I like Cookie he gave us Welcome to Manchester and no doubt other marketing stuff we are yet to see.

Anyone who thinks you can blag yourself a top job at Nike is a fool, And its a good blag when he is credited for making the Air Jordan Brand so big.

The world of business is a tough place and you cant tell people the whole story all the time as it will hinder the development of certain things so lets get off his back and see wat he does.


Another great post.

beside Cook's well documented, laughable gaffs, he's done nothing that hasn't been done by all other big wigs at clubs.

Its his job to say one thing and sometimes mean another. Some of the hosilities aimed at Cook from our own fans says more to me that the press are playing a blinder in this whole thing.

Fuck that, he's one of ours and while he is, we should be sticking up for him.
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:18 pm

I don't think the shambles of the sacking & the bullshit he's been feeding the press for the past few months was his fault, he's just doing what he's been told by the owners but his performance in front of the world's media was absolutely pathetic & does nothing but harm to the image of our club worldwide.

I haven't felt so embarrassed since Swales was on tv. If you'r going to be full of shit you should at least be good at presentation. He's fucking useless & should either resign or appoint somebody else to speak in public.
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:45 pm

I don't HATE Cook. I just don't like him. I generally don't like suits and businessman in football. Football is working mans game for people who love it. That said, the way the game is these days one is needed in every aspiring club.

Like one owner of big factory once said, we got engineers because we need to manufacture stuff, we got lawyers because every now and then we need to go to court and we got people with degree in economics because...... well because everyone else has them as well.
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:47 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I don't HATE Cook. I just don't like him. I generally don't like suits and businessman in football. Football is working mans game for people who love it. That said, the way the game is these days one is needed in every aspiring club.

Like one owner of big factory once said, we got engineers because we need to manufacture stuff, we got lawyers because every now and then we need to go to court and we got people with degree in economics because...... well because everyone else has them as well.


If we have to put up with him it doesn't mean we have to have him speaking in public though. Someone competent to deal with questions should be doing that.
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby CTID Hants » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:48 pm

Sorry i don't understand how the fook any of this is Cook's fault or why he should be hated?

From what was said in the press conference the decision came from the very top i.e. Sheikh Mansour in conjunction with Khaldoon, the Board as well as Cook.

So had they sacked Hughes and NOT had someone lined up, we would currently be managerless and with NO back room staff whatsoever.

It's beggars belief that Cook is copping the "sneaky and spineless" shit he's getting, a question for you CARL_FEED..........

Would you sack your security team in your casino whilst still trading and then look for new ones, i doubt it.

Initially i was not happy with the decision over hughes (thought he'd got a little longer) especially over the way it was done initially, but i have calmed down a lot since Saturday. Cook stated, their hand was forced (timing wise) because "other sources" leaked that Mancini was to take over.

I have had to sack staff before now ono my governors say so and have someone already lined up to takeover, shit maybe but that's how it goes.
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:50 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I don't HATE Cook. I just don't like him. I generally don't like suits and businessman in football. Football is working mans game for people who love it. That said, the way the game is these days one is needed in every aspiring club.

Like one owner of big factory once said, we got engineers because we need to manufacture stuff, we got lawyers because every now and then we need to go to court and we got people with degree in economics because...... well because everyone else has them as well.


If we have to put up with him it doesn't mean we have to have him speaking in public though. Someone competent to deal with questions should be doing that.


I fully agree with that.
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby carolina-blue » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:52 pm

MARKMAKAVELI wrote:I've been impressed with everything he has done. I'm not that bitter that I hate him for calling us U***d.

I don't know him personally so I can't say what he is like, although thats not stoppin you lot.

He is part of what has made our club seem professional and I'm happy with that contribution.


Good post Mark , I've always thought he was one of our better "signings" and still think so The way he welcomed Tevez was spot on for me .
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:52 pm

CTID Hants wrote:Sorry i don't understand how the fook any of this is Cook's fault or why he should be hated?

From what was said in the press conference the decision came from the very top i.e. Sheikh Mansour in conjunction with Khaldoon, the Board as well as Cook.

So had they sacked Hughes and NOT had someone lined up, we would currently be managerless and with NO back room staff whatsoever.

It's beggars belief that Cook is copping the "sneaky and spineless" shit he's getting, a question for you CARL_FEED..........

Would you sack your security team in your casino whilst still trading and then look for new ones, i doubt it.

Initially i was not happy with the decision over hughes (thought he'd got a little longer) especially over the way it was done initially, but i have calmed down a lot since Saturday. Cook stated, their hand was forced (timing wise) because "other sources" leaked that Mancini was to take over.

I have had to sack staff before now ono my governors say so and have someone already lined up to takeover, shit maybe but that's how it goes.


He presented his answers so badly that most of the world's media has completely missed what he said. It was a pathetic press conference & for the money he's being paid, it should be immaculate. Mancini wiped the floor with him for quality in front of the cameras & barely speaks English!
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby CTID Hants » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:57 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I don't HATE Cook. I just don't like him. I generally don't like suits and businessman in football. Football is working mans game for people who love it. That said, the way the game is these days one is needed in every aspiring club.

Like one owner of big factory once said, we got engineers because we need to manufacture stuff, we got lawyers because every now and then we need to go to court and we got people with degree in economics because...... well because everyone else has them as well.


If we have to put up with him it doesn't mean we have to have him speaking in public though. Someone competent to deal with questions should be doing that.


Jesus, get off his fooking case.............. Perhaps he was a little ruffled because the press hounds were hell bent on getting a miss quote out of him to make the whole thing bigger than it actually is.

What do you for a living, do you ever have to get up in front crowds of people and make statements?

There was enough information in the statement to satisfy most IMO and the whole point of the pres conference was to unveil Mancini, Cook made his statement whilst being interrupted by hacks and just wnted to move on to Mancini.
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby Wonderwall » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:58 pm

what is cooks role? I dont mean his job title. What does he actually do on a daily basis when he is not looking like a fool in high profile situations?
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby CTID Hants » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:06 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:Sorry i don't understand how the fook any of this is Cook's fault or why he should be hated?

From what was said in the press conference the decision came from the very top i.e. Sheikh Mansour in conjunction with Khaldoon, the Board as well as Cook.

So had they sacked Hughes and NOT had someone lined up, we would currently be managerless and with NO back room staff whatsoever.

It's beggars belief that Cook is copping the "sneaky and spineless" shit he's getting, a question for you CARL_FEED..........

Would you sack your security team in your casino whilst still trading and then look for new ones, i doubt it.

Initially i was not happy with the decision over hughes (thought he'd got a little longer) especially over the way it was done initially, but i have calmed down a lot since Saturday. Cook stated, their hand was forced (timing wise) because "other sources" leaked that Mancini was to take over.

I have had to sack staff before now ono my governors say so and have someone already lined up to takeover, shit maybe but that's how it goes.


He presented his answers so badly that most of the world's media has completely missed what he said. It was a pathetic press conference & for the money he's being paid, it should be immaculate. Mancini wiped the floor with him for quality in front of the cameras & barely speaks English![/quote]


Perhaps that's because the press had their own agenda (surprise, Surprise), i heard it perfectly. Cook is paid shit loads to run the club, a fraction of that is press conferences. What i saw was a new charismatic Italian (that doesn't guarantee he's gonna be a nailed on brilliant manager) and a business man fed up with being aksed the same shit repeatedly by what i consider to be the scurge of the earth
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby Kippax » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:09 pm

The reason why the press, and others high up in footballing circles, hate Gary Cook is exactly the reason why we as fans should appreciate what Cook has done for the club.

He breaks the mould in that he would rather socialise with the fans of the club than have luncheons with the press, and this worries people not least Chief Execs of other football clubs who still see the fans as customers rather than friends.

I could harp on about all the times that I have met Gary and to a point socialised with him, although I wouldn,t go so far to call him a mate, I would definately call him a friend. Got closer to Gary in one season than I ever did to Alistair Mackintosh in all the time he was there. And with the arrival of the new owners came the breaking down of other barriers. I kind of label Gary as an exciteable school kid, he is as excited by what is happening at our club as we are, and although he may well be a Birmingham City fan his loyalties are without doubt fully behind the club. Some of the stuff he came out with regarding the Tevez poster was pure class.

You've only got to look at his walkabouts with fans during last seasons Uefa cup run, and buying of drinks etc, the handling of the fans during the South Africa Tour, and the 5 Star BBQ that was laid on for the fans in Abu Dhabi. How many other clubs Chief Execs would go to such lengths, and how much did you see written in thed press about it, practically bugger all. It was the same during the Banana craze following the fancy dress day at Stoke, there was bugger all in the press about that. You see the press don't like good things happening with the fans in football. Because they believe they have carte blanche to all things good, and they see themselves as vastly superior to football fans, especially working class football fans.

Personally think that he handled the Kaka and Eto deals reasonably well from what I have gleemed since, it was his way of saying we aren't going to be fucked around and believe me people were trying to fuck us about. OK he's made a couple of gaffs, again it was just his little joke that wasn't quite as appropriate as he thought, but we've all made hundreds of those in our life time. Haven't we?

I would just urge people not to make too hasty a judgement on Gary in light of recent events. I try not to judge people without having met them but I appreciate that in the current climate of open media this is difficult. He really is fully behind the best interests of the club.

Keep the faith Blues.

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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby OliverHardy » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:18 pm

cant see what he could have done any differnet yesterday. The press had one intention and one intention only, and that was to try and prove what they had already ran as their headlines. Anything Gary or Roberto said was sneared at, Cook chose at first not to answer questions simply because he knew that his answers would be twisted to their liking. I dont think anyone could have dealt with the situation any better, the only thing he could have done was shut up shop and drag Roberto back through the door and refuse to be involved in the circus the press were trying to create. Questions,like "Did you do background checks on the types of people you would be working for?" and "so you don't care who you work for?" were nothing short of slanderous slurs towards the owners.
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby mcfc1632 » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:19 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:I DONT LIKE HIM.
HE,S A BUMBLING IDIOT WHEN HE IS UNDER PRESSURE.
HE CALLED US U***d.
HE IS SNEAKY AND SPINELESS.
APART FROM THAT HE,S PERFECT.

BTW - IT,S HIS FUCKING JOB TO DEFEND MAN CITY F.C. SO HE GET,S NO CREDITS FROM ME FOR DOING WHAT HE GET,S PAID TO DO.



HE HAS CLINCHED A NUMBER OF MAJOR BUSINESS DEALS
HE HAS MADE MANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CITY BUSINESS ORGANISATION
HE HAD THE BALLS TO FACE OFF AGAINST MILAN WHEN THEY WERE DEMEANING US AND LYING
ETC ETC

SO- HE IS FUCKING REALLY REALLY ANGRY WITH A BUNCH OF 2-FACED LYING FUCKING JOURNOS AND NOT WILLING TO PLAY THEIR GAME - NO FUCKING CITY FAN SHOULD BE BOTHERED BY THAT - THEY SHOULD SUPPORT HIM


BTW - IT,S OUR FUCKING JOB TO DEFEND MAN CITY F.C. SO A LOT ON THIS SITE GET NO CREDITS FROM ME FOR DOING WHAT DECENT FANS SHOULD DO BY NATURE AND DO DETERMINEDLY - CERTAINLY SUPPORTING OUR PERSONNEL AGAINST THOSE FUCKING SICK FUCKING JOURNOS

do not just mean you - in fact less you than a number of other posters - but we seem a bit like a pack of jackals the way we have this need to drag the wounded down - when they are own we should be protective....

We just need a top top press officer
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Re: Why the Cook hatred?

Postby Dronny » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:23 pm

Kippax wrote:The reason why the press, and others high up in footballing circles, hate Gary Cook is exactly the reason why we as fans should appreciate what Cook has done for the club.

He breaks the mould in that he would rather socialise with the fans of the club than have luncheons with the press, and this worries people not least Chief Execs of other football clubs who still see the fans as customers rather than friends.

I could harp on about all the times that I have met Gary and to a point socialised with him, although I wouldn,t go so far to call him a mate, I would definately call him a friend. Got closer to Gary in one season than I ever did to Alistair Mackintosh in all the time he was there. And with the arrival of the new owners came the breaking down of other barriers. I kind of label Gary as an exciteable school kid, he is as excited by what is happening at our club as we are, and although he may well be a Birmingham City fan his loyalties are without doubt fully behind the club. Some of the stuff he came out with regarding the Tevez poster was pure class.

You've only got to look at his walkabouts with fans during last seasons Uefa cup run, and buying of drinks etc, the handling of the fans during the South Africa Tour, and the 5 Star BBQ that was laid on for the fans in Abu Dhabi. How many other clubs Chief Execs would go to such lengths, and how much did you see written in thed press about it, practically bugger all. It was the same during the Banana craze following the fancy dress day at Stoke, there was bugger all in the press about that. You see the press don't like good things happening with the fans in football. Because they believe they have carte blanche to all things good, and they see themselves as vastly superior to football fans, especially working class football fans.

Personally think that he handled the Kaka and Eto deals reasonably well from what I have gleemed since, it was his way of saying we aren't going to be fucked around and believe me people were trying to fuck us about. OK he's made a couple of gaffs, again it was just his little joke that wasn't quite as appropriate as he thought, but we've all made hundreds of those in our life time. Haven't we?

I would just urge people not to make too hasty a judgement on Gary in light of recent events. I try not to judge people without having met them but I appreciate that in the current climate of open media this is difficult. He really is fully behind the best interests of the club.

Keep the faith Blues.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to one and all.

Kippax.

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I've met him once and under horrible circumstances ie. his gaff at Uwe's night and he seemed dead genuine to me. I agree with what you have to say Kippax and as you have met him more times than most on here (if not the most) then I'll take your views with a little more salt than some who have made their minds up on seeing him on tv.

We've only just had the most devisive time I've known as a Blue with Hughes, ffs we don't need Hughes 2 with Cook.
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Re: Garry Cook [merged]

Postby MARKMAKAVELI » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:38 pm

Kippax comes along, states his opinion having actually spoke with the guy on numerous occassions and guess what...

It's fuckin ignored because people still wanna carry on their rant and push forward their agenda of disliking Cook.

This place is infuriating at times. Thanks for trying Kippax.
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Re: Garry Cook [merged]

Postby simon12 » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:42 pm

I think he`s doing a great job and we should be happy to have him. I wouldn`t say he was flustered yesterday but exhasibated as he thought all the journos yesterday were cocks and wanted to say it but couldn`t which is why he made a cards on the table speach halfway thru the questions. He was there to present Mancio but cos journos are generally cocks they continued the MH avenue.
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