Mancini vs Mark Hughes..Initial comparisons

[Original Dub]

I'm just glad Shawzy and others are now starting to see the light. It's quite clear that Hughes was a disgrace tactically. I also think he lacks motivation. Good riddance.

Well I was very happy with the first two games this season. And I'm very happy with Mancini's first two games. Tactics were spot on for all four games.

Lets just wait until its safe to say that Mancini's style and tactics have been stamped on the team before we start sucking each other's cocks, eh Edge?

Because if my memory serves me right, Pearce's tactics and the team's performances were outstanding for his first 8 games. To say Keegan's tactics were a disgrace in comparisson to Pearce would be quite wrong... how do we know this? Because time told us.

Mancini's first two games have impressed me, but new manager syndrome can be extremely powerful and I know better than to call a previous manager's tactics a disgrace from previous experience.

Trust me, this guy is light years ahead of Hughes.

If not, you can pin my comments up by a mast and use them as a stick to verbally beat me with.

I think there's a good chance you could be right and no offence, but you don't know Mancini and there's no way you watched his career as a manager closely, so instead of trusting you, I'll wait and see... definitely more than two games!!

[edge275]

I'm just glad Shawzy and others are now starting to see the light. It's quite clear that Hughes was a disgrace tactically. I also think he lacks motivation. Good riddance.

Well I was very happy with the first two games this season. And I'm very happy with Mancini's first two games. Tactics were spot on for all four games.

Lets just wait until its safe to say that Mancini's style and tactics have been stamped on the team before we start sucking each other's cocks, eh Edge?

Because if my memory serves me right, Pearce's tactics and the team's performances were outstanding for his first 8 games. To say Keegan's tactics were a disgrace in comparisson to Pearce would be quite wrong... how do we know this? Because time told us.

Mancini's first two games have impressed me, but new manager syndrome can be extremely powerful and I know better than to call a previous manager's tactics a disgrace from previous experience.

Trust me, this guy is light years ahead of Hughes.

If not, you can pin my comments up by a mast and use them as a stick to verbally beat me with.

I think there's a good chance you could be right and no offence, but you don't know Mancini and there's no way you watched his career as a manager closely, so instead of trusting you, I'll wait and see... definitely more than two games!!

Not extremely closely, but I knew a fair bit. However I've been researching him more and more since his appointment and I'm convinced he's the right man.

[Original Dub]

I'm just glad Shawzy and others are now starting to see the light. It's quite clear that Hughes was a disgrace tactically. I also think he lacks motivation. Good riddance.

Well I was very happy with the first two games this season. And I'm very happy with Mancini's first two games. Tactics were spot on for all four games.

Lets just wait until its safe to say that Mancini's style and tactics have been stamped on the team before we start sucking each other's cocks, eh Edge?

Because if my memory serves me right, Pearce's tactics and the team's performances were outstanding for his first 8 games. To say Keegan's tactics were a disgrace in comparisson to Pearce would be quite wrong... how do we know this? Because time told us.

Mancini's first two games have impressed me, but new manager syndrome can be extremely powerful and I know better than to call a previous manager's tactics a disgrace from previous experience.

Trust me, this guy is light years ahead of Hughes.

If not, you can pin my comments up by a mast and use them as a stick to verbally beat me with.

I think there's a good chance you could be right and no offence, but you don't know Mancini and there's no way you watched his career as a manager closely, so instead of trusting you, I'll wait and see... definitely more than two games!!

Not extremely closely, but I knew a fair bit. However I've been researching him more and more since his appointment and I'm convinced he's the right man.

Excellent, well that's that then.

[CityFanFromRome]

I'm sure defending like complete numpties wasn't a deliberate tactic either but hopefully execution will be similarly improved when we use a long pass thereby eliminating the complaints? Where the tactics may differ is to use long passing much more selectively rather than as the automatic reflex to every pressure situation.

That's exactly what I was talking about in my previous posts.

[Ted Hughes]

I'm sure defending like complete numpties wasn't a deliberate tactic either but hopefully execution will be similarly improved when we use a long pass thereby eliminating the complaints? Where the tactics may differ is to use long passing much more selectively rather than as the automatic reflex to every pressure situation.

That's exactly what I was talking about in my previous posts.

Some quality precicion long passing today.

[Wonderwall]

I'm just glad Shawzy and others are now starting to see the light. It's quite clear that Hughes was a disgrace tactically. I also think he lacks motivation. Good riddance.

Well I was very happy with the first two games this season. And I'm very happy with Mancini's first two games. Tactics were spot on for all four games.

Lets just wait until its safe to say that Mancini's style and tactics have been stamped on the team before we start sucking each other's cocks, eh Edge?

Because if my memory serves me right, Pearce's tactics and the team's performances were outstanding for his first 8 games. To say Keegan's tactics were a disgrace in comparisson to Pearce would be quite wrong... how do we know this? Because time told us.

Mancini's first two games have impressed me, but new manager syndrome can be extremely powerful and I know better than to call a previous manager's tactics a disgrace from previous experience.

Trust me, this guy is light years ahead of Hughes.

If not, you can pin my comments up by a mast and use them as a stick to verbally beat me with.

Where's that MAST Edge?

[Beefymcfc]

I'm just glad Shawzy and others are now starting to see the light. It's quite clear that Hughes was a disgrace tactically. I also think he lacks motivation. Good riddance.

Well I was very happy with the first two games this season. And I'm very happy with Mancini's first two games. Tactics were spot on for all four games.

Lets just wait until its safe to say that Mancini's style and tactics have been stamped on the team before we start sucking each other's cocks, eh Edge?

Because if my memory serves me right, Pearce's tactics and the team's performances were outstanding for his first 8 games. To say Keegan's tactics were a disgrace in comparisson to Pearce would be quite wrong... how do we know this? Because time told us.

Mancini's first two games have impressed me, but new manager syndrome can be extremely powerful and I know better than to call a previous manager's tactics a disgrace from previous experience.

Trust me, this guy is light years ahead of Hughes.

If not, you can pin my comments up by a mast and use them as a stick to verbally beat me with.

Where's that MAST Edge?

It'd be better asking the MAST where Edge is?

[Dronny]

I'm just glad Shawzy and others are now starting to see the light. It's quite clear that Hughes was a disgrace tactically. I also think he lacks motivation. Good riddance.

Well I was very happy with the first two games this season. And I'm very happy with Mancini's first two games. Tactics were spot on for all four games.

Lets just wait until its safe to say that Mancini's style and tactics have been stamped on the team before we start sucking each other's cocks, eh Edge?

Because if my memory serves me right, Pearce's tactics and the team's performances were outstanding for his first 8 games. To say Keegan's tactics were a disgrace in comparisson to Pearce would be quite wrong... how do we know this? Because time told us.

Mancini's first two games have impressed me, but new manager syndrome can be extremely powerful and I know better than to call a previous manager's tactics a disgrace from previous experience.

Trust me, this guy is light years ahead of Hughes.

If not, you can pin my comments up by a mast and use them as a stick to verbally beat me with.

Where's that MAST Edge?

It'd be better asking the MAST where Edge is?

LOL, probably been too busy blowing Mancio to post ;-)

[Original Dub]

Well it is of course too early to judge and make comparisons but so far the only good of Hughes' reign has been his ability on the market (although, if Lescott doesn't perform when he comes back from injury, the high price paid for him will look as a waste), while tactically I have seen much better in two games from Mancini than in the whole Hughes era regarding the ability to adjust the team tactics to the opposition, which often marks the difference between a win and a draw (or a loss).

Was it the last two games you're talking about???

Anyway, like has been mentioned, Hughes is in the past. It was a mistake to sack him IMO and sacking Mancini right now would be no more clever, but it has to change, because what's good for the goose has to be good for the gander and we're worse off so far this season than we were this time last season, so the "trajectory" ain't looking too hot.

[bluej]

Well it is of course too early to judge and make comparisons but so far the only good of Hughes' reign has been his ability on the market (although, if Lescott doesn't perform when he comes back from injury, the high price paid for him will look as a waste), while tactically I have seen much better in two games from Mancini than in the whole Hughes era regarding the ability to adjust the team tactics to the opposition, which often marks the difference between a win and a draw (or a loss).

Was it the last two games you're talking about???

That post was from January so I'm going to presume he wasn't.

[the_georgian_genius]

we're worse off so far this season than we were this time last season, so the "trajectory" ain't looking too hot.

No we aren't.

2009-2009 after 10 games - 4th
2010-2011 after 10 games - 4th

[1950]

2009-2010 after 10 games - 19 points
2010-2011 after 10 games - 17 points

[the_georgian_genius]

2009-2010 after 10 games - 19 points
2010-2011 after 10 games - 17 points

Real Madrid could win the league this season with less points than they got last season. Which was the better season?

When you compare seasons, you compare posistions not points.

[Slim]

I'm sure defending like complete numpties wasn't a deliberate tactic either but hopefully execution will be similarly improved when we use a long pass thereby eliminating the complaints? Where the tactics may differ is to use long passing much more selectively rather than as the automatic reflex to every pressure situation.

Ah, so you do agree. Grand.

Half agree.

I'll shake on that ;)

Put it away Ronan, who do you think you are, Bingo?

[colonel_muck]

better to watch under hughes, if we're gonna underacheive we might as well be entertaining.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

better to watch under hughes, if we're gonna underacheive we might as well be entertaining.

So you think being in top 4 after 10 games including 4 against 5 of the best teams is underachieving?

[Buffalo Soldier]

better to watch under hughes, if we're gonna underacheive we might as well be entertaining.

So you think being in top 4 after 10 games including 4 against 5 of the best teams is underachieving?

Being 2 points worse off than this time last year and out of the Carling Cup after our first game after having spent another £150m over the summer is currently underachieving.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

better to watch under hughes, if we're gonna underacheive we might as well be entertaining.

So you think being in top 4 after 10 games including 4 against 5 of the best teams is underachieving?

Being 2 points worse off than this time last year and out of the Carling Cup after our first game after having spent another £150m over the summer is currently underachieving.

It all comes down to what your expectations for the season are though, right? I expect us to break into top 4 and get at least one good cup run. We are doing well in UEFA Cup and are currently on course to finish top 4 so personally I see us being on route to reaching the targets. Then again, there are people who expect us to win title and maybe double or even treble. We are nowhere near reaching those targets.

The fact that these threads are being brought up and that there are topics dedicated to comparing our manager to Fulham manager goes to show that all the arguments about "Hughes lovers" were spot on by the way. There are clearly people who loved that rag dearly.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

I certainly didn't 'love' Hughes. I didn't want him sacked though. But that's what happened so we live with it. I also appreciate the point that comparisons are pointless in many ways.
However, the comparison is interesting if you use the point at which Hughes ran out of time as the threshold of tolerance for our owners. It maybe that they use different factors with Mancini, but on results alone Bobby is walking a fine line.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

You can try to make early(ish) comparisons but they can be skewed with all sorts of statistical type rubbish. We are doing well in Europe, well maybe but we are not out of the league part yet. We have played 4 of the major teams in the prem already ( Liverpool really!) but they have all been at home.

Let's just leave it a while longer , at least till after Christmas , before judging.It could all pick up in the next 3 games as we secure qualification in Europe , beat WBA and the Scum or we could get poor results in all 3 games and the picture is 100% different.