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Re: Gary Cook

Postby paulcity1975 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:26 am

GARY COCK keep your mouth shut you make us look a laughing stock! start bragging when silverware starts arriving you moron!!!
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Re: Gary Cook

Postby Mr Miyagi » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:12 pm

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Alex Sapphire wrote:cook is out of his depth


Yep. And from what I've heard Khaldoon has realised this and considering letting him go in the summer.

Flippin hell mate, you got your feet under the table or summat?


Not feet under the table (I wish) just one of those rumours from a "source" that has been gathering pace long before the new gaff about the carling cup.
The Guardian has published a story today about Cook under threat. All I will say is they have been slow to go to press with that one. The unhappines behind the scenes has been there a while.
The rumour about Kenyon being approached has also been mentioned to me a few weeks ago.... Khaldoon wants him I believe.
Remember Cook was Thaksin's appointment, just like Hughes was.
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Re: Gary Cook

Postby lets all have a disco » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:14 pm

Mr Miyagi wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Mr Miyagi wrote:
Alex Sapphire wrote:cook is out of his depth


Yep. And from what I've heard Khaldoon has realised this and considering letting him go in the summer.

Flippin hell mate, you got your feet under the table or summat?


Not feet under the table (I wish) just one of those rumours from a "source" that has been gathering pace long before the new gaff about the carling cup.
The Guardian has published a story today about Cook under threat. All I will say is they have been slow to go to press with that one. The unhappines behind the scenes has been there a while.
The rumour about Kenyon being approached has also been mentioned to me a few weeks ago.... Khaldoon wants him I believe.
Remember Cook was Thaksin's appointment, just like Hughes was.



Whoop whoop uber Rag Kenyon.

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Re: Gary Cook

Postby symiblue » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:29 pm

If Kenyon is appointed just watch your pockets - great background in robbing fans blind. Ticket prices will be on a steep upwards trajectory!
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Re: Gary Cook

Postby mcfc1632 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:29 pm

Kenyon - just think mancityfans members - FUCKING KENYON - just contemplate that and you will probably start a Gary is our hero campaign - careful what you wish for
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Re: Gary Cook

Postby john68 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:59 am

Maybe I should post that....maybe just maybe...with a little luck...and if we could possibly score a goal on Sunday...we might, if it isn't too ambitious to say so...get a little bit...(but not too much)...more than a draw against Pompey...but then again..we might not...infact we might lose instead.

FUCK OFF YER FRIGHTENED BUNCH OF WUZZIES....WHAT THE FUCK YOU AFRAID OF?

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I am not about to make any apology for anyone who wants to shout about my club...If anyone wants to tell the World that this club is fucking great and is gonna dominate the World of football from next week till the end of time...WELL DONE

YOU BUNCH OF COWARDS...(WHAT WILL THE NEIGHBOURS SAY?) CAN CRAWL BACK IN YER WOODWORK AND APOLOGISE FOR BREATHING.

The rags have taken the piss out of you for failing for fucking years...So what if the take the piss out of you for wanting to be great.
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Re: Gary Cook

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:47 am

mcfc1632 wrote:
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Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:EVERY FUCKING TIME someone, anyone, from the Club comes with these retarded "we are going to be MEGA in future" comments we end up losing the next fucking game. Without an exception. The writing was on the wall.

I'd prefer EVERYONE to just SHUT THE FUCK UP and bring cup of some sort home. THEN you can start mouthing off.


100% agree. same a few seasons back under Pearce, we'd win a game then people started talking about Europe and straight after we'd lose to some fucking shite relegation club. Wish everyone involved with the club would just shut the fuck up till we've actually won something!



...that approach only works if we are happy to stay for ever more a team of the stature we were under Pearce

All about opinions - everyone is entitled to their opinion - I just think people on this thread are still just 'venting' being pissed off about Wednesday - If people want to lay blame for losing the semi-final - look into the tactics of the 1st leg - or just put it down to coming out on the wrong side of a good match

How is the football Cook's fault - if Mancini arrives in the USA for a pre-season tour and there is no visibility of our club - no warming up of the media etc - would you blame Mancini - of course not.

People just want to attack someone after Wednesday and Cook seems the latest target - easy target and I guess it makes people feel better

In my opinion, I think we need to separate on the field activities - Mancini's responsibilities - from promotion of the club and the transformation of some medium size club to the persona of a massive club - which in fact we have never been in the context of the modern game - our history in the 60's is about as relevant as the past histories of Bolton, Preston, Burnley etc

Do people really think that the most effective way to promote and grow our club - grow revenues / achieve profitability etc - against a plan of a few years only is to just sit on our hands until we have won 3 trophies..

The reality is that Cook has been very successful in all the aspects in which he should be measured - Turnover, profitability, business funnel and marketing - the club is talked about all the time now - the visibility on television is increasing all the time - yes the rag infested press still try to drag us down - but even some of them are changing their tune and trying to act like they always thought we would make it

These aspects are Cooks responsibility - so well done him

We just need Hughes before and Mancini now to do their bit by achieving a minimum level on the pitch - given the investment and support - again something Cook has been instrumental in - that should not be too much to ask for

People should vent about Wednesday all they like - but try the scum players, the timid ref, the CITY players or the manager(s) - why the head of business development??


Well personally I feel that is wrong approach even if the aim is to gather global following. I don't see how bragging and telling everyone how massive we are going to be is going to create interest on wider public? How about trying little bit humbler approach. That might work even better. "Yes, the club is in fantastic financial footing but we are trying to build long term here and take one step at a time". Or something like that.

I honestly believe that's what people want to hear rather than constantly sticking two fingers up to everyone and repeating "we are mega super and we are going to be toppest of top teams in Milky Way or probably in whole universe". That should be the AIM but it doesn't have to repeated constantly. First and foremost we need to let our football do the talking.
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Re: Gary Cook

Postby eastlandsblue » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:19 am

I agree with what Cookie is doing. If it puts more presure on Taggert and the rest GOOD.
Why should he sit back, when he's expected to promote the club across continents.

All this press he's getting, might sound bad, because they would like US to think that way, But its only bad if it does'nt work in our favour.

Weds result wasnt because he said we were already at wembley, its because they were better on the night. His words didnt inspire U****d to play better, Taggerts did. He probably told them this was their biggest game since the CL final, and they had to win it for the fans. Personally Im convinced had the legs been reversed we'd have beaten them easily with our fans behind us.

Cook should be left to do his job and carry on doing what he knows best, winding up the fulking press and Taggert
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Re: Gary Cook

Postby Wooders » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:34 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
mcfc1632 wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:EVERY FUCKING TIME someone, anyone, from the Club comes with these retarded "we are going to be MEGA in future" comments we end up losing the next fucking game. Without an exception. The writing was on the wall.

I'd prefer EVERYONE to just SHUT THE FUCK UP and bring cup of some sort home. THEN you can start mouthing off.


100% agree. same a few seasons back under Pearce, we'd win a game then people started talking about Europe and straight after we'd lose to some fucking shite relegation club. Wish everyone involved with the club would just shut the fuck up till we've actually won something!



...that approach only works if we are happy to stay for ever more a team of the stature we were under Pearce

All about opinions - everyone is entitled to their opinion - I just think people on this thread are still just 'venting' being pissed off about Wednesday - If people want to lay blame for losing the semi-final - look into the tactics of the 1st leg - or just put it down to coming out on the wrong side of a good match

How is the football Cook's fault - if Mancini arrives in the USA for a pre-season tour and there is no visibility of our club - no warming up of the media etc - would you blame Mancini - of course not.

People just want to attack someone after Wednesday and Cook seems the latest target - easy target and I guess it makes people feel better

In my opinion, I think we need to separate on the field activities - Mancini's responsibilities - from promotion of the club and the transformation of some medium size club to the persona of a massive club - which in fact we have never been in the context of the modern game - our history in the 60's is about as relevant as the past histories of Bolton, Preston, Burnley etc

Do people really think that the most effective way to promote and grow our club - grow revenues / achieve profitability etc - against a plan of a few years only is to just sit on our hands until we have won 3 trophies..

The reality is that Cook has been very successful in all the aspects in which he should be measured - Turnover, profitability, business funnel and marketing - the club is talked about all the time now - the visibility on television is increasing all the time - yes the rag infested press still try to drag us down - but even some of them are changing their tune and trying to act like they always thought we would make it

These aspects are Cooks responsibility - so well done him

We just need Hughes before and Mancini now to do their bit by achieving a minimum level on the pitch - given the investment and support - again something Cook has been instrumental in - that should not be too much to ask for

People should vent about Wednesday all they like - but try the scum players, the timid ref, the CITY players or the manager(s) - why the head of business development??


Well personally I feel that is wrong approach even if the aim is to gather global following. I don't see how bragging and telling everyone how massive we are going to be is going to create interest on wider public? How about trying little bit humbler approach. That might work even better. "Yes, the club is in fantastic financial footing but we are trying to build long term here and take one step at a time". Or something like that.

I honestly believe that's what people want to hear rather than constantly sticking two fingers up to everyone and repeating "we are mega super and we are going to be toppest of top teams in Milky Way or probably in whole universe". That should be the AIM but it doesn't have to repeated constantly. First and foremost we need to let our football do the talking.


Imagine this though for a second
You have a small interest in American Football, american football on the whole is getting more and more popular in your country by the day and there is a lot of money going to be generated over the next few years into american football.
Now a new up and coming team is coming to your town next year, the CEO arrives and declares 1 of 2 things 1) he gets the crowd going saying this club will one day be one of the best, if not, the best american football team in the world or 2) he meekly describes the team as "doing ok but we're taking it one step at a time"
Which is the more likely to make you go out and get tickets?
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Re: Gary Cook

Postby mcfc1632 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:34 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
mcfc1632 wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:EVERY FUCKING TIME someone, anyone, from the Club comes with these retarded "we are going to be MEGA in future" comments we end up losing the next fucking game. Without an exception. The writing was on the wall.

I'd prefer EVERYONE to just SHUT THE FUCK UP and bring cup of some sort home. THEN you can start mouthing off.


100% agree. same a few seasons back under Pearce, we'd win a game then people started talking about Europe and straight after we'd lose to some fucking shite relegation club. Wish everyone involved with the club would just shut the fuck up till we've actually won something!



...that approach only works if we are happy to stay for ever more a team of the stature we were under Pearce

All about opinions - everyone is entitled to their opinion - I just think people on this thread are still just 'venting' being pissed off about Wednesday - If people want to lay blame for losing the semi-final - look into the tactics of the 1st leg - or just put it down to coming out on the wrong side of a good match

How is the football Cook's fault - if Mancini arrives in the USA for a pre-season tour and there is no visibility of our club - no warming up of the media etc - would you blame Mancini - of course not.

People just want to attack someone after Wednesday and Cook seems the latest target - easy target and I guess it makes people feel better

In my opinion, I think we need to separate on the field activities - Mancini's responsibilities - from promotion of the club and the transformation of some medium size club to the persona of a massive club - which in fact we have never been in the context of the modern game - our history in the 60's is about as relevant as the past histories of Bolton, Preston, Burnley etc

Do people really think that the most effective way to promote and grow our club - grow revenues / achieve profitability etc - against a plan of a few years only is to just sit on our hands until we have won 3 trophies..

The reality is that Cook has been very successful in all the aspects in which he should be measured - Turnover, profitability, business funnel and marketing - the club is talked about all the time now - the visibility on television is increasing all the time - yes the rag infested press still try to drag us down - but even some of them are changing their tune and trying to act like they always thought we would make it

These aspects are Cooks responsibility - so well done him

We just need Hughes before and Mancini now to do their bit by achieving a minimum level on the pitch - given the investment and support - again something Cook has been instrumental in - that should not be too much to ask for

People should vent about Wednesday all they like - but try the scum players, the timid ref, the CITY players or the manager(s) - why the head of business development??


Well personally I feel that is wrong approach even if the aim is to gather global following. I don't see how bragging and telling everyone how massive we are going to be is going to create interest on wider public? How about trying little bit humbler approach. That might work even better. "Yes, the club is in fantastic financial footing but we are trying to build long term here and take one step at a time". Or something like that.

I honestly believe that's what people want to hear rather than constantly sticking two fingers up to everyone and repeating "we are mega super and we are going to be toppest of top teams in Milky Way or probably in whole universe". That should be the AIM but it doesn't have to repeated constantly. First and foremost we need to let our football do the talking.



Fair enough NQDP - but you do not need to be told about CITY - but Cook is trying to drum up interest in CITY in the USA - now just imagine if that was given to you as a key objective ahead of a potential summer tour - do you not feel you would have to get a bit vocal - having been out there many times - I would suggest that if that is his job - he can not be too vocal
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Re: Gary Cook

Postby mcfc1632 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:37 am

eastlandsblue wrote:I agree with what Cookie is doing. If it puts more presure on Taggert and the rest GOOD.
Why should he sit back, when he's expected to promote the club across continents.

All this press he's getting, might sound bad, because they would like US to think that way, But its only bad if it does'nt work in our favour.

Weds result wasnt because he said we were already at wembley, its because they were better on the night. His words didnt inspire U****d to play better, Taggerts did. He probably told them this was their biggest game since the CL final, and they had to win it for the fans. Personally Im convinced had the legs been reversed we'd have beaten them easily with our fans behind us.

Cook should be left to do his job and carry on doing what he knows best, winding up the fulking press and Taggert



And look at the sea change - Taggart was as dismissive as fuck about us at the start of the season - now he is wound up big time - we are right under his skin and I love it - and their scummy fans are really realising the truth of our future - it has not be down to our on the pitch performances
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Re: Gary Cook

Postby eastlandsblue » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:52 am

Wooders wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
mcfc1632 wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:EVERY FUCKING TIME someone, anyone, from the Club comes with these retarded "we are going to be MEGA in future" comments we end up losing the next fucking game. Without an exception. The writing was on the wall.

I'd prefer EVERYONE to just SHUT THE FUCK UP and bring cup of some sort home. THEN you can start mouthing off.


100% agree. same a few seasons back under Pearce, we'd win a game then people started talking about Europe and straight after we'd lose to some fucking shite relegation club. Wish everyone involved with the club would just shut the fuck up till we've actually won something!



...that approach only works if we are happy to stay for ever more a team of the stature we were under Pearce

All about opinions - everyone is entitled to their opinion - I just think people on this thread are still just 'venting' being pissed off about Wednesday - If people want to lay blame for losing the semi-final - look into the tactics of the 1st leg - or just put it down to coming out on the wrong side of a good match

How is the football Cook's fault - if Mancini arrives in the USA for a pre-season tour and there is no visibility of our club - no warming up of the media etc - would you blame Mancini - of course not.

People just want to attack someone after Wednesday and Cook seems the latest target - easy target and I guess it makes people feel better

In my opinion, I think we need to separate on the field activities - Mancini's responsibilities - from promotion of the club and the transformation of some medium size club to the persona of a massive club - which in fact we have never been in the context of the modern game - our history in the 60's is about as relevant as the past histories of Bolton, Preston, Burnley etc

Do people really think that the most effective way to promote and grow our club - grow revenues / achieve profitability etc - against a plan of a few years only is to just sit on our hands until we have won 3 trophies..

The reality is that Cook has been very successful in all the aspects in which he should be measured - Turnover, profitability, business funnel and marketing - the club is talked about all the time now - the visibility on television is increasing all the time - yes the rag infested press still try to drag us down - but even some of them are changing their tune and trying to act like they always thought we would make it

These aspects are Cooks responsibility - so well done him

We just need Hughes before and Mancini now to do their bit by achieving a minimum level on the pitch - given the investment and support - again something Cook has been instrumental in - that should not be too much to ask for

People should vent about Wednesday all they like - but try the scum players, the timid ref, the CITY players or the manager(s) - why the head of business development??


Well personally I feel that is wrong approach even if the aim is to gather global following. I don't see how bragging and telling everyone how massive we are going to be is going to create interest on wider public? How about trying little bit humbler approach. That might work even better. "Yes, the club is in fantastic financial footing but we are trying to build long term here and take one step at a time". Or something like that.

I honestly believe that's what people want to hear rather than constantly sticking two fingers up to everyone and repeating "we are mega super and we are going to be toppest of top teams in Milky Way or probably in whole universe". That should be the AIM but it doesn't have to repeated constantly. First and foremost we need to let our football do the talking.


Imagine this though for a second
You have a small interest in American Football, american football on the whole is getting more and more popular in your country by the day and there is a lot of money going to be generated over the next few years into american football.
Now a new up and coming team is coming to your town next year, the CEO arrives and declares 1 of 2 things 1) he gets the crowd going saying this club will one day be one of the best, if not, the best american football team in the world or 2) he meekly describes the team as "doing ok but we're taking it one step at a time"
Which is the more likely to make you go out and get tickets?


Totally agree wooders


David Gold said only this week, the Premier League will be making Billions from tv revenue, within the next ten years from the Americans alone. So maybe just maybe thats way Cook is being so controversial, with these statements, he's getting us noticed
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Re: Gary Cook

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:58 am

mcfc1632 wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
mcfc1632 wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:EVERY FUCKING TIME someone, anyone, from the Club comes with these retarded "we are going to be MEGA in future" comments we end up losing the next fucking game. Without an exception. The writing was on the wall.

I'd prefer EVERYONE to just SHUT THE FUCK UP and bring cup of some sort home. THEN you can start mouthing off.


100% agree. same a few seasons back under Pearce, we'd win a game then people started talking about Europe and straight after we'd lose to some fucking shite relegation club. Wish everyone involved with the club would just shut the fuck up till we've actually won something!



...that approach only works if we are happy to stay for ever more a team of the stature we were under Pearce

All about opinions - everyone is entitled to their opinion - I just think people on this thread are still just 'venting' being pissed off about Wednesday - If people want to lay blame for losing the semi-final - look into the tactics of the 1st leg - or just put it down to coming out on the wrong side of a good match

How is the football Cook's fault - if Mancini arrives in the USA for a pre-season tour and there is no visibility of our club - no warming up of the media etc - would you blame Mancini - of course not.

People just want to attack someone after Wednesday and Cook seems the latest target - easy target and I guess it makes people feel better

In my opinion, I think we need to separate on the field activities - Mancini's responsibilities - from promotion of the club and the transformation of some medium size club to the persona of a massive club - which in fact we have never been in the context of the modern game - our history in the 60's is about as relevant as the past histories of Bolton, Preston, Burnley etc

Do people really think that the most effective way to promote and grow our club - grow revenues / achieve profitability etc - against a plan of a few years only is to just sit on our hands until we have won 3 trophies..

The reality is that Cook has been very successful in all the aspects in which he should be measured - Turnover, profitability, business funnel and marketing - the club is talked about all the time now - the visibility on television is increasing all the time - yes the rag infested press still try to drag us down - but even some of them are changing their tune and trying to act like they always thought we would make it

These aspects are Cooks responsibility - so well done him

We just need Hughes before and Mancini now to do their bit by achieving a minimum level on the pitch - given the investment and support - again something Cook has been instrumental in - that should not be too much to ask for

People should vent about Wednesday all they like - but try the scum players, the timid ref, the CITY players or the manager(s) - why the head of business development??


Well personally I feel that is wrong approach even if the aim is to gather global following. I don't see how bragging and telling everyone how massive we are going to be is going to create interest on wider public? How about trying little bit humbler approach. That might work even better. "Yes, the club is in fantastic financial footing but we are trying to build long term here and take one step at a time". Or something like that.

I honestly believe that's what people want to hear rather than constantly sticking two fingers up to everyone and repeating "we are mega super and we are going to be toppest of top teams in Milky Way or probably in whole universe". That should be the AIM but it doesn't have to repeated constantly. First and foremost we need to let our football do the talking.



Fair enough NQDP - but you do not need to be told about CITY - but Cook is trying to drum up interest in CITY in the USA - now just imagine if that was given to you as a key objective ahead of a potential summer tour - do you not feel you would have to get a bit vocal - having been out there many times - I would suggest that if that is his job - he can not be too vocal


Regarding markets in USA, I reckon both you and Wooders are right though. Without trying to critical of the culture in USA, I'd say that European style of looking at your feet and being al humble probably doesn't work there. I reckon they want to be associated to winners as that's how the whole mentality seems to work (and before any of our American posters kick off with me, I don't claim to be expert on American culture having spent there 5 hours in my whole life).

I would however raise the question whether there actually are potential markets for football at all in USA. Sure there are people with great interest for game but for wider audience I find it unlikely that there will ever be any great (in commercial sense) interest. Furthermore, I disagree with marketing gurus (yes I did my Marketing 1.1 in university) who claim that you can create markets for almost everything with right sort of marketing and business plan.

If you look at how deep rooted interest for English game happened in Scandinavia for example. We had 1st division games on telly eversince mid-60's. Up until late-80's there was basically two main (Finnish) television channels and you had very little to choose from. As our league is played during summer, most of the men were rooted in front of television watching English football. So basically the interest was born from nothing else in offer. Obviously now you got 3rd, 4th and even 5th generation supporters, who from commercial point of view, spend lot of time and money on the game travelling over, buying merchandise and being great audience from international companies advertising on games.

BUT I don't think you can just create that sort of interest from the ground in few years. It takes years and decades of steady growth ofr that to be achieved. In modern world, with so much more in offer, it will be increasingly difficult to reach that sort of audiences, whether overseas or even in Britain. I mean as much as football is national game according to recent studies average age of people going to football was few years ago 38 (to my recollection). That same number was 27 (again, to my recollection) twenty years ago.

To be fair to club though, we have done exceptionally well in getting youngsters in with all the low price ticket schemes.
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