Stevie Geraaaaaaard

[Sister of fu]

We have been saying for a long time that we lack a leader, a player that can grab players buy the scruff of their necks and drag them with him and I see Stevie G as that player, fans that say they would not have him are deluded and lack football knowledge.

When was the last time that we have a central midfielder that could get you 20-25 goals a season.......never. What was the goal outlet from our central midfield this season?? Less than 5? Teams that have that driving force from the center, United have Scholes, Chelsea have Lampard, Arsenal have Fabrgras and Pool have Gerrard tend to win tropies or at least qualify for the Champs league.

Like i said i dont feel we have a chance to sign him but for people to say that they wouldnt or he is not good enough do make me LOL.....

[btajim]

I think Gerrard is too loyal to Liverpool to play for any other Premiership side. He'd have moved to Chelsea in 2005, otherwise. I can see him leaving Anfield but he'll go to Spain or Italy.

[Im_Spartacus]

I think Gerrard is too loyal to Liverpool to play for any other Premiership side. He'd have moved to Chelsea in 2005, otherwise. I can see him leaving Anfield but he'll go to Spain or Italy.

I asked him a few days after out takeover what he thought about the headlines of us paying him £200k / week, and would he come to city, and he answered "what would you do". I took that to mean that the money would certainly make it feasible.

I think he would want to win the premier league before he hangs up his boots, and if we give his career another 3 years at the top level there is no reason he couldnt achieve quite a lot here in that time. If he gets a chance to double his money, I think there is every chance he would come.

Personally though, it makes me a little uneasy - and I cant quite put my finger on why

[Slim]

We have been saying for a long time that we lack a leader, a player that can grab players buy the scruff of their necks and drag them with him and I see Stevie G as that player, fans that say they would not have him are deluded and lack football knowledge.

When was the last time that we have a central midfielder that could get you 20-25 goals a season.......never. What was the goal outlet from our central midfield this season?? Less than 5? Teams that have that driving force from the center, U***d have Scholes, Chelsea have Lampard, Arsenal have Fabrgras and Pool have Gerrard tend to win tropies or at least qualify for the Champs league.

Like i said i dont feel we have a chance to sign him but for people to say that they wouldnt or he is not good enough do make me LOL.....

He will be 30 before he kicks a ball for us.
Spent the last 2 seasons being dogged by injury or playing injured.
A Liverpool fan and player, never put in the same level of performance and desire no matter where he goes.
Got 9 goals this season, and 2 were penalties.
Scholes is 35, Lampard would suffer from the same syndrome as Gerrard, yes to Fabregas though.
He will cost a ludicrous amount and I consider it at this stage to not only important to win, but to make sure other teams lose.
With Gerrard they failed to make the Champion's League, they have never won the league with him no matter how good the squad was.
Mancini has already stated he will be buying younger players to build a team for the next decade, a policy I agree with wholeheartedly.
Finally he would have to change into our 4-4-2 system where Tevez would be occupying the same space as him, making the same movement as him and suffer the same drop in form as Ireland has trying to cope with the same system.

And while I said finally and lied, SoF, fuck you, you think because you play a bit of women's football you have this godlike footballing knowledge, just because we don't want a player may have numerous other reasons other than ability and just cause you didn't think they were important to mention...or maybe not think of, doesn't mean the rest of us missed it. I believe we very much need a forward thinking midfielder, but I think we need OURS.

[mr_nool]

We have been saying for a long time that we lack a leader, a player that can grab players buy the scruff of their necks and drag them with him and I see Stevie G as that player, fans that say they would not have him are deluded and lack football knowledge.

When was the last time that we have a central midfielder that could get you 20-25 goals a season.......never. What was the goal outlet from our central midfield this season?? Less than 5? Teams that have that driving force from the center, U***d have Scholes, Chelsea have Lampard, Arsenal have Fabrgras and Pool have Gerrard tend to win tropies or at least qualify for the Champs league.

Like i said i dont feel we have a chance to sign him but for people to say that they wouldnt or he is not good enough do make me LOL.....

He will be 30 before he kicks a ball for us.
Spent the last 2 seasons being dogged by injury or playing injured.
A Liverpool fan and player, never put in the same level of performance and desire no matter where he goes.
Got 9 goals this season, and 2 were penalties.
Scholes is 35, Lampard would suffer from the same syndrome as Gerrard, yes to Fabregas though.
He will cost a ludicrous amount and I consider it at this stage to not only important to win, but to make sure other teams lose.
With Gerrard they failed to make the Champion's League, they have never won the league with him no matter how good the squad was.
Mancini has already stated he will be buying younger players to build a team for the next decade, a policy I agree with wholeheartedly.
Finally he would have to change into our 4-4-2 system where Tevez would be occupying the same space as him, making the same movement as him and suffer the same drop in form as Ireland has trying to cope with the same system.

And while I said finally and lied, SoF, fuck you, you think because you play a bit of women's football you have this godlike footballing knowledge, just because we don't want a player may have numerous other reasons other than ability and just cause you didn't think they were important to mention...or maybe not think of, doesn't mean the rest of us missed it. I believe we very much need a forward thinking midfielder, but I think we need OURS.

I think Gerrard is at his best when he plays just behind Torres, as something in between an offensive midfielder and a second striker. In a conventional 4-4-2 he drops too far back the pitch. Could Tevez be taught to not drop deep to collect the ball, it is a partnership I could see work. However, I do agree with you other sentiments. I don't want us buying Gerrard either. I thin his best years are behind him and I don't want to give scouse1 a cash injection.

[Im_Spartacus]

We have been saying for a long time that we lack a leader, a player that can grab players buy the scruff of their necks and drag them with him and I see Stevie G as that player, fans that say they would not have him are deluded and lack football knowledge.

When was the last time that we have a central midfielder that could get you 20-25 goals a season.......never. What was the goal outlet from our central midfield this season?? Less than 5? Teams that have that driving force from the center, U***d have Scholes, Chelsea have Lampard, Arsenal have Fabrgras and Pool have Gerrard tend to win tropies or at least qualify for the Champs league.

Like i said i dont feel we have a chance to sign him but for people to say that they wouldnt or he is not good enough do make me LOL.....

He will be 30 before he kicks a ball for us.
Spent the last 2 seasons being dogged by injury or playing injured.
A Liverpool fan and player, never put in the same level of performance and desire no matter where he goes.
Got 9 goals this season, and 2 were penalties.
Scholes is 35, Lampard would suffer from the same syndrome as Gerrard, yes to Fabregas though.
He will cost a ludicrous amount and I consider it at this stage to not only important to win, but to make sure other teams lose.
With Gerrard they failed to make the Champion's League, they have never won the league with him no matter how good the squad was.
Mancini has already stated he will be buying younger players to build a team for the next decade, a policy I agree with wholeheartedly.
Finally he would have to change into our 4-4-2 system where Tevez would be occupying the same space as him, making the same movement as him and suffer the same drop in form as Ireland has trying to cope with the same system.

And while I said finally and lied, SoF, fuck you, you think because you play a bit of women's football you have this godlike footballing knowledge, just because we don't want a player may have numerous other reasons other than ability and just cause you didn't think they were important to mention...or maybe not think of, doesn't mean the rest of us missed it. I believe we very much need a forward thinking midfielder, but I think we need OURS.

I think Gerrard is at his best when he plays just behind Torres, as something in between an offensive midfielder and a second striker. In a conventional 4-4-2 he drops too far back the pitch. Could Tevez be taught to not drop deep to collect the ball, it is a partnership I could see work. However, I do agree with you other sentiments. I don't want us buying Gerrard either. I thin his best years are behind him and I don't want to give scouse1 a cash injection.

Would you not play a Gerrard type player AND Tevez in free-ish roles behind a goalscorer? Maybe if Adebayor could be disciplined enough to hold his position up front and centre knowing that he doesnt have to go looking for the ball, we could get a lot more out of him.

Although we have played with wingers all season, we dont have a player to get on the end of crosses as Adebayor / Tevez are always out on the wing looking for the ball anyway, so it all seems a little pointless

[mr_nool]

Having both in free roles behind Ade could work, but there's also a big risk that Gerrard and Tevez would clash.
Re Ade wandering off to the wings and down the pitch, I totally agree with you. It really pisses me off when he is the one swinging in crosses towards either no one or a bunch of midgets.

[Blue Blood]

hmm....

Would i have the Gerrard of 2008-09 season. yes in a heartbeat.

Would i have the Gerrard of 2009-10 season. nope, looked lost and disinterested all year.

Would a move revitalise him.. yes probably, at least for a season or two anyways..

So in summation is he worth a gamble. Yes, probably.. but it would be a large gamble at that, but a gamble only we could comfortably take.

[dazby]

None of your arguments have even made me waver from my position. He's a crock and too old and wouldn't fit in.

We need a star of the future, not a star of 2005.

[Blue Blood]

None of your arguments have even made me waver from my position. He's a crock and too old and wouldn't fit in.

We need a star of the future, not a star of 2005.

Lets put it this way Dazby, if i was presented with the chance of signing Mesut Ozil or Steven Gerrard, i'd take Ozil in a heartbeat. Why? well just like you i think Gerrard's best days are behind him. It doesn't mean he wouldn't do a good job for us however if he did sign, but i think in all likelyhood we are all debating over a nothing transfer story here.

I don't think Bobby wants Gerrard one jot.. Torres however...

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

None of your arguments have even made me waver from my position. He's a crock and too old and wouldn't fit in.

We need a star of the future, not a star of 2005.

The "crock" argument doesn't quite hold water. He played 2841 minutes of league football this season out of 3420 possible. Only three players (Given, Barry and Tevez) had more for us and Tevez had only few minutes more.

He got 9 goals and 7 assists in those games. That is a very good tally by anyones account.

So basically, you are wrong.

[Im_Spartacus]

I know its contrary to Mancini wanting younger players, but he has shown he is prepared to sign a player to do a specific job.

Based on that, would anyone have Ballack and Stevie G as a midfield pair for a couple of years. Ballack looks like he still has the legs for a year or two

[Slim]

I know its contrary to Mancini wanting younger players, but he has shown he is prepared to sign a player to do a specific job.

Based on that, would anyone have Ballack and Stevie G as a midfield pair for a couple of years. Ballack looks like he still has the legs for a year or two

We have nearly three months to get in some players, it's not like we are panicked in an ever closing window here, we have time to get the right player in.

[Blue Blood]

I know its contrary to Mancini wanting younger players, but he has shown he is prepared to sign a player to do a specific job.

Based on that, would anyone have Ballack and Stevie G as a midfield pair for a couple of years. Ballack looks like he still has the legs for a year or two

Ballacks a free agent this summer. Not a terrible shout that imo.

[Dubciteh]

I know its contrary to Mancini wanting younger players, but he has shown he is prepared to sign a player to do a specific job.

Based on that, would anyone have Ballack and Stevie G as a midfield pair for a couple of years. Ballack looks like he still has the legs for a year or two

def take ballack, him and arteta/gerrard would be a real coup but cant help but thinking all these players are beyond us...

[CITYSTEVEDON]

would i have Garrard, of course i would, while we have a couple of midfielders who hold the ball, we do need to have some1 who can get forward fast,put a decent ball through the defence for trevez Ade to run on to and someone who can shoot from 30-35 yards out. this isn't happening at the moment, we are to slow at getting the ball forward.

[Im_Spartacus]

I know its contrary to Mancini wanting younger players, but he has shown he is prepared to sign a player to do a specific job.

Based on that, would anyone have Ballack and Stevie G as a midfield pair for a couple of years. Ballack looks like he still has the legs for a year or two

def take ballack, him and arteta/gerrard would be a real coup but cant help but thinking all these players are beyond us...

Ballack is leaving isnt he, hasnt been offered a new contract last I heard - might be wrong tho

[xavi6]

None of your arguments have even made me waver from my position. He's a crock and too old and wouldn't fit in.

We need a star of the future, not a star of 2005.

You'd swear he was pushing 40. He's 29 going 30 and fit as fuck.

32 year old Frank Lampard bang in shitloads again this season. I'd snap him up in a second as well.

[john@staustell]

I know its contrary to Mancini wanting younger players, but he has shown he is prepared to sign a player to do a specific job.

Based on that, would anyone have Ballack and Stevie G as a midfield pair for a couple of years. Ballack looks like he still has the legs for a year or two

def take ballack, him and arteta/gerrard would be a real coup but cant help but thinking all these players are beyond us...

Ballack is leaving isnt he, hasnt been offered a new contract last I heard - might be wrong tho

Wonder why?

Yesterday's hero mate.

[Im_Spartacus]

I know its contrary to Mancini wanting younger players, but he has shown he is prepared to sign a player to do a specific job.

Based on that, would anyone have Ballack and Stevie G as a midfield pair for a couple of years. Ballack looks like he still has the legs for a year or two

def take ballack, him and arteta/gerrard would be a real coup but cant help but thinking all these players are beyond us...

Ballack is leaving isnt he, hasnt been offered a new contract last I heard - might be wrong tho

Wonder why?

Yesterday's hero mate.

Nah, the chairman said they would not be renewing anyones contract till the end of the season to avoid distractions.