Ireland Speaks Out

[Burt]

How many times do some of you have to be told that Ireland is a boyhood rags fan. No sentiment from me. Good riddance.

[Goaters 103]

How many times do some of you have to be told that Ireland is a boyhood rags fan. No sentiment from me. Good riddance.

Maybe that explains his regular disappearing act in derby games!?

[Ted Hughes]

His point about bling was kids with tons of it acting like they've made it when they've never played a senior game. In fairness to him he didn't splash out until he had made it, though its an odd thing to bring up.

On the rest of his interview, didn't really surprise me. Stevie's a lad that needs to be the centre of attention, he needs to be playing 90 minutes every game, he needs the fans behind him, the headlines talking about him. He thrives on that and he'll get that at Villa, he won't at City. No player will.
The whole bench thing, well I guess Stephen Ireland only cares about one thing. Stephen Ireland. He only cared about Man City when he was Man City.

Apparently not enough to care if we won or lost if he didn't start the game. That then begs the question of whether he cared about what happened even when starting a game if, in his warped, stupid, fucking head, he thought he wasn't going to be a regular in the team afterwards. We wasted a lot of hopes & patience on that turd & he obviously didn't deserve it.

[blootoof]

How many times do some of you have to be told that Ireland is a boyhood rags fan. No sentiment from me. Good riddance.

Maybe that explains his regular disappearing act in derby games!?

Bellamy with his high fives followed by hands on his hips munich cunt. Well done Mancini.

Good riddance

[blootoof]

ok not followed but you get me drift

[Burt]

How many times do some of you have to be told that Ireland is a boyhood rags fan. No sentiment from me. Good riddance.

Maybe that explains his regular disappearing act in derby games!?

I wasn't going that far mate. I was just stating the fact that he wasn't a natural Blue like some seem to think he is just cos he came through our accademy.

[the_georgian_genius]

You know what? Fuck him.

Defended him for years and years against the boo boys and was so proud of his 08-09 season and even wanted him to do well at Villa but he can get fucked now.

Thick stupid bastard! "Young players are coming in with £10,000 watches on their wrists" What bout pimped up cars that cost ten times as much as that Stevie after 1 decent season?

Milner will be a better player for us than you were Stevie, enjoy the ambition of getting to the quarter finals in the europa league, us and Milner will wish you well on the way to Champions League glory.

[the_georgian_genius]

July 2009

'After that game we didn’t even get a b******ing. I was so depressed at seeing that people didn’t really care. People were laughing. It was the worst moment of all for me.

'I decided that wasn’t a route I was going down. I didn’t want to live my life travelling home from big defeats with a smile on my face.

August 2010

"At Manchester City sitting on the bench I didn't feel part of the team. I was neither happy or sad if we lost."

Thick twat.

[avoidconfusion]

What a fucking dickhead, I am actually happy that knob is gone now... wow and I actually liked him.

[blootoof]

Off topic. Anyone clock Joe Hart lookin over at the City fans as if to laugh at the numbers as he came out of the tunnel?

[gillie]

If you popped a boil there would be more brain matter in the outcome than what Stevie Ireland has in his whole body.Stevie you knob you had it all at City but you were not clever enough to realise that you have to adapt.

[HeyMark]

I wasn't too fussed about him leaving but I still wanted him to do well but after that interview the cunt can go fuck himself! 1 good season in 5 and suddenly you think you have the right to criticise our club you wanker!! Some attachment to the club you had when you state you didn't even care if we won or loss!! I wish we had fucking drove you to Sunderland when we had the chance!!

Says a lot about him as player when we fucking got the same money for him that we we're getting for him 2 years ago when he'd be constantly shite!!

I've never been this annoyed by a player before, fucking cunt!!!!

[john68]

Now you have slung the rope around the tree, loaded ireland onto the horse, whacked its arse and left Ireland dangling to hang, Just take a moment to think whether there just might be a little grain of truth in what he has to say.
None of us likes to hear criticism of our beloved club and I, like you have defended City through thick and thin over many years. But some of this over emotional lynch mob crap is sickening to say the least.

First, none of us truly knows what has gone on inside the club. None of us truly knows what has been said by who to whom, when and why. I have followed this club for many years under some almost tragic regimes of stewardship and managership but I have never known the amount of mud slinging or criticism by fans or more importantly by leaving players.

All players when they leave have their own personal opinions and many have over the years voiced them. This time however some of those criticisms are being repeated. Tevez, Bellamy and Ireland have all complained about their relationship with Mancini or Mancini's relationship with the players. Each of those players are experienced pros and have been around the game for a long time. They would know.
I wonder if some of you can actually read the words then understand the meaning of what was written, or whether like sheep, when the first one goes baa, it becomes a contest to see who can baa the loudest. being a noisy sheep does not make you a better City supporter. Have any of you ever given your all in a job, then felt sidelined by the boss? Have any of you ever got to the point of feeling "I am wasting my time putting this effort in?" "No matter what I do, it will never be respected or appreciated." Have any of you ever got to the point of thinking "What's the fucking point?". I don't believe that Ireland never cared about this club. I do believe that there were times when he felt unwanted by the club and therefore detatched from the regime that controlled it.

What makes me so certain?...because only a couple of weeks ago, I had a lovely and heartfelt conversation with Stephen Ireland, we discussed a number of things, and I can assure all of you that he loves our club dearly but is gutted about some of the stuff that is going on with the present regime.

[Citeh&Crew]

Now you have slung the rope around the tree, loaded ireland onto the horse, whacked its arse and left Ireland dangling to hang, Just take a moment to think whether there just might be a little grain of truth in what he has to say.
None of us likes to hear criticism of our beloved club and I, like you have defended City through thick and thin over many years. But some of this over emotional lynch mob crap is sickening to say the least.

First, none of us truly knows what has gone on inside the club. None of us truly knows what has been said by who to whom, when and why. I have followed this club for many years under some almost tragic regimes of stewardship and managership but I have never known the amount of mud slinging or criticism by fans or more importantly by leaving players.

All players when they leave have their own personal opinions and many have over the years voiced them. This time however some of those criticisms are being repeated. Tevez, Bellamy and Ireland have all complained about their relationship with Mancini or Mancini's relationship with the players. Each of those players are experienced pros and have been around the game for a long time. They would know.
I wonder if some of you can actually read the words then understand the meaning of what was written, or whether like sheep, when the first one goes baa, it becomes a contest to see who can baa the loudest. being a noisy sheep does not make you a better City supporter. Have any of you ever given your all in a job, then felt sidelined by the boss? Have any of you ever got to the point of feeling "I am wasting my time putting this effort in?" "No matter what I do, it will never be respected or appreciated." Have any of you ever got to the point of thinking "What's the fucking point?". I don't believe that Ireland never cared about this club. I do believe that there were times when he felt unwanted by the club and therefore detatched from the regime that controlled it.

What makes me so certain?...because only a couple of weeks ago, I had a lovely and heartfelt conversation with Stephen Ireland, we discussed a number of things, and I can assure all of you that he loves our club dearly but is gutted about some of the stuff that is going on with the present regime.

This is post of the day, month and year, as far as I am concerned.

It's funny.. when I first decided to follow City, years ago, we as fans were happy to even compete with the big boys. We took pride in our Academy hopes, and blue collar attitude. And during that time, I emotionally, and erroneously formed an opinion that English fans were sophisticated and knowledgeable about their sport, than Americans were about their sports (e.g. American football, baseball, basketball).

Boy was I wrong.

As it turns out, English fans can be just as myopic, vitriolic, and STUPID as we "Yanks", and this thread proves it 100-fold.

You fools read Ireland's statements, but refuse to understand. There is more to what he is saying than penetrates you pint-guzzling, mince-pie eating fat-arses. Instead, you'd rather rip on his physical appearance; twist his words on how he was treated; or attempt to create a false argument concerning his opinion of money and young players. (Here is a hint for your dense bastards: Just because Stevie has some "bling", doesn't invalidate that many young players are morons when it comes to managing their new-found riches)

[the_georgian_genius]

Now you have slung the rope around the tree, loaded ireland onto the horse, whacked its arse and left Ireland dangling to hang, Just take a moment to think whether there just might be a little grain of truth in what he has to say.
None of us likes to hear criticism of our beloved club and I, like you have defended City through thick and thin over many years. But some of this over emotional lynch mob crap is sickening to say the least.

First, none of us truly knows what has gone on inside the club. None of us truly knows what has been said by who to whom, when and why. I have followed this club for many years under some almost tragic regimes of stewardship and managership but I have never known the amount of mud slinging or criticism by fans or more importantly by leaving players.

All players when they leave have their own personal opinions and many have over the years voiced them. This time however some of those criticisms are being repeated. Tevez, Bellamy and Ireland have all complained about their relationship with Mancini or Mancini's relationship with the players. Each of those players are experienced pros and have been around the game for a long time. They would know.
I wonder if some of you can actually read the words then understand the meaning of what was written, or whether like sheep, when the first one goes baa, it becomes a contest to see who can baa the loudest. being a noisy sheep does not make you a better City supporter. Have any of you ever given your all in a job, then felt sidelined by the boss? Have any of you ever got to the point of feeling "I am wasting my time putting this effort in?" "No matter what I do, it will never be respected or appreciated." Have any of you ever got to the point of thinking "What's the fucking point?". I don't believe that Ireland never cared about this club. I do believe that there were times when he felt unwanted by the club and therefore detatched from the regime that controlled it.

What makes me so certain?...because only a couple of weeks ago, I had a lovely and heartfelt conversation with Stephen Ireland, we discussed a number of things, and I can assure all of you that he loves our club dearly but is gutted about some of the stuff that is going on with the present regime.

A player who was told he didn't feature in a top clubs plans where he desparetly wanted to stay talks to taxi driver about it so it must be the clubs fault?

What do some fans want? To have kept Ireland and to play with 10 men everygame whilst missing out on the chance of a better player?

[john68]

Dear Georgian...(I find difficulty adding genius...sorry)

I am old enough, daft enough and experienced enough at life to understand whether the person I am conversing with is being heartfelt and honest. It shows not only in the words but more importantly the body language.
It may come as a shock to you but there are cab drivers who have intellects.

It also may shock you to understand that at no point did i say that it was "the clubs fault", they were YOUR words not mine. There are sometimes situations where there are differences without any fault being involved...You being a self proclaimed genius would understand that.

Regarding your last point, nobody suggested anything of the sort. You are making this stuff up.

[Michigan Blue]

Face facts, the lad is a bit of a contradictory headcase who for the last couple years has been taking shots at every City manager he says goodbye to, as well as happily trying to hoard some of the (deserved) cash he now decries.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009 ... ester-city

[the_georgian_genius]

Dear Georgian...(I find difficulty adding genius...sorry)

I am old enough, daft enough and experienced enough at life to understand whether the person I am conversing with is being heartfelt and honest. It shows not only in the words but more importantly the body language.
It may come as a shock to you but there are cab drivers who have intellects.

It also may shock you to understand that at no point did i say that it was "the clubs fault", they were YOUR words not mine. There are sometimes situations where there are differences without any fault being involved...You being a self proclaimed genius would understand that.

Regarding your last point, nobody suggested anything of the sort. You are making this stuff up.

Let me guess what he was saying in this heartfelt and honest conversation with you. That Mancini didn't like him? That he felt like he was being frozen out? That he couldn't understand why new players were coming in as he was the best trainer and always gave 100%?

Like i said, one side of the story. This is what actually happend.

Mancini didn't rate Ireland.
Mancini really rated Milner.
Villa wanted obscene money for Milner.
We didn't want to pay it.
We came up with a deal of X amount of money plus a decent midfielder so they would have a ready made replacement plus good money for Milner.
Ireland didn't want to go.
Mancini's 25 man squad was not going to have Ireland in it.
City told Ireland to train with the reserves as he wasn't going to be included in the 25 man squad and to pressure him into making that Villa move.
Ireland felt City owed him somthing because he came through the academy even though they made him a very rich man with a number 70k a week contract after 1 decent season out of 6 and and even richer man with a £2m payoff.

This is football, you get sentimental, you get nowhere. Ireland has had 6 years to prove his worth, his only decent season came when we finished 10th. We are now looking to win the league. If he wasn't going to do it in the eyes of our manager then he needed to move on.

A heartful and honest conversation in the back of a taxi from a bitter and dissapointed person does not make the club the devil's own and apart from "and I can assure all of you that he loves our club dearly but is gutted about some of the stuff that is going on with the present regime." is not blaming the club then i am a 8ft mexican!

[john68]

Face facts, the lad is a bit of a contradictory headcase who for the last couple years has been taking shots at every City manager he says goodbye to, as well as happily trying to hoard some of the (deserved) cash he now decries.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009 ... ester-city

I'm sorry Michigan mate but some of this stuff angled at Ireland has become ridiculous. I'm not defending Ireland's playing record, that speaks for itself and is open to fair discussion and debate. but to accuse him of hoarding his money and use it as an insult is silly. It has little to with his football. If you read his remarks, he doesn't decry money, it is a statement about attitude. There is enough stuff to attack ireland with fairly without having to make stuff up or misinterpret what he has said.

[Michigan Blue]

I'm sorry Michigan mate but some of this stuff angled at Ireland has become ridiculous. I'm not defending Ireland's playing record, that speaks for itself and is open to fair discussion and debate. but to accuse him of hoarding his money and use it as an insult is silly. It has little to with his football. If you read his remarks, he doesn't decry money, it is a statement about attitude. There is enough stuff to attack ireland with fairly without having to make stuff up or misinterpret what he has said.

His brinksmanship last year just looks a bit pathetic now with all this bullshit about overpaid youngsters and "family club" values.

Stevie was brilliant for us and we all wanted him to get a new contract but let's not be naive. He knew the club was now minted and that it was his big chance to cash in, to the point where he was willing to float some veiled threats to the media.