Behaviour of Modern Players

[avoidconfusion]

It is funny how at some point during ANY kind of discussion on WHATEVER topic on the Internet... someone will ALWAYS draw a comparison to Hitler....

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Alright Stalinist then.
Dont you not understand if somone is prepared to undertake whatever consequences may arise through the non-fulfilment of a contract then it does not matter what people say.And whatever draconian measures people dream up whether it be a ten game ban or even kiddnapping a players family fuckall will make a man back down if you rile him.Now Javier whether right or wrong has made his mind up.

Stalinist, eh?

And rest of that crap makes no fucking sense to me. He is FREE to walk out of his contract and never to play professional football again. Absolutely free. No one can or will stop him if that's what he wants to do. But that's not the case here is it? He wants sunnier climate and probably even more wages and THAT is why he isn't honouring his contract. Out of pure greed.

And as someone already said to you, contract is LEGALLY binding document. Similar to any other contract you make in your life. Surely if you own your house, you wouldn't be best pleased if the person who sold you the house came one day and threw your family out and still kept the money? But he can't do that because you have a contract. Even if "he makes his mind about it".

But yeah, I think you are just winding people up for the sake of it.

Get real.

Holy shit. You tell ME to get real after comparing Liverpool's reluctancy to sell Mascherano for cut price deal to fucking human rights violation.

Whatfuckingever.

[Rag_hater]

It is funny how at some point during ANY kind of discussion on WHATEVER topic on the Internet... someone will ALWAYS draw a comparison to Hitler....

I think its cos some on here have said that a dictator type wouldn't be bad for us.
They are all up in arms though when someone does something they dont like.Hypocrites.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

It is funny how at some point during ANY kind of discussion on WHATEVER topic on the Internet... someone will ALWAYS draw a comparison to Hitler....

I think its cos some on here have said that a dictator type wouldn't be bad for us.
They are all up in arms though when someone does something they dont like.Hypocrites.

So people, me included, think that in football club at operational level strong leadership is needed. And when a player is being out of order and needs a telling to, you think these people are "hypocrites". Do you even know what the word means?

[Alioune DVToure]

The ungrateful little cunt was in West Ham's reserves when Liverpool threw him a rope. And Barcelona need to learn that if you want a player then you pay the selling club's valuation - NOT your fucking own. How dare they (reputedly) demand Fabregas for 20 million and Mascherano for 12 million, just because they are Barcelona. They can fuck right off the cheeky cunts. I see this as a fight for the Premier League, as collectively as clubs we get a truck load of shit from FIFA/UEFA whilst the big two in Spain get away with pulling completely fucking illegal stunts like this one.

[Ted Hughes]

It is funny how at some point during ANY kind of discussion on WHATEVER topic on the Internet... someone will ALWAYS draw a comparison to Hitler....

I think its cos some on here have said that a dictator type wouldn't be bad for us.
They are all up in arms though when someone does something they dont like.Hypocrites.

Are you on drugs?

[ronk]

We had a system where the owners called the shots and players were underpaid (relative to their contribution to the clubs income). It didn't really work all that well, despite people calling it the good old days. It brought in the corruption, greed and double dealing that are now part of the fabric of football. We know what complete cunts some of the current (and recent) owners are, we can't trust them.

Bear in mind that the current system is a result of FIFA allowing a club to leave a player unpaid and without a club because his previous club wanted to demand a transfer fee (and control over where he went) after his contract had expired. Bosman wasn't even allowed play football in a different country. It was a shameful act, unfortunately, there have been other negative consequences because the people ultimately making decisions at the moment are fundamentally corrupt and making lots of money right now.

There is zero will to actually reform the system into an equitable and fair one. It's just about keeping the vested interests happy. As a cost saving exercise owners have decided to collectively limit squad sizes and impose stricter financial controls. These are more-or-less necessary even though the backers have little interest in fairness.

The football transfer system is broken and will continue to limp on while holding the game back. Only a tiny minority would want it changed.

[Rag_hater]

It is funny how at some point during ANY kind of discussion on WHATEVER topic on the Internet... someone will ALWAYS draw a comparison to Hitler....

I think its cos some on here have said that a dictator type wouldn't be bad for us.
They are all up in arms though when someone does something they dont like.Hypocrites.

So people, me included, think that in football club at operational level strong leadership is needed. And when a player is being out of order and needs a telling to, you think these people are "hypocrites". Do you even know what the word means?

So when the leader of a club has to show strong leadership by being dictatorial he is doing something in your opinion that is beneficial,but when a player show the same strength of mind for you that is a cause to get your knickers in a twist.Thats hypocrsy to me.
Your attitude to St.Cregg ,first you called him a woman beater and few other things, then lauding him and now coming full circle and your back to calling him.That has been hypocritical.

[ashton287]

Not about mascherano but about modern players. Infact a very modern player for US.

Balotelli who has been in manchester about 2/3 weeks who is out due to injury and has a missus was in silks strip club last night till all fucking hours in the morning telling strippers that he's got a hotel room they can come back to.

Modern players are all knobs, simple as.

[Lee_R]

I would'nt worry, sooner or later a club that can afford to make a loss will make an example of this type of player. They are cretins though.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

It is funny how at some point during ANY kind of discussion on WHATEVER topic on the Internet... someone will ALWAYS draw a comparison to Hitler....

I think its cos some on here have said that a dictator type wouldn't be bad for us.
They are all up in arms though when someone does something they dont like.Hypocrites.

So people, me included, think that in football club at operational level strong leadership is needed. And when a player is being out of order and needs a telling to, you think these people are "hypocrites". Do you even know what the word means?

So when the leader of a club has to show strong leadership by being dictatorial he is doing something in your opinion that is beneficial,but when a player show the same strength of mind for you that is a cause to get your knickers in a twist.Thats hypocrsy to me.
Your attitude to St.Cregg ,first you called him a woman beater and few other things, then lauding him and now coming full circle and your back to calling him.That has been hypocritical.

manager = paid to give players orders
player = paid to follow managers orders

is that concept of hierarchy and decision making completely alien to you?

[Rag_hater]

It is funny how at some point during ANY kind of discussion on WHATEVER topic on the Internet... someone will ALWAYS draw a comparison to Hitler....

I think its cos some on here have said that a dictator type wouldn't be bad for us.
They are all up in arms though when someone does something they dont like.Hypocrites.

So people, me included, think that in football club at operational level strong leadership is needed. And when a player is being out of order and needs a telling to, you think these people are "hypocrites". Do you even know what the word means?

So when the leader of a club has to show strong leadership by being dictatorial he is doing something in your opinion that is beneficial,but when a player show the same strength of mind for you that is a cause to get your knickers in a twist.Thats hypocrsy to me.
Your attitude to St.Cregg ,first you called him a woman beater and few other things, then lauding him and now coming full circle and your back to calling him.That has been hypocritical.

manager = paid to give players orders
player = paid to follow managers orders

is that concept of hierarchy and decision making completely alien to you?

Does the concept of go swivel not mean anything to you.
Cos if the grass seemed greener to me elsewhere or my boss had pissed me of regardless of what I had signed I would do one.

[ronk]

Does the concept of go swivel not mean anything to you.
Cos if the grass seemed greener to me elsewhere or my boss had pissed me of regardless of what I had signed I would do one.

And that's exactly why there are rules and contracts and all that sort of thing. We're not all Stuart Pearce.

[Beefymcfc]

I've figured it out, Rag Boy is an Estate Agent! Better offer comes in = You're Gazumped!

[Steve]

http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/6338285/-Depressed-Masch-done-with-Reds-Messi

That got my fucking head boiling again. Not that I give two shits about Scousepool or Macherano but how fucking far away these modern players are from real life.

I mean, you sign a fucking multimega billion pound contract that will set you up for life. In exchange you may have to do certain things for limited period in your life like move to new country and learn a new language. And for your average 26 year old those would be very exiting things. But not for these fucking fannies. Many people would give their arm and leg to get to taste life like that. But these jokers have been brought up to "footballers lifestyle" and have no idea whatsoever how priviledged they are.

On top of that it has become a trend now that player "goes on strike" to force a move. That is absolutely fucking disgusting. Fair enough, you want to move elsewhere or better club but you should at least show some professionality and respect towards people who pay your wages, supporters, by doing your job as you always do.

The one thing I don't like is, when that player goes on strike, and behaves like a cunt, refusing to do his 'job'. The buying club still want to sign him (and invariably do), despite now being aware of his ill discipline. This player may well behave in the same way for them in the future. I don't think in the real world people could behave like that at their jobs, and still get a move to a better job elsewhere.

Yet you see people shacking up with people who are cheating on their husbands/wives ... It's a pretty good analogy imo. It's up to you/to the buying club to work out whether it's a personality trait or if there are enough mitigating circumstances (the husband/wife lost interest in sex years ago/drinks and is abusive/there's no love left/I'm not gonna win any trophies if I stay with this shit club)

You're right there mate. If you get a lass who leaves their other half for you, then down the line there's always the possibility the same will happen to you. Stick to the free agents.

[Rag_hater]

Does the concept of go swivel not mean anything to you.
Cos if the grass seemed greener to me elsewhere or my boss had pissed me of regardless of what I had signed I would do one.

And that's exactly why there are rules and contracts and all that sort of thing. We're not all Stuart Pearce.

Rules are often broken and contracts.There may be legal implications but nontheless thats the case.Always has been ,always will be.

[Beefymcfc]

Does the concept of go swivel not mean anything to you.
Cos if the grass seemed greener to me elsewhere or my boss had pissed me of regardless of what I had signed I would do one.

And that's exactly why there are rules and contracts and all that sort of thing. We're not all Stuart Pearce.

Rules are often broken and contracts.There may be legal implications but nontheless thats the case.Always has been ,always will be.

So mate, can you explain to me the consequences of breaking the contract?

[Rag_hater]

Does the concept of go swivel not mean anything to you.
Cos if the grass seemed greener to me elsewhere or my boss had pissed me of regardless of what I had signed I would do one.

And that's exactly why there are rules and contracts and all that sort of thing. We're not all Stuart Pearce.

Rules are often broken and contracts.There may be legal implications but nontheless thats the case.Always has been ,always will be.

So mate, can you explain to me the consequences of breaking the contract?

Dont know in this case.Something for the courts to decide.All the fans can do is moan at what a c*nt he is.
As if there has never been any c*nts before.
And I think estate agents do a job that has to be done and have no problem with gazzumping.

[Beefymcfc]

Does the concept of go swivel not mean anything to you.
Cos if the grass seemed greener to me elsewhere or my boss had pissed me of regardless of what I had signed I would do one.

And that's exactly why there are rules and contracts and all that sort of thing. We're not all Stuart Pearce.

Rules are often broken and contracts.There may be legal implications but nontheless thats the case.Always has been ,always will be.

So mate, can you explain to me the consequences of breaking the contract?

Dont know in this case.Something for the courts to decide.All the fans can do is moan at what a c*nt he is.
As if there has never been any c*nts before.
And I think estate agents do a job that has to be done and have no problem with gazzumping.

Can anyone explain what would happen?

[Dameerto]

The Mutu case implied players have a responsibility to maintain their commercial value while under contract to a club, to me that means training and availability to play. It would have to be something drastic for a club to take a player to court though.