Someone's got to say it eventually

[xavi6]

If we think its boring now, if we brought O'Neill in I would cry. Imagine Tevez running onto Heskey's flick ons. Shudder.

Did you see how Villa played against the Scum today. That's O'Neill's team. I wish we had played half as well against them last week. Villa were very unlucky with the draw. Twice hit the goal frame.
Milner was a top player under O'Neill. Now he's annonymous.

Milner is anonymous because we've dumped him on the fucking left wing. The guy is a box to box midfielder, and an extremely effective one. We're destroying him.

If we play a midfield three next week it should be De Jong, Milner and Silva. Nigel holds, Jimmy gets up and down and the magical little fella creates. Fuck Yaya off and get some energy into the middle of the park.

[Kladze]

I appreciated it Kladze, and in the past I have agreed with you on other issues. But sacking the manager after two 0-0 draws is twattish. Two 3-0 defeats and you may be onto something. But not this.

It's almost 4am here and I'm online to vent about the game because I'm frustrated. But sacking the manager is not the solution.

As I posted earlier on this thread, Mancini adapt, not out.

I'm increasingly thinking he can't adapt mate. We should be set up to TRY to steamroller past teams like Birmingham. We were actually set up to squeeze them into a narrow 1-0 defeat.

And you want him sacked because of this? Two straight clean sheets? With less than 5 shots on target by the opposition?

I want him sacked because, in spite of inheriting a very good squad of players and having been granted a lot more money to add to it, we are playing like the away team at home - and more to the point, a poor quality away team.

The Sheik's money allowed us to go to the best bar in town and throw the biggest party you can throw a stick at. We've ended up with a shindig for fucking Puritans.

I'd like to add one more thing. I've been supporting City for 46/47 years now and I have NEVER, EVER, called for a manger's head before - that's how appallingly bland this team is.

Screw it anyway! I'm off to play poker - at which I'll probably get shite hands all night ;-)

[shawzy]

Bloodyhell.I just dont know what to think and how to sum it all up...Sacking managers has never improved us.
Can we do better without Bobby?..If Martin O'Neill would of managed todays game would we have spanked them.
Very confusing.Im sure all will be much clearer by the end of the season.

[PeterParker]

The game with Fulham will be decisive for him, if we don`t win he is out. I actually like what he did with the team and i really thought that he will have a great season this year, but after the game with Spurs i saw we have a problem. I mean, we play with 3 defensive midfielders, because we like it or not, that is Barry`s official position, and only one striker, Tevez, in a place were he hates it. If we played with Ade and Teves behind him we can do business. Two strikers last season with Birmingh 5-1, one striker this year 0-0. You do the math.

[dazby]

Let's get one thing perfectly straight. Martin O'Neil is NOT the answer.

[King Kev]

Has a manager of a team who are 4th in the Premier League ever been sacked before?

[Socrates]

it wasnt pretty and attacking wise we were not effective, however, we have to give Mancini more time. Sacking him now will be as ridiculous as sacking Hughes was IMO. Since when did we have a divine right to beat everyone, we are very difficult to beat which is a great basis to work from. Mancini clearly thinks Balotelli will have a big say along side Tevez, he has been injured forever and then got his ban, which he is two games into now and will be back soon.

No idea what was up with Ade as he could have been the winner if available today.

Some of the posts are way OTT. Taggart was lucky to scrape a draw, I dont hear the scum calling for his head. Please have a little perspective.

Tomorrow morning's headline: "JF in broad agreement with Wonderbob Shocker"
let the time and date be noted for posterity.

Only minor point to add is that it would be much more ridiculous than sacking Hughes as a) we are in the top 4 and b) we know Mancini is up to a big job, even Hughes now admits the City job was too big for him.

[Blue Toy]

Has a manager of a team who are 4th in the Premier League ever been sacked before?

Were we 5th when Reid got the bullet?

[Sister of fu]

If we think its boring now, if we brought O'Neill in I would cry. Imagine Tevez running onto Heskey's flick ons. Shudder.

Did you see how Villa played against the Scum today. That's O'Neill's team. I wish we had played half as well against them last week. Villa were very unlucky with the draw. Twice hit the goal frame.
Milner was a top player under O'Neill. Now he's annonymous.

I think Milner was played in the centre of the park where I don't recall seeing him play for us. Can't he give him ago there instead of Yaya?? I feel sorry for the lad, he is never in a millon years a left winger.

[Original Dub]

it wasnt pretty and attacking wise we were not effective, however, we have to give Mancini more time. Sacking him now will be as ridiculous as sacking Hughes was IMO. Since when did we have a divine right to beat everyone, we are very difficult to beat which is a great basis to work from. Mancini clearly thinks Balotelli will have a big say along side Tevez, he has been injured forever and then got his ban, which he is two games into now and will be back soon.

No idea what was up with Ade as he could have been the winner if available today.

Some of the posts are way OTT. Taggart was lucky to scrape a draw, I dont hear the scum calling for his head. Please have a little perspective.

Tomorrow morning's headline: "JF in broad agreement with Wonderbob Shocker"
let the time and date be noted for posterity.

Only minor point to add is that it would be much more ridiculous than sacking Hughes as a) we are in the top 4 and b) we know Mancini is up to a big job, even Hughes now admits the City job was too big for him.

He admitted that??

Mad.

[DoomMerchant]

it wasnt pretty and attacking wise we were not effective, however, we have to give Mancini more time. Sacking him now will be as ridiculous as sacking Hughes was IMO. Since when did we have a divine right to beat everyone, we are very difficult to beat which is a great basis to work from. Mancini clearly thinks Balotelli will have a big say along side Tevez, he has been injured forever and then got his ban, which he is two games into now and will be back soon.

No idea what was up with Ade as he could have been the winner if available today.

Some of the posts are way OTT. Taggart was lucky to scrape a draw, I dont hear the scum calling for his head. Please have a little perspective.

Tomorrow morning's headline: "JF in broad agreement with Wonderbob Shocker"
let the time and date be noted for posterity.

Only minor point to add is that it would be much more ridiculous than sacking Hughes as a) we are in the top 4 and b) we know Mancini is up to a big job, even Hughes now admits the City job was too big for him.

He admitted that??

Mad.

i don't believe he admitted that. he might have said "that lot was too fucked up for me in to handle" in his own polite fashion, but...

i think the team hates this manager. Nothing else makes sense. My wife agrees.

cheers

[Douglas Higginbottom]

it wasnt pretty and attacking wise we were not effective, however, we have to give Mancini more time. Sacking him now will be as ridiculous as sacking Hughes was IMO. Since when did we have a divine right to beat everyone, we are very difficult to beat which is a great basis to work from. Mancini clearly thinks Balotelli will have a big say along side Tevez, he has been injured forever and then got his ban, which he is two games into now and will be back soon.

No idea what was up with Ade as he could have been the winner if available today.

Some of the posts are way OTT. Taggart was lucky to scrape a draw, I dont hear the scum calling for his head. Please have a little perspective.

Tomorrow morning's headline: "JF in broad agreement with Wonderbob Shocker"
let the time and date be noted for posterity.

Only minor point to add is that it would be much more ridiculous than sacking Hughes as a) we are in the top 4 and b) we know Mancini is up to a big job, even Hughes now admits the City job was too big for him.

He admitted that??

Mad.

Has he really? I doubt it.

I am still finding it hard to put anything coherent together.I agree with Dazby that it is not the time for the manager to go but he must adapt.The trouble is can he? Today for me cried out for an extra player up top with Tevez.You could 100% have guaranteed how Bimingham would approach the game and yet we played a system that played into their hands.

Would we have scored if the game was still being played now? For me he can play any variation of players he likes but he must take the shackles off and get them out there with a more attacking intent.More movement and quicker movement with players running past Tevez and the "wide" players.They seem to intent on keeping a good shape ,which obviously is important in stopping goals against but if nobody commits forward you get.........very very little if the opposition know what's coming and defend well.

[brite blu sky]

Actually, I'm going to go a bit further with this. It shouldn't be Mancini out, it should be Mancini ADAPT.

The only thing missing from our play is our forwards being more creative. The players are good enough, they are just waiting for something to happen rather than being a part of the creativity. The running off the ball is either a straight line or non existent.

We are currently playing without a target man and without width. That's fine. However, if you are going to play that way you create chances with short passes, 1-2's, creative runs and basically players moving all over the place leaving big forwards wondering what to do.

The problem with this strategy is that it takes a looong time for the players to get in synch with each other on this. Having said that, there really should be a couple of moves that are already bedded in that the players are trying. I don't see it.

In the meantime, we should be playing with a quicker tempo until the players have that understanding.

Note that I wrote all that without using the word gel. DOH!!

I'll go with what you say there Dazby.. i didn't think our movement was too bad just way too slow as you say. Too many players were trying to do it all themselves and not getting the interplay going.. and on occassion they did it was just to slow and predictable.

After the derby draw this was a really bad time to have bad day at the office.. and most seemed in the same mode, Tevez and Silva included.

I'm going for shit happens until the next game and leave it that.

[failsworthblue]

So it may as well be me.

MANCINI OUT if you please.




This is the most dreadful, boring football I've seen since Pearce.
In fact, given the money spent on what we all believe to be class players, it's worse.

Who's with me?

:(

He has put all his eggs in one basket(Balotelli) and that is the problem.

There is no plan B, Ade and Santa Claus have no future and he has made that clear.

Also the most expensive player in Prem History (Wages) is not suited at the moment and I cannot see this improving.

We are to negative and slow.

Hughes will be rubbing his hands , expect a battering next week.

[Crossie]

Milner played in the world cup as a left winger and for 7 years as a left winger in the premier league.

However, he should be in the middle, in place of Yaya,

Im also sick of hearing that Ballotelli is the reason we arent playing attacking football. How can we be a 1 man team with a player whose played about 100 mins for us??

4-3-3 please

................Hart................

Richards Toure Kompany Kolarov

...Milner....DeJong .....AJ/Barry

....Ade/Ballo..Tevez..Silva.....

Barry for AJ vs top teams
Ade/Ballo on form.

Why the fuck should we fear teams when we are away? Its just a physcological thing which doesnt need to exist with the players we can put out.

At the moment all of the players listed above would be first choice for any other team in the league in their respected positions.

Peter Reid was sacked for starting a season without winning for 4/5 games, he finished 5th (Howard Kendals squad), 5th, 9th then started the next season VERY badly.

History shows that with Peter Reid, we sacked him at the right time. Should have been sacked purely for not signing Figo.

[KinkyKinkladze]

Hughes lickers.

[Blue Since 76]

Milner played in the world cup as a left winger and for 7 years as a left winger in the premier league.

However, he should be in the middle, in place of Yaya,

Im also sick of hearing that Ballotelli is the reason we arent playing attacking football. How can we be a 1 man team with a player whose played about 100 mins for us??

4-3-3 please

................Hart................

Richards Toure Kompany Kolarov

...Milner....DeJong .....AJ/Barry

....Ade/Ballo..Tevez..Silva.....

Barry for AJ vs top teams
Ade/Ballo on form.

Why the fuck should we fear teams when we are away? Its just a physcological thing which doesnt need to exist with the players we can put out.

At the moment all of the players listed above would be first choice for any other team in the league in their respected positions.

Peter Reid was sacked for starting a season without winning for 4/5 games, he finished 5th (Howard Kendals squad), 5th, 9th then started the next season VERY badly.

History shows that with Peter Reid, we sacked him at the right time. Should have been sacked purely for not signing Figo.

History shows that all our managers deserved to be sacked, as none of them ever went on to prove us wrong. We're great at working out when to sack a manager, just shite at picking a new one.

[Blue Since 76]

A lot of people on here say that Mancini played attacking football at Inter and that he really wants to play it here. Well, I never saw Inter play under him, so I can only go off what I've seen at City.

Last season, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, as the defence was bobbins and he didn't know the league. Therefore his style was maybe to protect a defence he didn't trust. Those excuses have now gone, but, if anything, the football has become even more negative. I cannot believe that when Balotelli returns from suspension, we are going to turn into a more attacking version of Barcelona. It would be like believing Berlusconi is going to become a monk. You can't play in such a drab style for 12 months and then suddenly emerge, like a butterfly from a cocoon, to a team who scores 8 every game.

What you see on the park now is what he will deliver. If you're happy with that, fine, but I'm not, so for me, he needs to go. It won't happen till there's a decent replacement, which may mean summer, but go he must.

I'll be more than happy to come on here in a few months and admit I was wrong, or next season when we've just won the league, but I very much doubt I'll be eating humble pie.

[blue 68]

Shit, I've already forked out on Fulham< never mind hey, might work out OK

[john68]

Let's chuck this in the ring then...

In 1966, Mercer and Allison took us to promotion from the old Div 2.
In 1967, Mercer and Allison presided over a team that finished 15th in Div 1
In 1968, after 13 games, their league record was; Won...7, Drawn...1, Lost...5...22pts
In 2010 after 13 games, our present league record is; Won...6, Drawn...4, Lost...3...22pts

Consider that Mercer and Allison were then into their 3rd season of their project of developing their team.
At the same time, their team had also been knocked out of the League Cup.
At thast point in their careers, neither manager nor coach had ever won a major trophy nor had any major success in management.

MERCER...ALLISON...OUT????.....IF NOT WHY NOT.
AT THAT TIME WE HAD NO REASON TO THINK THEY WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL
ps...For those who don't know...we went on to win the League Championship that season.

BUT AT WHAT POINT WOULD SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR THEIR HEADS?