Mancini Out

[Abu Dhabi]

OD is easily wound up it's funny

Very easy, all that needs to happen is the club I love lose.

At least you're able to laugh though. Probably because you're a newby.

No its already 3am here and I can't sleep because of the match. I have to wake up at 7am.
But it's still funny.

[Beefymcfc]

I've begun to respect him, but I've never liked him. Is it time to nail my colours to the post?

[Original Dub]

OD is easily wound up it's funny

Very easy, all that needs to happen is the club I love lose.

At least you're able to laugh though. Probably because you're a newby.

No its already 3am here and I can't sleep because of the match. I have to wake up at 7am.
But it's still funny.

That's good mate, well I'm off to bed now that I've vented and I'm gonna sleep like a baby.

You have a good one, tossing and turning... oh and laughing of course.

Sweet dreams cup cakes x

[blues2win]

To those who are defending Mancini you might like to consider that he had the grace to slag himself off on tv. He was obviously furious at conceding too many goals and he said he would have to 'change something'. Only he didn't know what. I was disappointed that he whinged about the penalty. It was a stupid mistake mistake by Vieira which gifted Birmingham a lucky goal. He was right that we should have had at least one penalty; Carr clearly handled and no Boateng's hand ball was while he had his back to the ball.

Apart from that I'm fucking pissed off.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

To those who are defending Mancini you might like to consider that he had the grace to slag himself off on tv. He was obviously furious at conceding too many goals and he said he would have to 'change something'. Only he didn't know what. I was disappointed that he whinged about the penalty. It was a stupid mistake mistake by Vieira which gifted Birmingham a lucky goal. He was right that we should have had at least one penalty; Carr clearly handled and no Boateng's hand ball was while he had his back to the ball.

Apart from that I'm fucking pissed off.

He did blame himself but I think he was totally baffled tonight (has been for a while I think) as to why we have played so poorly for most of the game and have been for quite a while.

He said something about changes so we will have to see what he has in mind but my bet is that he hasn't really a clue tonight what they will be.

[BobKowalski]

To those who are defending Mancini you might like to consider that he had the grace to slag himself off on tv. He was obviously furious at conceding too many goals and he said he would have to 'change something'. Only he didn't know what. I was disappointed that he whinged about the penalty. It was a stupid mistake mistake by Vieira which gifted Birmingham a lucky goal. He was right that we should have had at least one penalty; Carr clearly handled and no Boateng's hand ball was while he had his back to the ball.

Apart from that I'm fucking pissed off.

He did blame himself but I think he was totally baffled tonight (has been for a while I think) as to why we have played so poorly for most of the game and have been for quite a while.

He said something about changes so we will have to see what he has in mind but my bet is that he hasn't really a clue tonight what they will be.

I suspect its more of a psychological ploy than anything else. The problem is more in the head than tactical or zonal marking or whatever. Its also still about forging ever stronger team bonds and unity which is reality with the turnover in players and newness of a lot of the squad are still relatively weak when compared to our immediate competitors.

I doubt if Mancini will throw the baby out with the bath water and nor should he. But going a bit nuclear and including himself in that criticism is valid given a defeat and a draw constitutes a bad run of form at the highest level.

The only real option is keep working hard and keep it focused.

[carl_feedthegoat]

To those who are defending Mancini you might like to consider that he had the grace to slag himself off on tv. He was obviously furious at conceding too many goals and he said he would have to 'change something'. Only he didn't know what. I was disappointed that he whinged about the penalty. It was a stupid mistake mistake by Vieira which gifted Birmingham a lucky goal. He was right that we should have had at least one penalty; Carr clearly handled and no Boateng's hand ball was while he had his back to the ball.

Apart from that I'm fucking pissed off.

He did blame himself but I think he was totally baffled tonight (has been for a while I think) as to why we have played so poorly for most of the game and have been for quite a while.

He said something about changes so we will have to see what he has in mind but my bet is that he hasn't really a clue tonight what they will be.

I also fear this to be the case- he is fucking around with the team too much...never ever have a settled back 4 and has done basically the same with all areas of the pitch....it has got to the stage where he doesn't know imo...........fuck around with who you want but NEVER the back 4.

We are all over the place.

[Fish111]

It is completely irrelevant what is spouted on a message forum, Bobby Manc knows himself what is required of him and his staff. A fourth place finish is the only thing that will ensure he keeps his job for next season, i personally don't even think if he won the FA Cup or the Europa League that that would be enough to keep his job if we don't finish in the top four.
Our gaffers want to dine at the top table of European football in the CL not with the tossers at the FA in Wembley or some stadium in Dublin.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

During The Wolves game I started to believe in us. We have been wank ever since.
Two games against Leicester, one v Notts, chuck in last night and it's becoming the norm. Oh and we have stopped scoring again.
Mancini should be out simply for playing Vieira. He is a liability.
And Jo.

[david yearsley]

During The Wolves game I started to believe in us. We have been wank ever since.
Two games against Leicester, one v Notts, chuck in last night and it's becoming the norm. Oh and we have stopped scoring again.
Mancini should be out simply for playing Vieira. He is a liability.
And Jo.

Actually it was the last 20 mins of that game that I started to have doubts. Those doubts are slowly evolving into fear looking back at what has happened since.

[Chinners]

Match threads are for knee jerk outbursts.

Anyway - Mancini is here till the end of the season and if we dont get 4th hes out.........end of.

This. Imo opinion, Mancini, like Leslie before him, makes some strange tactical decisions at times. Sometimes, however they pay off, sometimes they don't. Either way where we are after 38 games will decide his and our fate. I think the anger at the mo has been compounded by all our rivals winning this week ... next week it might be just City being the only side up there to get all 3 points .... weird stuff this football m'larky

[s1ty m]

Knee jerker????!

Do you come on purely to wind people up because you do a great fucking job of it you fucking arsehole.

Always happy as fuck and whistling "always look on the bright side of life" after we capitulate because of shit tactics by a manager that has done little to deserve the absolute cock sucking you give him everytime he's on here.

I wish you'd both fuck off to be honest.

I've NEVER ONCE seen you blame the manager. Can you not see a problem with that.

Christ, If Chelsea and Spurs both win their game in hand then we lie in fourth, ONE point against a side that I would fancy (and I woud say deserve) fourth.

If and when that happens, he will be sacked anyway and you can cry over mancini going home to Italy while those of us who care about Manchester City FC can face the repurcutions of not qualifying for the Champions League yet again... because we were sent out by a manager who was too scared for the premier league.

I completely agree.

[Renato_CTID]

I'm Italian like Mancio but first of all I'm a Citizen! So if City wouldn't qualify for next Champions League Bobby Manc should be sacked: end of!

[Ted Hughes]

To those who are defending Mancini you might like to consider that he had the grace to slag himself off on tv. He was obviously furious at conceding too many goals and he said he would have to 'change something'. Only he didn't know what. I was disappointed that he whinged about the penalty. It was a stupid mistake mistake by Vieira which gifted Birmingham a lucky goal. He was right that we should have had at least one penalty; Carr clearly handled and no Boateng's hand ball was while he had his back to the ball.

Apart from that I'm fucking pissed off.

He did blame himself but I think he was totally baffled tonight (has been for a while I think) as to why we have played so poorly for most of the game and have been for quite a while.

He said something about changes so we will have to see what he has in mind but my bet is that he hasn't really a clue tonight what they will be.

I suspect its more of a psychological ploy than anything else. The problem is more in the head than tactical or zonal marking or whatever. Its also still about forging ever stronger team bonds and unity which is reality with the turnover in players and newness of a lot of the squad are still relatively weak when compared to our immediate competitors.
I doubt if Mancini will throw the baby out with the bath water and nor should he. But going a bit nuclear and including himself in that criticism is valid given a defeat and a draw constitutes a bad run of form at the highest level.

The only real option is keep working hard and keep it focused.

The problem at set pieces is the lack of organisation, not in their heads. it's a very poor collective failure to do the job properly from all concerned.

[the_georgian_genius]

Lets get one thing straight shall we, out in the open once and for all.

I am not a Mancini arse licker or his son or love him more than Manchester City. I just think he is doing a good job at the minute and i never expected us to win the league this year, challenge i thought we would and we are, as long as we go far in the cups and finish in the top four i will be happy, this is a team that can potentially be frightening, after 7 months i don't expect the manager nor the players to click into gear and win everything straight away.

Now one thing i hate about football forums is the OTT kneejerk reactions when things don't go the slightest bit well. Are we playing well at the minute? No we are not, is it a major problem? No it is not. Will it carry on til the end of the season? I'm not Mystic Meg but i cannot see it. Are there any positives? Yes there are, we aren't playing well but continuing to pick up results, that itself is a positive, its the sign of a top team when they dont play well that they are able to grind out results.

So just like the West Brom carling cup game where the reaction to that game was beyond pathetic, i like to look a bit deeper into why decisions are made, does that make me a better person or fan? No not at all, just i wish i could find people on the same wavelength to discuss the games. I thought this forum was the best out there for discussions instead of being kneejerk but it seems this forum is moulding into the same as all the others.

Can't we all just get along? Discuss the game with a clear head and if i don't agree with you then fine, as long as it's not a OTT way i'm happy to discuss anything.

p.s Do i like to ask myself a question and then answer it? Yes i do.

[mcfc1632]

What a poiuntless thread

When I got back from the natch last night I deliberately did not log on - and certainly had I done so I would have avoided the match thread.

I thought that it was generally accepted that the match thread is an outpouring of raw emotion 'at the time' and not somthing from which comments made should be pounced upon and challenged.

I do not think anyone seriously would want to campaign for Mancini out - at least there shouldn't be. That said I recognise why people whould be fucking frustrated and threads like this are just baiting and invite unnecessary heated debate - why?.

But for me - no more change please - and certainly not that egotist Jose. Of course that is assuming we do not blow top 4

FWIW I cannot understand how the team cannot just come out and go for the throat at the start of each half - and after we score. We do too mcuh of 'sitting back and it invites pressure - it has cost us a shot at the title and if it carries on it could put top 4 at risk

But Mancini will/must sort that (but please no more PV in league games)

[Fesan]

To the people shouting for Mourinho:

Have you watched RM this season? Not looking that good to be honest. If he cannot do well in RM what makes you so sure he would do well here?

Yes he had a few good years at Chelsea and since then won with Inter, except CL the rest of the trophies there were pretty easy I'd say.

[Slim]

To the people shouting for Mourinho:

Have you watched RM this season? Not looking that good to be honest. If he cannot do well in RM what makes you so sure he would do well here?

Yes he had a few good years at Chelsea and since then won with Inter, except CL the rest of the trophies there were pretty easy I'd say.

Are we forgetting he went back to back European competitions with Porto?

[Original Dub]

I've calmed down a bit since last night, as you would expect. Its hard to know we we are out of the title race in Feb, but hey ho, fourth was the target... just like top six was last season if we're to believe what we're told...

Its been mentioned that the similar reaction last time was "pathetic". I take it that "pathetic" reaction was the one that culminated in the fans booing Mancini and the team off the pitch? The one that seemed to make a big impact and made us go on a run that has us scoring for fun??

Rections are normal and they do get a message across.

The problem isn't reacting, the problem is lambasting people for that reaction and calling them pathetic when they can see with their own eyes that (at times) what they are watching simply isn't good enough.

Now it seems to be ok to call for time for "the team to gel". It seems to fine to call for "patience" and to admit that this club is in transition. It wasn't last season.

And that's fucking double standards, no matter how its dressed up.

All that aside, shit HAS to change NOW, because if we go to the swamp like scared rabbits, with no balls at all like we have to every other decent team's turf this season, and come away with nothing, then I think we are seriously sapping what little of this famous "winning mentality" we were trying to nurture, from both the fans and the players perspective.

Top players are given top money, but they're also given top promises of top football in the near future and I shudder to think what not qualifying for the champions league will do this club.

So excuse me greatly for "over-reactin" and not whistling dixie last night, but I had a lot of shit on my mind.

[Alioune DVToure]

I've calmed down a bit since last night, as you would expect. Its hard to know we we are out of the title race in Feb, but hey ho, fourth was the target... just like top six was last season if we're to believe what we're told...

Its been mentioned that the similar reaction last time was "pathetic". I take it that "pathetic" reaction was the one that culminated in the fans booing Mancini and the team off the pitch? The one that seemed to make a big impact and made us go on a run that has us scoring for fun??

Rections are normal and they do get a message across.

The problem isn't reacting, the problem is lambasting people for that reaction and calling them pathetic when they can see with their own eyes that (at times) what they are watching simply isn't good enough.

Now it seems to be ok to call for time for "the team to gel". It seems to fine to call for "patience" and to admit that this club is in transition. It wasn't last season.

And that's fucking double standards, no matter how its dressed up.

All that aside, shit HAS to change NOW, because if we go to the swamp like scared rabbits, with no balls at all like we have to every other decent team's turf this season, and come away with nothing, then I think we are seriously sapping what little of this famous "winning mentality" we were trying to nurture, from both the fans and the players perspective.

Top players are given top money, but they're also given top promises of top football in the near future and I shudder to think what not qualifying for the champions league will do this club.

So excuse me greatly for "over-reactin" and not whistling dixie last night, but I had a lot of shit on my mind.

Sometimes the wrong message. Don't go near a playground with one.