Bellamy

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Has everyone gone mad? This is the same guy that couldnt get a corner past the front post n then starts arguin with fans pitch side after they finally express there displeasure at the same thing week after week, the same guy who went n sucked David Moyes balls in the tunnel after Everton had spanked us n publicly slagged us off for months for givin em 10 mil more than Lescott was actually worth, the same guy that spent as much time out injured as he actually did playing n now to top it all off slags OUR manager off n praises SPUDS baggy faced fuckpig manager publicly in the media........ hmmmmm let me think he doesnt sound like the mesiah to me..... PREOPER CITY MAN I DONT FUCKIN THINK FOOLS

The same guy whom was second only to Carlos Tevez when he was ridiculously turfed out.

Who are you Ruthless? It's gonna come out in the wash anyway I reckon, so you may as well let us all know now? Lots of anger and confusion mixed in... hmmm.. not Robinho Is God... erm... Vhero?

Feel free to PM me, your secret's safe with me :)

Very funny whoever he is:)

Everyone seems to like the passion and commitment that Bellamy brings to the side and yet when poor old Ruthless exhibits that same degree of passion when making his points in this thread, he somehow gets ridiculed for it.

Personally, I find it difficult to argue against what he is saying and I quite like the way he says it. Keep on being true to yourself my friend.

[Original Dub]

Has everyone gone mad? This is the same guy that couldnt get a corner past the front post n then starts arguin with fans pitch side after they finally express there displeasure at the same thing week after week, the same guy who went n sucked David Moyes balls in the tunnel after Everton had spanked us n publicly slagged us off for months for givin em 10 mil more than Lescott was actually worth, the same guy that spent as much time out injured as he actually did playing n now to top it all off slags OUR manager off n praises SPUDS baggy faced fuckpig manager publicly in the media........ hmmmmm let me think he doesnt sound like the mesiah to me..... PREOPER CITY MAN I DONT FUCKIN THINK FOOLS

The same guy whom was second only to Carlos Tevez when he was ridiculously turfed out.

Who are you Ruthless? It's gonna come out in the wash anyway I reckon, so you may as well let us all know now? Lots of anger and confusion mixed in... hmmm.. not Robinho Is God... erm... Vhero?

Feel free to PM me, your secret's safe with me :)

Very funny whoever he is:)

Everyone seems to like the passion and commitment that Bellamy brings to the side and yet when poor old Ruthless exhibits that same degree of passion when making his points in this thread, he somehow gets ridiculed for it.

Personally, I find it difficult to argue against what he is saying and I quite like the way he says it. Keep on being true to yourself my friend.

What a load of horseshit. Fucking total tripe.

Or does this show that I'm passionate too?

Actually, you compare a poster to a player? Ruthless shows total commitment and passion??

Ah fuck it, you're clearly a fucking lunatic.

[ant london]

Has everyone gone mad? This is the same guy that couldnt get a corner past the front post n then starts arguin with fans pitch side after they finally express there displeasure at the same thing week after week, the same guy who went n sucked David Moyes balls in the tunnel after Everton had spanked us n publicly slagged us off for months for givin em 10 mil more than Lescott was actually worth, the same guy that spent as much time out injured as he actually did playing n now to top it all off slags OUR manager off n praises SPUDS baggy faced fuckpig manager publicly in the media........ hmmmmm let me think he doesnt sound like the mesiah to me..... PREOPER CITY MAN I DONT FUCKIN THINK FOOLS

The same guy whom was second only to Carlos Tevez when he was ridiculously turfed out.

Who are you Ruthless? It's gonna come out in the wash anyway I reckon, so you may as well let us all know now? Lots of anger and confusion mixed in... hmmm.. not Robinho Is God... erm... Vhero?

Feel free to PM me, your secret's safe with me :)

Very funny whoever he is:)

Everyone seems to like the passion and commitment that Bellamy brings to the side and yet when poor old Ruthless exhibits that same degree of passion when making his points in this thread, he somehow gets ridiculed for it.

Personally, I find it difficult to argue against what he is saying and I quite like the way he says it. Keep on being true to yourself my friend.

He may make sense sometimes but his contribution to the semi final ticket thread put him firmly in the utter knobhead category.

I didn't suspect you to be another one of the "last seen on bluemong" category though I have to say

[Chinners]

his contribution to the semi final ticket thread put him firmly in the utter knobhead category.

Indeed, for someone of supposedly 37 years age he has alot of growing up to do imo ... or go to WUM school more often

[mcfc1632]

Back on topic - whilst Bellers gave us some real highlights last season - his time with CITY has gone - he is not the future of our club - and if we are bringing in new(yes I know Bellers is not new - but he would be fresh to the current setup) players for next season - Bellers would not be the level we will be looking at

Whether you are in his fan club or not (personally I remember the good games he had better than the bad - but there were a good few of those) - would you expect us to be at the level where we 'sign bellers??' - becuase that is in effect what would be happening - his contract would be up next year and he would be looking for another (final) one for his career.

Would you expect CITY to be at the level next season where he is a first team regular?

If not would you really whant him in the last year of his contract sitting on the bench and agitating all the time - telling the media what is wrong at the club and bemoaning why he is not getting game time / new contract etc.

I like(d) him but time to move on for me

[ant london]

If you were talking about going out and buying Craig Bellamy next season then I'd agree with you 100%.

However that is not what we are talking about.

We're talking about whether or not a player who we already own could be useful for us (and, equally, a player who would be extremely useful to one of our rivals next season). Even if we do move up a notch next season as we all hope you are surely not telling me that Craig Bellamy would not fulfil at least as useful a role as Patrick Vieira has in our named PL squad this season????

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Fuck me Ant, john68 could perform the role that Vieira has this season.
Personally I don't see why folk think he would be the solution. He wasn't, and he isn't.

[ant london]

Fuck me Ant, john68 could perform the role that Vieira has this season.
Personally I don't see why folk think he would be the solution. He wasn't, and he isn't.

I take it you mean Bellamy?

Again....I'll repeat what you clearly didn't read above.

If we were going out to buy a new player/solution/option...then Craig Bellamy wouldn't be the target to go for now (ie. at this stage in his career).

BUT WE ARE NOT DOING THAT

We already own and are paying the wages of Bellamy for another year so we have three basic options:

a) Sell him. This will likely be to either a direct rival or at the very least a club where he can do us damage as those are the only clubs who can afford him/his salary and the only ones to which he would agree to be transferred.

b) Loan him again. As FFP approaches we continue to pay 5 figures per week to get zero benefit

c) Have him back as an option. He can't play every week. He knows this and I cannot remotely see him bitching about lack of playing time. Sure he might have a go at anyone who is not pulling their own weight in the squad or who is not professional enough and upset the applecart...but IS THAT A BAD THING????

c) is clearly the smartest move.....but I'd wager that our manager is too stubborn and/or stupid to see it....as it seems are several of our number

[sandman]

The guy is nearly 32 with knackered knees, he's not setting the Championship on fire so even if he does come back he is very unlikely to be what the silly dreamers insist he would be. Also lets not forget even though the effort was still there his his last few months at city his performances tailed off significantly.

People need to stop crying and dreaming about the woulda coulda shoulda and accept that at this stage in Citys progression we should be looking at better prospects than a 30 something crocked has-been.

I am very greatful for what he did for City, yes he could have been here longer, but its over FFS!!

[Chinners]

If Vieira can sap up a squad place I see no reason why Bellamy can't do the samefor us next season and have far more impact. I don't think he's be a first 11 starter but as a sub to bring on for 30mins if the game was needing some urgency, he would be perfect.He'd obviously need to be getting on with whoever is managing us next season.

[Original Dub]

If Vieira can sap up a squad place I see no reason why Bellamy can't do the samefor us next season and have far more impact. I don't think he's be a first 11 starter but as a sub to bring on for 30mins if the game was needing some urgency, he would be perfect.He'd obviously need to be getting on with whoever is managing us next season.

Unfortunately mate, this has been said repeatedly in this thread and only one post above yours yet again we have someone saying we are "dreamers" and we have to look to someone else for the "future". Like we're looking at a new signing... FFS we already own the player and I'm pretty sure I wasn't dreaming when I saw him as our best player bar one only last season.

Saying he's not "setting the championship alight" is horseshit. He is an important player in their push for promotion and he's done what he's done with not exactly the best talent around him... which I think is about one in three... which i probably the goals to games ratio he's always had. But we all know there's a hell of a lot more to his game than goals.

One last time: In the future, I would like absolute world class beaters playing in every position for City. I would love a young, world class, lightening quick attacker with the passion and commitment of Bellamy. But right now, until that is an option, I'm fucked if I'll be convinced that not having him is better than having him RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!

It was a stupid stupid mistake to let him go without a replacement and anyone who thinks it was a great idea needs to go sit on the fucking stupid step until they cop on.

Christ!

[sandman]

It was a stupid stupid mistake to let him go without a replacement and anyone who thinks it was a great idea needs to go sit on the fucking stupid step until they cop on.

I totally agree with this statement. The rest is just you having another pointless tantrum over a player who has gone, fair do's we own him, but he's not playing here for a reason, whether you agree with it or not, i'm bored of hearing you crying on about it like a child, he's gone and when he comes back (if at all) he'll be 32 and still have crap knees and be another year older.

[sandman]

If Vieira can sap up a squad place I see no reason why Bellamy can't do the samefor us next season and have far more impact. I don't think he's be a first 11 starter but as a sub to bring on for 30mins if the game was needing some urgency, he would be perfect.He'd obviously need to be getting on with whoever is managing us next season.

Are you happy seeing players sapping up a place in the squad?

Just because Vieira's getting away with it doesnt mean we should get someone else doing it too.

[Original Dub]

It was a stupid stupid mistake to let him go without a replacement and anyone who thinks it was a great idea needs to go sit on the fucking stupid step until they cop on.

I totally agree with this statement. The rest is just you having another pointless tantrum over a player who has gone, fair do's we own him, but he's not playing here for a reason, whether you agree with it or not, i'm bored of hearing you crying on about it like a child, he's gone and when he comes back (if at all) he'll be 32 and still have crap knees and be another year older.

Oh you're bored are you? Its probably because of all the exciting points you raise and debate on the board... then I come along with such a silly point and ruin it on you.

And then again you belt off about the fact that IF/WHEN he comes back IN THE FUTURE. Where in my post did am I taling about the fact I want him IN THE FUTURE??

I think you're fucking retarded or something. The point was how he is sorely missed NOW!!! NOW!!! NOW!!!

Now, my apologies, I'll let you get back to your exciting posts that illuminate the board on an almost hourly basis.

Arse clown.

[Original Dub]

If Vieira can sap up a squad place I see no reason why Bellamy can't do the samefor us next season and have far more impact. I don't think he's be a first 11 starter but as a sub to bring on for 30mins if the game was needing some urgency, he would be perfect.He'd obviously need to be getting on with whoever is managing us next season.

Are you happy seeing players sapping up a place in the squad?

Just because Vieira's getting away with it doesnt mean we should get someone else doing it too.

haha, Bellamy "got away with it" last season did he? Did he ever "get away with it"... in any squad he was in... ever?

He fucking earned his place more than anyone bar Tevez. You must have been watching some other team.

[Chinners]

If Vieira can sap up a squad place I see no reason why Bellamy can't do the samefor us next season and have far more impact. I don't think he's be a first 11 starter but as a sub to bring on for 30mins if the game was needing some urgency, he would be perfect.He'd obviously need to be getting on with whoever is managing us next season.

Are you happy seeing players sapping up a place in the squad?

Just because Vieira's getting away with it doesnt mean we should get someone else doing it too.

Granted I could have phrased that better. My point was that if we can give a squad number to Vieira then the likes of Bellamy despite his two fucked knees would add more to the squad than PV has or ever will (coaching role aside)

[sandman]

It was a stupid stupid mistake to let him go without a replacement and anyone who thinks it was a great idea needs to go sit on the fucking stupid step until they cop on.

I totally agree with this statement. The rest is just you having another pointless tantrum over a player who has gone, fair do's we own him, but he's not playing here for a reason, whether you agree with it or not, i'm bored of hearing you crying on about it like a child, he's gone and when he comes back (if at all) he'll be 32 and still have crap knees and be another year older.

Oh you're bored are you? Its probably because of all the exciting points you raise and debate on the board... then I come along with such a silly point and ruin it on you.

And then again you belt off about the fact that IF/WHEN he comes back IN THE FUTURE. Where in my post did am I taling about the fact I want him IN THE FUTURE??

I think you're fucking retarded or something. The point was how he is sorely missed NOW!!! NOW!!! NOW!!!

Now, my apologies, I'll let you get back to your exciting posts that illuminate the board on an almost hourly basis.

Arse clown.

Yes, bored of listening to you on here talking bullshit 24/7 then spitting your dummy out like a 14 year old girl every time anybody doesnt agree with you. Isnt it funny how the pricks with biggest opinions are the ones from miles away who hardly ever attend the stadium like those of us who have had Season Tickets for years and years?

And you call me retarded because I point out the fact that you cant have him NOW NOW NOW, when his loan runs out, he probably wont come back, even if he does it will barely be a short term fix because he's nearly 32, he's not been playing top level football and his knees are fucked.

And i'll let you get back to your incessant bullshit, running up your post count with fucking what ifs and confrontation in an attempt to convince yourself that you're as big a blue as the rest of us despite the fact that if it wasnt for the fact that you'd picked the right team you'd be no better than a Cockney Munich. The fact is since you spend most of your life on here shows what a sad little bastard you really are.

Sad Sad Inbred Spunk Guzzler...


P.S. Westlife are shit!!

[sandman]

If Vieira can sap up a squad place I see no reason why Bellamy can't do the samefor us next season and have far more impact. I don't think he's be a first 11 starter but as a sub to bring on for 30mins if the game was needing some urgency, he would be perfect.He'd obviously need to be getting on with whoever is managing us next season.

Are you happy seeing players sapping up a place in the squad?

Just because Vieira's getting away with it doesnt mean we should get someone else doing it too.

Granted I could have phrased that better. My point was that if we can give a squad number to Vieira then the likes of Bellamy despite his two fucked knees would add more to the squad than PV has or ever will (coaching role aside)

Thats fair do's, I dont think Vieira's been totally awful, just mostly. However I really dont want City to fill up the 25 with a guy who is old, injured and hasnt been playing Premiership football.

For me they are two numbers that could be going to someone young who is going to be a help long term, we have enough experience in Yaya, Barry, DeJong, Kompany, Lescott & Zaba etc...

[Original Dub]

It was a stupid stupid mistake to let him go without a replacement and anyone who thinks it was a great idea needs to go sit on the fucking stupid step until they cop on.

I totally agree with this statement. The rest is just you having another pointless tantrum over a player who has gone, fair do's we own him, but he's not playing here for a reason, whether you agree with it or not, i'm bored of hearing you crying on about it like a child, he's gone and when he comes back (if at all) he'll be 32 and still have crap knees and be another year older.

Oh you're bored are you? Its probably because of all the exciting points you raise and debate on the board... then I come along with such a silly point and ruin it on you.

And then again you belt off about the fact that IF/WHEN he comes back IN THE FUTURE. Where in my post did am I taling about the fact I want him IN THE FUTURE??

I think you're fucking retarded or something. The point was how he is sorely missed NOW!!! NOW!!! NOW!!!

Now, my apologies, I'll let you get back to your exciting posts that illuminate the board on an almost hourly basis.

Arse clown.

Yes, bored of listening to you on here talking bullshit 24/7 then spitting your dummy out like a 14 year old girl every time anybody doesnt agree with you. Isnt it funny how the pricks with biggest opinions are the ones from miles away who hardly ever attend the stadium like those of us who have had Season Tickets for years and years?

And you call me retarded because I point out the fact that you cant have him NOW NOW NOW, when his loan runs out, he probably wont come back, even if he does it will barely be a short term fix because he's nearly 32, he's not been playing top level football and his knees are fucked.

And i'll let you get back to your incessant bullshit, running up your post count with fucking what ifs and confrontation in an attempt to convince yourself that you're as big a blue as the rest of us despite the fact that if it wasnt for the fact that you'd picked the right team you'd be no better than a Cockney Munich. The fact is since you spend most of your life on here shows what a sad little bastard you really are.

Sad Sad Inbred Spunk Guzzler...


P.S. Westlife are shit!!

Haha did I hit a sore spot there?? The old "you're not from England" argument that comes out everytime you realise you haven't got the mental capacity to win a football argument. Where in God's name you got the idea I think I'm a "bigger blue" than anyone is beyond me. Maybe you think I am because its only your mind that that thought has crossed?

But you say I'm a sad bastard for "spending most of my life on here"? You could be insulting quite a lot of people with that statement... in actual fact I don't have a particularly large post count considering how many years I've been on this site I don't think?

Anyway, back to the lecture at hand - you do stand out to me as one of the more slower of the posters on here, so I am ashamed of myself for getting into a debate about football with you. I should have known better.

We'll agree to disagree for the sake of the thread. I say we could have done with Bellamy RIGHT NOW - he was our second best player only last season and it was a silly mistake to let him go without replacing him. You disagree and call me boring, childish and a dreamer for these views. Fine.

And Bros deserved all the success they got.

[mcfc1632]

I loved the idea of Bellers on the bench as an impact player coming on for the last 20 - 30mins or so

It would have been great to have had that option - but we have been denied it - why? I suspect becuase the manager decided that the option was not worth the agitation that comes with having Craig around. In that regard Bellers has let himself, us and the club down.

So if that was the case then - why should it be any different now / next season - it would be great if it could be - but I just do not see it

Now I might think that Mancini should have worked harder to accomodate bellers in the squad, but once he made the decision to get rid of what he sees as disruptive influence he cannot really go back on that

No - he needs to get good young players in - but make the right signings - we really need to hit the jackpot with some signings - i.e. better than we expected - having Bellers here with his proven history of being disruptive as he enters the last year of his contract would not seem to be the answer

He would be great for the impact role I mention - but the manager has already decided that it is not worth the hassle - so we have to assume that is the case and back him I guess - it becomes Marwood's / Cook's problem - to lessen the financial impact