Glory Hunting Band-Waggon Jumpers

[Florida Blue]

I think my original point is in danger of becoming lost.

Just to reiterate, I am not against the idea of our club gaining more fans, it just worries me that existing fans may miss out on tickets because of them.

Nah Lee, we just like to mindf*ck you and spin things to drive you mental. ;)

[Rag_hater]

I think my original point is in danger of becoming lost.

Just to reiterate, I am not against the idea of our club gaining more fans, it just worries me that existing fans may miss out on tickets because of them.

No matter how you try to spin that its discrimination.
If certain people are given priority because of whatever reasons you wish to dream up it is nontheless unfair treatment.

[ronk]

I think my original point is in danger of becoming lost.

Just to reiterate, I am not against the idea of our club gaining more fans, it just worries me that existing fans may miss out on tickets because of them.

No matter how you try to spin that its discrimination.
If certain people are given priority because of whatever reasons you wish to dream up it is nontheless unfair treatment.

That's taking egalitarianism to almost absurd lengths. Is the Loyalty system intrinsically unfair or is any unfairness due to imperfections in the system?

[DoomMerchant]

i would like to consider myself both a suit and a gloryhunter. Now who has a fuclin ticket for me because i just got a work boondoggle approved the following week and the wife has green lighted me leaving the friday before to see if i can sniff some glory with this goddammed football club.

Who's got a ticket?

Noolie -- worst case we get shitfaced in some pub, start some fights and spend your wedding money on hookers and beers. Also, fags.

cheers

p.s. im a lover not a fighter, but i'm the guy in your crew who you didn't suspect it but i lose my mind and am capable of overkill which would end me up in jail if i were really prone to a dust up due to my sicilian temper. Thank fuck marijuana kind of cured me of the urge to start trouble. Don't cross me Bingo...it's a warning, wee man.

cheers again

[Florida Blue]

i would like to consider myself both a suit and a gloryhunter. Now who has a fuclin ticket for me because i just got a work boondoggle approved the following week and the wife has green lighted me leaving the friday before to see if i can sniff some glory with this goddammed football club.

Who's got a ticket?

Noolie -- worst case we get shitfaced in some pub, start some fights and spend your wedding money on hookers and beers. Also, fags. cheers

p.s. im a lover not a fighter, but i'm the guy in your crew who you didn't suspect it but i lose my mind and am capable of overkill which would end me up in jail if i were really prone to a dust up due to my sicilian temper. Thank fuck marijuana kind of cured me of the urge to start trouble. Don't cross me Bingo...it's a warning, wee man.

cheers again

How are you defining said word in this case? You are on the left side of the Atlantic.

[mr_nool]

i would like to consider myself both a suit and a gloryhunter. Now who has a fuclin ticket for me because i just got a work boondoggle approved the following week and the wife has green lighted me leaving the friday before to see if i can sniff some glory with this goddammed football club.

Who's got a ticket?

Noolie -- worst case we get shitfaced in some pub, start some fights and spend your wedding money on hookers and beers. Also, fags.

cheers

p.s. im a lover not a fighter, but i'm the guy in your crew who you didn't suspect it but i lose my mind and am capable of overkill which would end me up in jail if i were really prone to a dust up due to my sicilian temper. Thank fuck marijuana kind of cured me of the urge to start trouble. Don't cross me Bingo...it's a warning, wee man.

cheers again

PM me your number before you leave for the UK, mate. My backup plan is to get drunk in the pubs around Wembley and then to head to that City pub in Farringdon. I'll be going to London on Saturday morning, but won't bring a laptop so won't have an internet.

[Rag_hater]

I think my original point is in danger of becoming lost.

Just to reiterate, I am not against the idea of our club gaining more fans, it just worries me that existing fans may miss out on tickets because of them.

No matter how you try to spin that its discrimination.
If certain people are given priority because of whatever reasons you wish to dream up it is nontheless unfair treatment.

That's taking egalitarianism to almost absurd lengths. Is the Loyalty system intrinsically unfair or is any unfairness due to imperfections in the system?

To me the club having a loyalty system is an indicator of discrimination.If every game was treated as the previous game for me that would indicate a more balanced approach to the games.
The club is promoting discrimination by having a loyalty scheme.
That may be a better way to divvy up what limited tickets they have but nontheless it promotes a feeling or attitude of devoted attachment which may be needed to fill the place on not so glamorous occasions.But for me when there is a popular event happening I don't think previous criteria should be taken into account and a first come first served should apply.
For me the loyalty scheme rewards people for the wrong reasons.
There might be reasons why people cannot be loyal and for me this is reason enough for it to only have a certain amount of influence in allocating tickets.

[Wonderwall]

To me the club having a loyalty system is an indicator of discrimination.If every game was treated as the previous game for me that would indicate a more balanced approach to the games.
The club is promoting discrimination by having a loyalty scheme.
That may be a better way to divvy up what limited tickets they have but nontheless it promotes a feeling or attitude of devoted attachment which may be needed to fill the place on not so glamorous occasions.But for me when there is a popular event happening I don't think previous criteria should be taken into account and a first come first served should apply.
For me the loyalty scheme rewards people for the wrong reasons.
There might be reasons why people cannot be loyal and for me this is reason enough for it to only have a certain amount of influence in allocating tickets.

this post is quite unbelievable, I really dont know what to say RH, I often disagree with you but that post you have just written is so ridiculous I feel speechless. I will just sit here and shake my head in disbelief.

[9secondlegend]

I think my original point is in danger of becoming lost.

Just to reiterate, I am not against the idea of our club gaining more fans, it just worries me that existing fans may miss out on tickets because of them.

No matter how you try to spin that its discrimination.
If certain people are given priority because of whatever reasons you wish to dream up it is nontheless unfair treatment.

That's taking egalitarianism to almost absurd lengths. Is the Loyalty system intrinsically unfair or is any unfairness due to imperfections in the system?

To me the club having a loyalty system is an indicator of discrimination.If every game was treated as the previous game for me that would indicate a more balanced approach to the games.
The club is promoting discrimination by having a loyalty scheme.
That may be a better way to divvy up what limited tickets they have but nontheless it promotes a feeling or attitude of devoted attachment which may be needed to fill the place on not so glamorous occasions.But for me when there is a popular event happening I don't think previous criteria should be taken into account and a first come first served should apply.
For me the loyalty scheme rewards people for the wrong reasons.
There might be reasons why people cannot be loyal and for me this is reason enough for it to only have a certain amount of influence in allocating tickets.

i take it you never got a ticket?

[King Kev]

To me the club having a loyalty system is an indicator of discrimination.If every game was treated as the previous game for me that would indicate a more balanced approach to the games.
The club is promoting discrimination by having a loyalty scheme.
That may be a better way to divvy up what limited tickets they have but nontheless it promotes a feeling or attitude of devoted attachment which may be needed to fill the place on not so glamorous occasions.But for me when there is a popular event happening I don't think previous criteria should be taken into account and a first come first served should apply.
For me the loyalty scheme rewards people for the wrong reasons.
There might be reasons why people cannot be loyal and for me this is reason enough for it to only have a certain amount of influence in allocating tickets.

You are the best WUM on here since Dev moved on.

Good work, keep it up.

[DoomMerchant]

i would like to consider myself both a suit and a gloryhunter. Now who has a fuclin ticket for me because i just got a work boondoggle approved the following week and the wife has green lighted me leaving the friday before to see if i can sniff some glory with this goddammed football club.

Who's got a ticket?

Noolie -- worst case we get shitfaced in some pub, start some fights and spend your wedding money on hookers and beers. Also, fags. cheers

p.s. im a lover not a fighter, but i'm the guy in your crew who you didn't suspect it but i lose my mind and am capable of overkill which would end me up in jail if i were really prone to a dust up due to my sicilian temper. Thank fuck marijuana kind of cured me of the urge to start trouble. Don't cross me Bingo...it's a warning, wee man.

cheers again

How are you defining said word in this case? You are on the left side of the Atlantic.

was i confusing? i meant, to celebrate Noolie's forthcoming nuptials that we would find smaller versions of "us" and have butt sex with them. And smoke a square when we're done.

cheers

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

I don't know any new Blues. Still going to the game with the same people, still see the same faces on my travels.
There isn't a right lot of room for Newbies. If anything we have more people who hate us now rather than love us. I suspect that casual Blues may feel more inspired to turn up than used to.

[Rag_hater]

To me the club having a loyalty system is an indicator of discrimination.If every game was treated as the previous game for me that would indicate a more balanced approach to the games.
The club is promoting discrimination by having a loyalty scheme.
That may be a better way to divvy up what limited tickets they have but nontheless it promotes a feeling or attitude of devoted attachment which may be needed to fill the place on not so glamorous occasions.But for me when there is a popular event happening I don't think previous criteria should be taken into account and a first come first served should apply.
For me the loyalty scheme rewards people for the wrong reasons.
There might be reasons why people cannot be loyal and for me this is reason enough for it to only have a certain amount of influence in allocating tickets.

You are the best WUM on here since Dev moved on.

Good work, keep it up.

I think I have more to offer than Dev.
Anyway.
If you are telling me that you go to the matches because somebody is holding a gun to your head or your family is under threat I think thats a bit of a porkie pie and delusion on your part.
You seem to have been telling yourself stories about loyalty for long enough to believe it.
Take a look at what you do from somebody outside your circle.
To me it seems you go to the games because you enjoy it regardless of the time and expense because its what you want to do and has probably become a bit of a habit.
Loyalty becomes an issue that comes with the fact you do what you do to please yourself.

[King Kev]

To me the club having a loyalty system is an indicator of discrimination.If every game was treated as the previous game for me that would indicate a more balanced approach to the games.
The club is promoting discrimination by having a loyalty scheme.
That may be a better way to divvy up what limited tickets they have but nontheless it promotes a feeling or attitude of devoted attachment which may be needed to fill the place on not so glamorous occasions.But for me when there is a popular event happening I don't think previous criteria should be taken into account and a first come first served should apply.
For me the loyalty scheme rewards people for the wrong reasons.
There might be reasons why people cannot be loyal and for me this is reason enough for it to only have a certain amount of influence in allocating tickets.

You are the best WUM on here since Dev moved on.

Good work, keep it up.

I think I have more to offer than Dev.

Unfortunately not.

Anyway.
If you are telling me that you go to the matches because somebody is holding a gun to your head or your family is under threat I think thats a bit of a porkie pie and delusion on your part.

It would be.... if I had ever said it!??

You seem to have been telling yourself stories about loyalty for long enough to believe it.

I like telling myself stories about loyalty, my 6000 loyalty points make me believe it.

Take a look at what you do from somebody outside your circle.

What is it 'that I do' and who is in my circle??

To me it seems you go to the games because you enjoy it regardless of the time and expense because its what you want to do and has probably become a bit of a habit.
Loyalty becomes an issue that comes with the fact you do what you do to please yourself.

Thanks for the psyco-analysis, maybe if you use facts in future rather than making shit up that would probably help with the accuracy xx

Cuckoo

[Original Dub]

If it was a choice between the glory hunters getting the tickets ahead of the silly cunts that are going to make the club look disgraceful again by chanting Munich chants, then I'd pick the glory hunters every day of the week.

There's more ways of showing your loyalty to the club and representing the club than just turning up and making a prick out of yourself IMO.

"I go every week but I celebrate tragedy for the world to see". No fucking thanks.

[Beefymcfc]

The only way to assure yourself a ticket for a final is by getting yourself in the Cup Scheme as we've seen this season. It's definately something I may consider next year just in case they give them even more sway and push me back a day or so just because I ain't signed up and someone with their 1st year SC and CDS membership try and nick my seat. Cheeky Bastards!

Our system is probably the best I've seen and rewards Loyalty with, well..................Loyalty.

[Rag_hater]

To me the club having a loyalty system is an indicator of discrimination.If every game was treated as the previous game for me that would indicate a more balanced approach to the games.
The club is promoting discrimination by having a loyalty scheme.
That may be a better way to divvy up what limited tickets they have but nontheless it promotes a feeling or attitude of devoted attachment which may be needed to fill the place on not so glamorous occasions.But for me when there is a popular event happening I don't think previous criteria should be taken into account and a first come first served should apply.
For me the loyalty scheme rewards people for the wrong reasons.
There might be reasons why people cannot be loyal and for me this is reason enough for it to only have a certain amount of influence in allocating tickets.

You are the best WUM on here since Dev moved on.

Good work, keep it up.

I think I have more to offer than Dev.

Unfortunately not.

Anyway.
If you are telling me that you go to the matches because somebody is holding a gun to your head or your family is under threat I think thats a bit of a porkie pie and delusion on your part.

It would be.... if I had ever said it!??

You seem to have been telling yourself stories about loyalty for long enough to believe it.

I like telling myself stories about loyalty, my 6000 loyalty points make me believe it.

Take a look at what you do from somebody outside your circle.

What is it 'that I do' and who is in my circle??

To me it seems you go to the games because you enjoy it regardless of the time and expense because its what you want to do and has probably become a bit of a habit.
Loyalty becomes an issue that comes with the fact you do what you do to please yourself.

Thanks for the psyco-analysis, maybe if you use facts in future rather than making shit up that would probably help with the accuracy xx

Cuckoo

The gun to head was an example like your example of blood boiling.Niether are likely to be true but said to make a point.See a doctor if your blood is boiling.
Loyalty has limits because there are competing objects of one’s loyalty. Being totally loyal to our club leads you to being disloyal to your family or friends.
So you have 6000 thousand pts.To me that says that regardless of what anybody thinks you will do as you please.The fact that you have acquired 6000 thousand pts along the way.That is just a benefit for you of being selfish.
By some of the stuff you have said in the M thread it seems that going to the match and having a laff at other peoples expense is something you will pay money to experience.That's loyalty I suppose.
To me it seems as if your having a lot of fun being loyal and doing whatever you want so personally wouldn't reward you for it but the club wants your money so no doubt they will give you some benefits as long as you keep spending.
And the circle you mix in I apologise but I thought someone as well known as yourself who has over time gained 6000 pts would know a few poeple at the ground etc...

[aaron bond]

To me the club having a loyalty system is an indicator of discrimination.If every game was treated as the previous game for me that would indicate a more balanced approach to the games.
The club is promoting discrimination by having a loyalty scheme.
That may be a better way to divvy up what limited tickets they have but nontheless it promotes a feeling or attitude of devoted attachment which may be needed to fill the place on not so glamorous occasions.But for me when there is a popular event happening I don't think previous criteria should be taken into account and a first come first served should apply.
For me the loyalty scheme rewards people for the wrong reasons.
There might be reasons why people cannot be loyal and for me this is reason enough for it to only have a certain amount of influence in allocating tickets.

You are the best WUM on here since Dev moved on.

Good work, keep it up.

I think I have more to offer than Dev.

Unfortunately not.

Anyway.
If you are telling me that you go to the matches because somebody is holding a gun to your head or your family is under threat I think thats a bit of a porkie pie and delusion on your part.

It would be.... if I had ever said it!??

You seem to have been telling yourself stories about loyalty for long enough to believe it.

I like telling myself stories about loyalty, my 6000 loyalty points make me believe it.

Take a look at what you do from somebody outside your circle.

What is it 'that I do' and who is in my circle??

To me it seems you go to the games because you enjoy it regardless of the time and expense because its what you want to do and has probably become a bit of a habit.
Loyalty becomes an issue that comes with the fact you do what you do to please yourself.

Thanks for the psyco-analysis, maybe if you use facts in future rather than making shit up that would probably help with the accuracy xx

Cuckoo

The gun to head was an example like your example of blood boiling.Niether are likely to be true but said to make a point.See a doctor if your blood is boiling.
Loyalty has limits because there are competing objects of one’s loyalty. Being totally loyal to our club leads you to being disloyal to your family or friends.
So you have 6000 thousand pts.To me that says that regardless of what anybody thinks you will do as you please.The fact that you have acquired 6000 thousand pts along the way.That is just a benefit for you of being selfish.
By some of the stuff you have said in the M thread it seems that going to the match and having a laff at other peoples expense is something you will pay money to experience.That's loyalty I suppose.
To me it seems as if your having a lot of fun being loyal and doing whatever you want so personally wouldn't reward you for it but the club wants your money so no doubt they will give you some benefits as long as you keep spending.
And the circle you mix in I apologise but I thought someone as well known as yourself who has over time gained 6000 pts would know a few poeple at the ground etc...

Your argument is so flawed it's ridiculous. All businesses, whether in sport or elsewhere, thrive on loyalty. There are fans who go week-in, week-out, who pay their money, watch as many games as possible, and probably spend more on merchandise. They, therefore, deserve first-choice when the big games, e.g. FA Cup Finals, come around.

I, unfortunately, cannot attend many games these days as I moved abroad a few months back. I'm still coming back for the final and am doing my best to get a ticket. But by no means do I think I should get a ticket ahead of those fans who have been every week throughout the season. I've moved abroad so have given up my right to be entitled to a ticket automatically.

And that's what it comes down to, when the big games come around, those who have dedicated the most time and money should get the first choice. Even if I cannot make a game, I still watch it with as much passion as if I was in the stands chanting 'Blue Moon', but there does have to be some sort of programme to determine who gets tickets. My passion is further down the list of priorities for the club compared to ticket purchases and merchandise, and I'm fine with that.

[Flixton Blue]

I think we'll struggle to sell out the Charity Shield if we win the FA Cup though.

[King Kev]

So you have 6000 thousand pts.To me that says that regardless of what anybody thinks you will do as you please.The fact that you have acquired 6000 thousand pts along the way.That is just a benefit for you of being selfish.

Do you actually read what you write??