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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Alioune DVToure » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:38 am

Goaters 103 wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:who cares?


This. Who gives a monkeys chuff where Hughes is going, what he is doing etc. Dont like him, dont hate him, quite frankly dont think anything of him either way. As he's no longer our manager he is of little or no concern to us.


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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Goaters 103 » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:51 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:who cares?


This. Who gives a monkeys chuff where Hughes is going, what he is doing etc. Dont like him, dont hate him, quite frankly dont think anything of him either way. As he's no longer our manager he is of little or no concern to us.


This is a football forum for all football issues. Every time a manager leaves a club, we discuss it.

Not interested? Don't post.


Gee thanks for the lesson. Somebody made you chief around here? Ill post what I think on a subject - dont like it? Never mind, you'll get over it.
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby ross.mcfc » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:52 am

Hughes has been quite smart with this one I think. A very good season for Fulham is finishing top 10 and he achieved that and I doubt there are any assurances over finances for next year to improve on that. Dont blame Alfayed either. They would have to spend BIG to challenge the top 6 and even then there is no guarentees.

Hughes have taken Fulham as far as they can go in the league and restored his reputation. Why stick around for next season and risk it losing it again. Look at Moyles at Everton. What he is striving for every season? 8th? No thanks.

There is going to be a big manager merry go round in the Premiership in the next year. An unemployed media darling like Hughes is a far better option than a contracted Hughes. Villa and Chelsea are looking for managers. Arry is angling his way to the England job and will take it the minute he's offered it.

He's a rich man. He can afford take a few months off and gamble.
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:57 am

walmai wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:They may have lost two good managers in twelve months, but at least they've got a garish statue of Michael Jackson.

Swings and roundabouts.


Is that on KFAQ days, or would you expand it into a Neverlandesque perma-structure?

Sounds, a bit off the wall.

Unless, you wanna be starting summat?


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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Chinners » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:05 am

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
walmai wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:They may have lost two good managers in twelve months, but at least they've got a garish statue of Michael Jackson.

Swings and roundabouts.


Is that on KFAQ days, or would you expand it into a Neverlandesque perma-structure?

Sounds, a bit off the wall.

Unless, you wanna be starting summat?


Hi Walmai,

Do I detect that you're starting to sound like a Northerner ??

Forget about West Ham; pack your bags, move up here and become a City supporter. Life would be so much better for you.


Ha ha ... you need to sort out your detective device ... I detect MJ songtastic irony .... maybe

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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Alioune DVToure » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:48 am

walmai wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:They may have lost two good managers in twelve months, but at least they've got a garish statue of Michael Jackson.

Swings and roundabouts.


Is that on KFAQ days, or would you expand it into a Neverlandesque perma-structure?

Sounds, a bit off the wall.

Unless, you wanna be starting summat?


I've looked at this about ten times and I still have no idea what KFAQ stands for.
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Alioune DVToure » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:51 am

Goaters 103 wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:who cares?


This. Who gives a monkeys chuff where Hughes is going, what he is doing etc. Dont like him, dont hate him, quite frankly dont think anything of him either way. As he's no longer our manager he is of little or no concern to us.


This is a football forum for all football issues. Every time a manager leaves a club, we discuss it.

Not interested? Don't post.


Gee thanks for the lesson. Somebody made you chief around here? Ill post what I think on a subject - dont like it? Never mind, you'll get over it.


Me the chief? You're the one who's ordained that this topic isn't worthy of discussion.

I have no opinion on some threads. I don't post in them.
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Dameerto » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:22 am

ross.mcfc wrote:Hughes has been quite smart with this one I think. A very good season for Fulham is finishing top 10 and he achieved that and I doubt there are any assurances over finances for next year to improve on that. Dont blame Alfayed either. They would have to spend BIG to challenge the top 6 and even then there is no guarentees.

Hughes have taken Fulham as far as they can go in the league and restored his reputation. Why stick around for next season and risk it losing it again. Look at Moyles at Everton. What he is striving for every season? 8th? No thanks.

There is going to be a big manager merry go round in the Premiership in the next year. An unemployed media darling like Hughes is a far better option than a contracted Hughes. Villa and Chelsea are looking for managers. Arry is angling his way to the England job and will take it the minute he's offered it.

He's a rich man. He can afford take a few months off and gamble.


I think you're right, the top six is a firm top six at the moment, his only possibility with Fulham was to fight it out for 7th and hope there were no domestic cup surprises to take away the Europa slot (or tell his players to treat the opposition as though they had brittle bone disease in the hopes of getting the fair play spot IF our league qualified again). He will end up at Villa, all the noises from both parties are a collective smokescreen until his alleged clause from his Fulham contract expires at the end of the month and he can (legally) discuss terms with other clubs.
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby CitizenYank » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:22 am

Loved this part of Hughes press release: "I hope the supporters will understand that as a young, ambitious manager
I wish to move on to further my experiences," Hughes said.

Yeah, Mark, you need to head to a bigger club, bigger stadium, more money--and then it's Deja Vu all over
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Dameerto » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:24 am

CitizenYank wrote:Loved this part of Hughes press release: "I hope the supporters will understand that as a young, ambitious manager
I wish to move on to further my experiences," Hughes said.

Yeah, Mark, you need to head to a bigger club, bigger stadium, more money--and then it's Deja Vu all over
again!!


I believe he wants to go to a club with the potential (fanbase, facilities plus ownership) to challenge the top six, there are more juicy clubs he could walk into than the one he just left.
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby BobKowalski » Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:51 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:He is still a cunt though, you have to admit that?

I am softening on him after time has passed, but I would love to see the cunt at Chelsea....that would be funny.


Not really. Never was one of the 'Hughes Out/Hughes Bitters' crowd.

Surprised nobody's mentioned Chelsea until now: wasn't he considered by them before he came to us? Also, isn't he a Chelsea fan? I'd be really surprised if that's who they plumped for, though.


Yeah he was supposed to be very highly rated at Chelsea the summer he came to us, but I'd be amazed if they went with a British manager. Would be interesting to see how he would get on.....if the defence held up, he could play his suicide football and they would be good to watch.

Chelsea could do worse than Les.........would have liked to have seen what he could do with us with a decent defence in place


It was Peter Kenyon who floated the Hughes to Chelsea idea. This was when Kenyon was being frozen out by Roman and it was never a serious option any more than the Hughes to Bayern link when Van Gaal left earlier this year. Hughes was quoted as being flattered at the link to Bayern but it was PR fluff as Bayern already had the new manager lined up. Hughes does excel in the PR stakes as befits his status as the 'best young British manager' albeit the 'young' bit is starting to look a bit worn.

What I find slightly odd is why would Villa appoint Hughes? Appointing Hughes is not going to dissuade either Young or Downing from moving to clubs 'with ambition'. Appointing Hughes is at best going to have Villa slugging it out for 6th spot with Everton and Spurs.

Hughes is a mid level PL manager and appointing him just says that Villa are a mid level team and we have no aspirations to do any better. Hughes doesn't even have a reputation for winning cups - hell not even sure he has ever got a team to a final.

Still Hughes to Villa is good news for us so give him some cash and make it so Randy
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby zuricity » Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:32 pm

Well it's good to know that if Hughes goes to Chelsea, he'll have them in the bottom three by Christmas. He's good at that.
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Chinners » Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:44 pm

Is he? I don't remember Us, Blackburn or Fulham ever being in that position ....
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Slim » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:07 pm

Chinners wrote:Is he? I don't remember Us, Blackburn or Fulham ever being in that position ....


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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Slim » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:09 pm

Maybe not Christmas Day, but the day after they were.

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Re: Hughes quits

Postby walmai » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:26 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
walmai wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:They may have lost two good managers in twelve months, but at least they've got a garish statue of Michael Jackson.

Swings and roundabouts.


Is that on KFAQ days, or would you expand it into a Neverlandesque perma-structure?

Sounds, a bit off the wall.

Unless, you wanna be starting summat?


I've looked at this about ten times and I still have no idea what KFAQ stands for.


KFAQ = Kids for a quid - a ticket deal that gets used when The Goblins are trying to fill out the stadium.
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby wolfcity » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:11 pm

There's a theory being circulated that he took the Fulham job because he didn't want to be out of work at the start of the season. Taking over from a success like Roy Hodgson was a challenge but he gave them a good campaign to keep himself in the frame for a bigger Club. I'm still surprised he's left like he has but he'll surely be managing again by the time the 11/12 season commences. An agreement must have been made.
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:28 am

http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/69654 ... -name-boss

Probably the first time I've ever agreed with Mills. Hughes has such high opinion of himself and his "methods" that he has miscalculated the situation thinking one of the big boys would appoint him.

Although why is Mills now "former Manchester City hardman". He barely fucking played for us and just picked his paycheck.
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby jono1978 » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:43 am

Didn't know until now his agent is that kia joorabsian the same as tevez can see him getting a half decent post with that pirate pulling the strings .
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Re: Hughes quits

Postby Alioune DVToure » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:00 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/6965464/Mills-Blues-want-a-big-name-boss

Probably the first time I've ever agreed with Mills. Hughes has such high opinion of himself and his "methods" that he has miscalculated the situation thinking one of the big boys would appoint him.

Although why is Mills now "former Manchester City hardman". He barely fucking played for us and just picked his paycheck.


Hughes did better than OK at Blackburn (getting them into the top 6) and with Wales (getting to the playoff for Euro 2004). Regardless of how you interpret his time at City, both of those achievements by far outweighed expectations. He also took Fulham from 13th last season to 8th this season. The one aberration on his record is his first season at City, when we went from 9th to 10th. Everywhere else he's picked teams up and carried them forwards straight away.

As for Danny Mills, he should just shut up and fuck off. Forever. What a pointless, horrible bastard. Why do they keep digging him up for his opinion? He should be ashamed to be seen in public after his 'career' as a player.
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