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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby kinkylola » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:23 am

Rag_hater wrote:
guv111 wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:I find it odd that considering the media bias of apparent negativity that a lot keep spouting on here the sister channel of one of the supposed main perpetrators shows a program that shows us in a positive light.
Maybe it was rag propoganda and I missed it.



Is this your stock in trade, going on and on about how paranoid City fans are? It's all I've ever seen you write about on here.


Read some other stuff then because as with the paranioa stuff you are wrong.There is plenty of stuff I have opinions on and ain't shy to express


you're really fucking annoying.
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby Rag_hater » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:47 am

kinkylola wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
guv111 wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:I find it odd that considering the media bias of apparent negativity that a lot keep spouting on here the sister channel of one of the supposed main perpetrators shows a program that shows us in a positive light.
Maybe it was rag propoganda and I missed it.



Is this your stock in trade, going on and on about how paranoid City fans are? It's all I've ever seen you write about on here.


Read some other stuff then because as with the paranioa stuff you are wrong.There is plenty of stuff I have opinions on and ain't shy to express


you're really fucking annoying.


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However if any of you can get past having to tell me how daft I am could one of you explain why ITV put that program on?
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby s1ty m » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:27 am

There was not an updated ending and I've already seen it once. Enjoyable, but not a film worth watching twice, in my view.
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby guv111 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:28 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
guv111 wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:I find it odd that considering the media bias of apparent negativity that a lot keep spouting on here the sister channel of one of the supposed main perpetrators shows a program that shows us in a positive light.
Maybe it was rag propoganda and I missed it.



Is this your stock in trade, going on and on about how paranoid City fans are? It's all I've ever seen you write about on here.


Read some other stuff then because as with the paranioa stuff you are wrong.There is plenty of stuff I have opinions on and ain't shy to express


Guv, I strongly advise you not to follow this course of action.


The "Ignore" function on MCF will suffice.
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby Beeks » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:35 am

What really struck me about Blue Moon Rising is how dated it looks already

Amazing how much we have progressed even since two seasons ago
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby bobby brows » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:28 am

Can't wait for the sequel!

90 minutes of Gareth Barry in the Bellamy role telling the boys 'It's our time'

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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby ruralblue » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:37 am

Just sat watching it now, very good as it potrays the way the majority of us feel about City. Am glad they did it when they did rather than now as it will show how far we have come if and when they make another one :-)
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby Kladze » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:41 am

The one big surprise of watching it, for me, was how I had completely forgotten who had scored all three of our goals against the rags in the Carling Cup semi-final ;-)
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby AlpsMaster » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:50 am

s1ty m wrote:There was not an updated ending and I've already seen it once. Enjoyable, but not a film worth watching twice, in my view.


Surely the bit at the end about the FA Cup final and the 'stars' of the programme holding it on the pitch was an updated ending?

I really enjoyed watching the film and it did make a great night's TV after the game earlier (which I was glad to see on Peasants' TV for a change which took me completely by surprise as the Rags were playing that night too!)

The things that stood out for me were:

1. we do owe the players from that transistional season who have moved (Ade, Bellars, Given etc) a deal of thanks for taking us to the next level;

2. Bellamy assuming the role of the motivator in the dressing room but the reaction of the other players didn't look to me like his efforts were working and there was a glimpse I guess of how his influence made Mancini feel undermined;

3. even though the current debacle with Tevez is all his (and his camps') fault, it is sad to see how someone who was almost reaching legend status has ended up in this current mess - clearly this relationship is over but over time I hope we'll look back at films like this and remember the good times;

4. the effort Bobby made to learn English and how much progress he has made since - puts others to shame!

5. how passionate and committed Khladoon came across in his bits;

6. Overall though was how well they captured the highs and lows and hopes and fears of those typical supporters of City.

Well done to the club for producing this. Really looking forward to the sequel: The Blue Moon Has Risen !!!
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby Yffi_88 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:11 pm

I hope the next one can ECLIPSE the first...........................

ECLIPSE!!..... 'cause.......its like when.....

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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby bobby brows » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:19 pm

A high note for me was a rag from work caught doing airplanes at the city fans in the second leg of the semi!
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby Nige » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:26 pm

Thought it was shite.

Makes us like a bunch of dicks and how those guys are made out to be the only bunch of dedicated blues wound me up for some reason. I was so pissed off we lost that cup tie and a DVD reminder wasn't what I needed. I know that's the point... " so close yet so far" bollox. We should have made a film about actually being shit and losing at Oldham etc, not almost thinking we were as good as those Rag bastards. We are now tho, so lets see a sequel with some pub action rather than lounge scenes or clips form inside that fucking ugly people carrier.

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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby Nickyboy » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:40 pm

Rag_hater wrote:I find it odd that considering the media bias of apparent negativity that a lot keep spouting on here the sister channel of one of the supposed main perpetrators shows a program that shows us in a positive light.
Maybe it was rag propoganda and I missed it.


You obviously don't understand how the television advertising market works you daft cunt.

And how does ITV4 showing a docu-film about City prove that the perceived bias (of some fans) in the tabloid media doesn't exist?
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby Nickyboy » Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:49 pm

Rag_hater wrote:However if any of you can get past having to tell me how daft I am could one of you explain why ITV put that program on?


Commercial Television works by the broadcasters (in this case ITV) selling 'eyeballs' (or number of viewers) to advertising agencies. They also split this by certain demographics (ITV4's target demographic is 18-35 males).

By advertising this programme at the end of the city match on ITV1, that started straight after, ITV managed to get a ready made audience of 2m (ish) viewers to switch straight over to ITV4 to watch Blue Moon Rising. This provides around 2m 18-35 male eyeballs for the gillette/audi/carling (delete as appropriate) adverts that are on at the time, thus creating advertising revenue for ITV. Considering the slot average on ITV4 on a Wednesday night is about 200k viewers that is an extremely clever bit of broadcasting.

ITV4 didn't show the programme because they love City - it was a purely business / revenue decision.
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby freshie » Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:17 pm

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Read some other stuff then because as with the paranioa stuff you are wrong.There is plenty of stuff I have opinions on and ain't shy to express


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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby craigmcfc » Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:13 pm

Well I'm gonna be honest, I'd prejudged the group of City fans that they followed and wrongly assumed that they'd be complete tossers. They weren't. I thoroughly enjoyed the entire 2 hours and I also thought the bit at the end with the FA Cup was a really nice touch.
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby Rag_hater » Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:32 pm

Nickyboy wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:However if any of you can get past having to tell me how daft I am could one of you explain why ITV put that program on?


Commercial Television works by the broadcasters (in this case ITV) selling 'eyeballs' (or number of viewers) to advertising agencies. They also split this by certain demographics (ITV4's target demographic is 18-35 males).

By advertising this programme at the end of the city match on ITV1, that started straight after, ITV managed to get a ready made audience of 2m (ish) viewers to switch straight over to ITV4 to watch Blue Moon Rising. This provides around 2m 18-35 male eyeballs for the gillette/audi/carling (delete as appropriate) adverts that are on at the time, thus creating advertising revenue for ITV. Considering the slot average on ITV4 on a Wednesday night is about 200k viewers that is an extremely clever bit of broadcasting.

ITV4 didn't show the programme because they love City - it was a purely business / revenue decision.


Tell the daft cunt what is the negative of showing us in a positive light to going by your numbers 2mill people.2 mill people have seen good things about our club regardless of what advertising happened in the process.
ITV may not have shown the programme to show their love for us but the fact is it did for us what the sheikh pays for and got us publicised
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby Nickyboy » Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:58 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Nickyboy wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:However if any of you can get past having to tell me how daft I am could one of you explain why ITV put that program on?


Commercial Television works by the broadcasters (in this case ITV) selling 'eyeballs' (or number of viewers) to advertising agencies. They also split this by certain demographics (ITV4's target demographic is 18-35 males).

By advertising this programme at the end of the city match on ITV1, that started straight after, ITV managed to get a ready made audience of 2m (ish) viewers to switch straight over to ITV4 to watch Blue Moon Rising. This provides around 2m 18-35 male eyeballs for the gillette/audi/carling (delete as appropriate) adverts that are on at the time, thus creating advertising revenue for ITV. Considering the slot average on ITV4 on a Wednesday night is about 200k viewers that is an extremely clever bit of broadcasting.

ITV4 didn't show the programme because they love City - it was a purely business / revenue decision.


Tell the daft cunt what is the negative of showing us in a positive light to going by your numbers 2mill people.2 mill people have seen good things about our club regardless of what advertising happened in the process.
ITV may not have shown the programme to show their love for us but the fact is it did for us what the sheikh pays for and got us publicised


You asked someone to explain why ITV put the programme on, that I did, in a fair bit of detail I think.

It's got nothing to do with showing us in a positive or negative light. I don't personally see that there is a great deal of bias against us, all fans can highlight certain bias against their teams. However your previous comment about the fact they showed the programme proves that they're not against us was false - for the reasons already stated.
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby Rag_hater » Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:18 pm

Nickyboy wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Nickyboy wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:However if any of you can get past having to tell me how daft I am could one of you explain why ITV put that program on?


Commercial Television works by the broadcasters (in this case ITV) selling 'eyeballs' (or number of viewers) to advertising agencies. They also split this by certain demographics (ITV4's target demographic is 18-35 males).

By advertising this programme at the end of the city match on ITV1, that started straight after, ITV managed to get a ready made audience of 2m (ish) viewers to switch straight over to ITV4 to watch Blue Moon Rising. This provides around 2m 18-35 male eyeballs for the gillette/audi/carling (delete as appropriate) adverts that are on at the time, thus creating advertising revenue for ITV. Considering the slot average on ITV4 on a Wednesday night is about 200k viewers that is an extremely clever bit of broadcasting.

ITV4 didn't show the programme because they love City - it was a purely business / revenue decision.


Tell the daft cunt what is the negative of showing us in a positive light to going by your numbers 2mill people.2 mill people have seen good things about our club regardless of what advertising happened in the process.
ITV may not have shown the programme to show their love for us but the fact is it did for us what the sheikh pays for and got us publicised


You asked someone to explain why ITV put the programme on, that I did, in a fair bit of detail I think.

It's got nothing to do with showing us in a positive or negative light. I don't personally see that there is a great deal of bias against us, all fans can highlight certain bias against their teams. However your previous comment about the fact they showed the programme proves that they're not against us was false - for the reasons already stated.



I don't recall having being asked to be called a cunt so thanks for going to the trouble to do that.
Perhaps you could explain that why regardless of the fact that a commercial TV station advertises during a program how it is not benefical to us by the TV station showing a program that has things in it that our club wants the rest of the world to see.
To me the show portrayed us as being in touch with reality and if there was any negative bias intended by the TV company then I think they failed because that was not the impression that came across.
I think it is not important that the TV company made more money than they normally would have to me the fact that we got some positive publicity out of it was a price worth paying.
Did anything bad for our club result from ITV showing that program.
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Re: Bluemoon Rising

Postby Nickyboy » Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:25 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Nickyboy wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:
Nickyboy wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:However if any of you can get past having to tell me how daft I am could one of you explain why ITV put that program on?


Commercial Television works by the broadcasters (in this case ITV) selling 'eyeballs' (or number of viewers) to advertising agencies. They also split this by certain demographics (ITV4's target demographic is 18-35 males).

By advertising this programme at the end of the city match on ITV1, that started straight after, ITV managed to get a ready made audience of 2m (ish) viewers to switch straight over to ITV4 to watch Blue Moon Rising. This provides around 2m 18-35 male eyeballs for the gillette/audi/carling (delete as appropriate) adverts that are on at the time, thus creating advertising revenue for ITV. Considering the slot average on ITV4 on a Wednesday night is about 200k viewers that is an extremely clever bit of broadcasting.

ITV4 didn't show the programme because they love City - it was a purely business / revenue decision.


Tell the daft cunt what is the negative of showing us in a positive light to going by your numbers 2mill people.2 mill people have seen good things about our club regardless of what advertising happened in the process.
ITV may not have shown the programme to show their love for us but the fact is it did for us what the sheikh pays for and got us publicised


You asked someone to explain why ITV put the programme on, that I did, in a fair bit of detail I think.

It's got nothing to do with showing us in a positive or negative light. I don't personally see that there is a great deal of bias against us, all fans can highlight certain bias against their teams. However your previous comment about the fact they showed the programme proves that they're not against us was false - for the reasons already stated.



I don't recall having being asked to be called a cunt so thanks for going to the trouble to do that.
Perhaps you could explain that why regardless of the fact that a commercial TV station advertises during a program how it is not benefical to us by the TV station showing a program that has things in it that our club wants the rest of the world to see.
To me the show portrayed us as being in touch with reality and if there was any negative bias intended by the TV company then I think they failed because that was not the impression that came across.
I think it is not important that the TV company made more money than they normally would have to me the fact that we got some positive publicity out of it was a price worth paying.
Did anything bad for our club result from ITV showing that program.


I think we're at cross purposes. I never said that there is a negative bias. All I said was that it doesn't prove that there isn't one. Your question was why was it shown.

ITV would have shown the programme regardless. It could have shown Mancini to be an utter cock or it could have made out that the sun shined out of his arse. The only reason ITV showed it was for commercial reasons, not to show a negative or positive light on City.

I imagine it would have done our reputation more good than harm, as it is a very well made documentary / film.
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