1-6 was a wake up call - yeah yeah yeah

[Ted Hughes]

It's not complacency, it's optimism based on the evidence we've seen & the quality of players we have. If you showed the two teams' games so far to a football fan who's never seen the Prem before & asked them which team was going to win the league, they would say City. Of course it could go wrong but the assumption that it will go wrong because Utd have some kind of superhuman ability is bollocks. We have no reason to feel inferior to these people anymore, that was put to bed at the swamp.

If it goes wrong it will be down to us dropping our standards for whatever reason, not just for the odd game, but for a significant period of time. If we produce the standard we are setting now,for a decent part of the season, we are better than they are & probably better than they have ever been & win the league. It's in our hands.

It's up to us who wins the league, not up to them.

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

The title of The Beatles' lost classic

[Bridge'srightfoot]

I am very behind the team but I'm not getting carried away. Plenty of people seem to be writing United off which is a very foolish thing to do.

[Dameerto]

Just how much is down to other teams losing the title, rather than the RAGs winning it? Last season is a case in point. Chelsea imploded, the RAGs didn't come from behind with a superhuman feat of teamwork. Don't buy into the aura of invincibility or your'e fucled before you kick the ball.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Just how much is down to other teams losing the title, rather than the RAGs winning it? Last season is a case in point. Chelsea imploded, the RAGs didn't come from behind with a superhuman feat of teamwork.

It's also about whether the team will have the mentality, whether we'll still be able to grind out tough wins when the finishing line is insight. How many times have we seen Arsenal spectacularly fuck up great positions ? Or how about Liverpool a couple of seasons back? Last season being a prime example.

Exciting times definitely but a long, long way to go yet.

[Dameerto]

Just how much is down to other teams losing the title, rather than the RAGs winning it? Last season is a case in point. Chelsea imploded, the RAGs didn't come from behind with a superhuman feat of teamwork.

It's also about whether the team will have the mentality, whether we'll still be able to grind out tough wins when the finishing line is insight. How many times have we seen Arsenal spectacularly fuck up great positions ? Last season being a prime example.

Exciting times definitely but a long, long way to go yet.

I've seen enough in twelve games to know the answer. it's not like we're a handful of games into the season.

[brite blu sky]

In terms of City and the season it is all about squad, the strength we have in depth is really something. Even a glut of injuries wouldn't knock us out.
In relation to other teams i couldn't give a fucl. More important is to look at what we have to do. Title winners can 'afford' no more than about 3 or 4 losses and 4 or 5 draws. If City battle tooth and nail to win every game and get caught out only a few times they will be there abouts.
Other clubs managers and players have yet to figure out a way to play us.. so far QPR have had the best 'go' and by their managers own admission it was with a We are going to lose anyway lets have fun doing it.

Without the squad the main danger would be injuries or fatigue. With this squad they should be able to ride it.. so as mentioned before the main danger imo is themselves, Fulham was a wake up call and the attitude has hardened in response. It would be pretty safe to say it will happen again and they will slip up, yet it is also fairly safe to say that it will be the team's fault, not that they will have been outplayed, found out, or anything else.

All that is just talking of the team and squad and not taking Mancini into account and his drive to excell, if the players took their foot off the gas Bob will be down their throats.

Personally I wouldn't worry about the rags or any other team, the rags will be there abouts lingering like a scab that just wont drop off, but it won't matter if City keep driving themselves on.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Just how much is down to other teams losing the title, rather than the RAGs winning it? Last season is a case in point. Chelsea imploded, the RAGs didn't come from behind with a superhuman feat of teamwork.

It's also about whether the team will have the mentality, whether we'll still be able to grind out tough wins when the finishing line is insight. How many times have we seen Arsenal spectacularly fuck up great positions ? Last season being a prime example.

Exciting times definitely but a long, long way to go yet.

I've seen enough in twelve games to know the answer. it's not like we're a handful of games into the season.

You don't win titles in the first 12 games. It's when the going gets tough at the business end of the season when we'll really feel the pressure. We've also never had the experience of being in a title race in the PL. Not saying we can't do it but it's not going to be nearly as easy as some people think.

[Dameerto]

In terms of City and the season it is all about squad, the strength we have in depth is really something. Even a glut of injuries wouldn't knock us out.
In relation to other teams i couldn't give a fucl. More important is to look at what we have to do. Title winners can 'afford' no more than about 3 or 4 losses and 4 or 5 draws. If City battle tooth and nail to win every game and get caught out only a few times they will be there abouts.
Other clubs managers and players have yet to figure out a way to play us.. so far QPR have had the best 'go' and by their managers own admission it was with a We are going to lose anyway lets have fun doing it.

Without the squad the main danger would be injuries or fatigue. With this squad they should be able to ride it.. so as mentioned before the main danger imo is themselves, Fulham was a wake up call and the attitude has hardened in response. It would be pretty safe to say it will happen again and they will slip up, yet it is also fairly safe to say that it will be the team's fault, not that they will have been outplayed, found out, or anything else.

All that is just talking of the team and squad and not taking Mancini into account and his drive to excell, if the players took their foot off the gas Bob will be down their throats.

Personally I wouldn't worry about the rags or any other team, the rags will be there abouts lingering like a scab that just wont drop off, but it won't matter if City keep driving themselves on.

The only thing I'd disagree with (and it's not really a disagreement it's an addition) - is QPR, they played a cup final against us (like Blackpool last season) - I think the team that's given us the best lesson to learn from is Newcastle, playing with the confidence an unbeaten run gives and only letting in one goal from open play. We can learn a lot from that game and hopefully we will. (apart from City minus Silva equals not-as-good)

[Dameerto]

You don't win titles in the first 12 games. It's when the going gets tough at the business end of the season when we'll really feel the pressure. We've also never had the experience of being in a title race in the PL. Not saying we can't do it but it's not going to be nearly as easy as some people think.

I never said or implied that 12 games was enough to decide a title, but I implied that it's long enough to form opinions about the team's atitude to certain situations - and more importantly to how they respond to adversity (IE Bayern)

[dazby]

I still think Chelsea will be our nearest challengers.

[Esky]

I still think Chelsea will be our nearest challengers.

I think it's too early to count them out.

I think the first year I started properly watching football was the Keegan/Asprilla season where Newcastle let the 12 point lead slip. Chelsea won most of their first 12 of so games last season (and hit 6 goals a couple of times along the way). The scum will always be there, and they'll rally as they always to, so BRF has a fair point.

However, on current evidence, we're the favourites, and I'm loving every minute of that. All I wanted was to build on 3rd place last season - thrilled that we're on the way to that.

[ant london]

Bridgesrightfoot.....no joke my friend, it is no wonder you get some stick on here. I don't know if you are just young, naive, stupid or what but you post some utter utter nonsense.

I'm not surprised that a few have accused you of being a closet red as you frequently sound like one. I think you believe you are trying to take off any sky blue specs and see things with an impartial eye. Well, I guess the one thing you can be sure of is that you certainly offer zero in the way of pro-City bias. You strike me as someone who has taken an interest in City over the years but by no means a fan in the true sense of the word. No blue I have ever met would consistently come out with the borderline anti-City views you do....especially not at this, our most brilliant form in my 30 plus years of following City.

But back to your original point....NO-ONE has said we are going to win the title or that we will walk it or that United are out of it. ALL of us who are City fans know how things have gone wrong in the past and how we have managed to screw things up previously. If you seriously think that any proper City fan is counting his chickens then that, for me, really does show you up as not having a clue about how blues think or what makes most of us tick.

We all know that United have been there and done it. We all know that they are capable of late strong form. But to say that their form has been rejuvenated since the 1-6 is utter nonsense. Just have a look at the table. Sure the test will really come post Christmas but if you cannot genuinely see the clear weaknesses in their team and squad this season and contrast that with our strength in depth then you need to pay more attention to the action on the pitch and less to the tabloid media whose "party line" you appear to buy hook line and sinker.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Bridgesrightfoot.....no joke my friend, it is no wonder you get some stick on here. I don't know if you are just young, naive, stupid or what but you post some utter utter nonsense.

I'm not surprised that a few have accused you of being a closet red as you frequently sound like one. I think you believe you are trying to take off any sky blue specs and see things with an impartial eye. Well, I guess the one thing you can be sure of is that you certainly offer zero in the way of pro-City bias. You strike me as someone who has taken an interest in City over the years but by no means a fan in the true sense of the word. No blue I have ever met would consistently come out with the borderline anti-City views you do....especially not at this, our most brilliant form in my 30 plus years of following City.

But back to your original point....NO-ONE has said we are going to win the title or that we will walk it or that United are out of it. ALL of us who are City fans know how things have gone wrong in the past and how we have managed to screw things up previously. If you seriously think that any proper City fan is counting his chickens then that, for me, really does show you up as not having a clue about how blues think or what makes most of us tick.

We all know that United have been there and done it. We all know that they are capable of late strong form. But to say that their form has been rejuvenated since the 1-6 is utter nonsense. Just have a look at the table. Sure the test will really come post Christmas but if you cannot genuinely see the clear weaknesses in their team and squad this season and contrast that with our strength in depth then you need to pay more attention to the action on the pitch and less to the tabloid media whose "party line" you appear to buy hook line and sinker.

Not sure if I go against the grain of 'a proper City fan' or I'm just confident (an unusual thing for a Blue I know) but I really believe that we will win the league. I reckon 12 points is already too much for Chelsea to pull back and I see nothing in the present rag side that says they will sweep all before them. A threadbare squad, defensive problems and a lack of creation in midfield. Maybe Bacon can sort it out in the Jan transfer window, but that is a notoriously tricky time to bring in players.
But in the spirit of caution I shall say that if we emerge top on Dec 16th from this tricky run of fixtures then we'll win it.

And how's this for a bold statement? Spurs look the best bet to push us rather than where many think the threat will come from. They are on good form, playing decent togger and are better placed than Arse, Scouse or Chelsea to catch us. And I'd go as far as to say that we were better at White Hart Lane mauling them 5-1, than we were at The Sty.

[Evenmydoghatesunited]

Utterly delighted for Sluraleckshfergushon now I see Brand United are the team with the most clean sheets in the premier.

Well in the words of Josef Engels woopyfuckindoo and in the words of that other knight Bruce Forsyth points makes prizes.

[Original Dub]

You don't win titles in the first 12 games. It's when the going gets tough at the business end of the season when we'll really feel the pressure. We've also never had the experience of being in a title race in the PL. Not saying we can't do it but it's not going to be nearly as easy as some people think.

I never said or implied that 12 games was enough to decide a title, but I implied that it's long enough to form opinions about the team's atitude to certain situations - and more importantly to how they respond to adversity (IE Bayern)

You may as well be banging your head off the wall mate, this fella's a fucking retard.

Listen you fucking PLANK, nobody is getting complacent so stop trying to dampen spirits and keep your miserable shit to yourself.

You come out with more cliches than a manager's post match interview. You honestly sound like you were raised by pundits, not parents. Going on about how Liverpool and Arsenal fall away, but the mighty United have been there before blah blah blah.... well the fucking mighty Liverpool were there before too, until a team full of class came along and knocked them off their perch... Just like the mighty City now. You're better off checking at the end of the season to see where we finished and then throwing your little party I reckon...

Fuck off to SOLD Trafford and leave the rest of us who've been through years of shit to enjoy every record breaking match we play.

Thanks.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Back to the point of this thread? Well after losing 6-1 and being humiliated United went to Goodison and won, which is not easy at all. So in that respect yes it has been a wake up call to then.That's a sign of their character and we'd be wrong to dismiss their threat.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

You don't win titles in the first 12 games. It's when the going gets tough at the business end of the season when we'll really feel the pressure. We've also never had the experience of being in a title race in the PL. Not saying we can't do it but it's not going to be nearly as easy as some people think.

I never said or implied that 12 games was enough to decide a title, but I implied that it's long enough to form opinions about the team's atitude to certain situations - and more importantly to how they respond to adversity (IE Bayern)

You may as well be banging your head off the wall mate, this fella's a fucking retard.

Listen you fucking PLANK, nobody is getting complacent so stop trying to dampen spirits and keep your miserable shit to yourself.

You come out with more cliches than a manager's post match interview. You honestly sound like you were raised by pundits, not parents. Going on about how Liverpool and Arsenal fall away, but the mighty United have been there before blah blah blah.... well the fucking mighty Liverpool were there before too, until a team full of class came along and knocked them off their perch... Just like the mighty City now. You're better off checking at the end of the season to see where we finished and then throwing your little party I reckon...

Fuck off to SOLD Trafford and leave the rest of us who've been through years of shit to enjoy every record breaking match we play.

Thanks.

You're genuinely pathetic. Using all swear words on a forum to sound like such a 'tough' guy. Oh G-d help me. You're like a little kid, you just can't accept not ending the argument by throwing a tantrum.

[Original Dub]

You're genuinely pathetic. Using all swear words on a forum to sound like such a 'tough' guy. Oh G-d help me. You're like a little kid, you just can't accept not ending the argument by throwing a tantrum.

I'm perfectly calm, I just adore colourful language you cunt.

Your constant awe of united and lecturing city fans not to get excited is what is really pathetic you cretin.

I suppose we're not allowed to chant "the best team in the land and all the world" until we actually are then??

Fuck off.

[Chinners]

I always thought we were the best team in all the land and all the world ... in my head anyway so please do not shatter that particular bubble for me, ta