Cavani Vs Dzeko

[Dameerto]

One of the biggest differences is that Cavani doesn't get rotated (or rather he is under less pressure for his place in the team)

[Mase]

One of the biggest differences is that Cavani doesn't get rotated (or rather he is under less pressure for his place in the team)

Basically, you're trying to say Cavani is less lamppost like?

[Dameerto]

One of the biggest differences is that Cavani doesn't get rotated (or rather he is under less pressure for his place in the team)

Basically, you're trying to say Cavani is less lamppost like?

I thought my answer was quite explicit.

[Mase]

One of the biggest differences is that Cavani doesn't get rotated (or rather he is under less pressure for his place in the team)

Basically, you're trying to say Cavani is less lamppost like?

I thought my answer was quite explicit.

Mancini out??

[Dameerto]

Hughes in.

[Dameerto]

And Capello out - Pearce for England. (at least Micah might get a game)

[Mase]

Haha I like it!

[Ted Hughes]

Dzeko scores more goals against better players ?

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Dzeko's such an enigma. I've never known a player who can go from being so brilliant to utter shite and vice versa so quickly. That performance against Spurs was one of the best I've ever seen from a forward but his performance against Villereal was one of the worst! The problem is when he's bad, he's really, really bad and sticks out like a sore thumb. He'll score ridiculously good goals like against France and Spurs but then miss the easiest of chances.

[Blue Since 76]

Dzeko's such an enigma. I've never known a player who can go from being so brilliant to utter shite and vice versa so quickly. That performance against Spurs was one of the best I've ever seen from a forward but his performance against Villereal was one of the worst! The problem is when he's bad, he's really, really bad and sticks out like a sore thumb. He'll score ridiculously good goals like against France and Spurs but then miss the easiest of chances.

Agree. Whenever I start slagging him off he suddenly goes on a scoring run. I then think I've been too harsh and he turns back into an expensive Corradi without the effort. Got to be a mental thing with him but god knows how you cure it.

[Ted Hughes]

Dzeko's such an enigma. I've never known a player who can go from being so brilliant to utter shite and vice versa so quickly. That performance against Spurs was one of the best I've ever seen from a forward but his performance against Villereal was one of the worst! The problem is when he's bad, he's really, really bad and sticks out like a sore thumb. He'll score ridiculously good goals like against France and Spurs but then miss the easiest of chances.

The service Dzeko got v Napoli was fucking dire. He wasn't very good but I don't see why he is being singled out, nobody else was very good either. Helayed off a few nice touches & fucked a few things up, just like Mario did, but not quite as badly. If he'd been given the same two passes as Cavani scored from the result would probably have been the same & if it had been Dzeko running at Kolarov rather than Hamsik, we would have probably lost by more goals. Napoli or Cavani & Co don't play like that every week, they raised their game in the same way ours dropped.

Dzeko didn't miss an open net with a simple header that I would have scored, Balotelli did. If Balotelli had misseed that last season, he'd be impaled on a spike in Beswick now but he's flavour of the month so it's ok.

It was a bad tactical mistake starting both Dzeko & Balotelli in that game. That's not Dzeko's fault.

[Hazy2]

dzeko needs service Cavani needs a stage to show his ability, to types of players Cavani, also has a number 10 who like Tevez is very up for it and likes a scrap and sees the big picture see the cut back for the second won it and picked a pass of class. Lavezzi makes Cavani's game, Cavani is like a Young Drogba.

[guv111]

Dzeko's such an enigma. I've never known a player who can go from being so brilliant to utter shite and vice versa so quickly. That performance against Spurs was one of the best I've ever seen from a forward but his performance against Villereal was one of the worst! The problem is when he's bad, he's really, really bad and sticks out like a sore thumb. He'll score ridiculously good goals like against France and Spurs but then miss the easiest of chances.

The service Dzeko got v Napoli was fucking dire. He wasn't very good but I don't see why he is being singled out, nobody else was very good either. Helayed off a few nice touches & fucked a few things up, just like Mario did, but not quite as badly. If he'd been given the same two passes as Cavani scored from the result would probably have been the same & if it had been Dzeko running at Kolarov rather than Hamsik, we would have probably lost by more goals. Napoli or Cavani & Co don't play like that every week, they raised their game in the same way ours dropped.

Dzeko didn't miss an open net with a simple header that I would have scored, Balotelli did. If Balotelli had misseed that last season, he'd be impaled on a spike in Beswick now but he's flavour of the month so it's ok.

It was a bad tactical mistake starting both Dzeko & Balotelli in that game. That's not Dzeko's fault.

Maybe it's time to resurrect the Adam Johnson and Nigel de Jong threads?

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Dzeko's such an enigma. I've never known a player who can go from being so brilliant to utter shite and vice versa so quickly. That performance against Spurs was one of the best I've ever seen from a forward but his performance against Villereal was one of the worst! The problem is when he's bad, he's really, really bad and sticks out like a sore thumb. He'll score ridiculously good goals like against France and Spurs but then miss the easiest of chances.

The service Dzeko got v Napoli was fucking dire. He wasn't very good but I don't see why he is being singled out, nobody else was very good either. Helayed off a few nice touches & fucked a few things up, just like Mario did, but not quite as badly. If he'd been given the same two passes as Cavani scored from the result would probably have been the same & if it had been Dzeko running at Kolarov rather than Hamsik, we would have probably lost by more goals. Napoli or Cavani & Co don't play like that every week, they raised their game in the same way ours dropped.

Dzeko didn't miss an open net with a simple header that I would have scored, Balotelli did. If Balotelli had misseed that last season, he'd be impaled on a spike in Beswick now but he's flavour of the month so it's ok.

It was a bad tactical mistake starting both Dzeko & Balotelli in that game. That's not Dzeko's fault.

I just think Balotelli's more versatile and gives more to the team. He can drop deep, go wide, pull off he main striker and can play upfront on his own. He's also (last night apart) a very reliable finisher. Dzeko can be incredibly good, no doubting that but the team has to be set up just right to get the best out of him. Against Spurs when we got the ball into the box from wide areas with good quality he was fantastic.

[leewonpen]

I have always stuck up for Dzeko and always will.I like him and hell come good.We just dont play to his strengths. If he leaves us he'd be quality for another team.What pisses me off though is that he fuckin huge and I want him to terrify centre halfs. Last night his defender dominated him and the home match. Someone in thisthread said he was like Duncan Ferguson.I wish,he'd terrify any defender and have them for breakfast. If I was Bobby M I would demand he was more aggressive on the pitch.

[Ted Hughes]

I agree with both of you, he can do better. I gave him a slaughtering myself v Villareal when I thought he played like a shithouse but I'm just making the point that imo Dzeko was no further below standard than anyone else last night. He would have scored the tap in that Mario scored & probably kept us in the competition if it was him who had the late header rather than Mario.

The mistake was playing both of them in this game when they have barely ever started together. Bob sometimes likes to make off the cuff changes in big games & often gets it wrong when he does. This one plus playing Kolo at Bayern are as much to blame for the results as the players imo.

[dazby]

I think Cavani v Aguero is a better comparison. I take Aguero.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Dzeko is a strange one. I've always maintained that strikers are judged by their goal scoring record and nowt else. We loved Goater, but let's be honest, he had no touch, vision or pace, just the happy knack of being in the right place at the right time. Dzeko's stats in this area stand up to scrutiny. So why do I still think he looks like he has two left feet? Not convinced.

[Mase]

I agree that Dzeko played no worse than any one else on Tuesday. However, Balo was getting himself in to goalscoring chances but still having by his standards a relatively poor game. I don't care what type of forward Dzeko is, he wasn't getting himself in to goal scoring chances which is his job. Just because it's not put on a plate for him, that's no excuse.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

It doesn't have to be put on a plate for him. It just has to get to him quicker. By the time we moved the ball into the final third they had everyone back defending restricting any space in the box. The lack of urgency through the team is one of the main reasons we lost the other night imo. It was like watching some of last season's fuck ups all over again, our play was that lethargic in the second half allowing them time to regroup after their counters.