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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby Chinners » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:46 pm

halnone wrote:Whatever the kit looks like it will surely look better than the new rag, arse, and Barcelona ones for next season. They look shit. Glad we dont have Nike.


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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby King Kev » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:19 pm

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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby DoomMerchant » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:22 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
dario2739 wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
http://bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/Club/MCFCKitHistory.aspx

The home kit before the first Kappa one.

Plus the other two kits I mentioned previously.


apart from the reebok home shirt I previously mentioned, the others were all navy blue trim or shields. We need to firmly established our identity around the world - City wear sky blue shirt with white trim


unfortunately my old kits are packed away in the attic somewhere


surely the authorities have ransacked all of your residences current and previous by now, no? I'm sure they've laid their hands on those kits.

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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby john68 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:01 pm

I am quite happt to consider there has been a seamless link between Manchester City...through several name changes...back to St Marks. In fact I positively celebrate it.
I am quite happy to have black on a City shirt and if some way was found to stylistically intergrate the Maltese coss, I would be happy with that too.

I am very unhappy that the club commemorates our origins as 1894....Our heritage is a proud one and should not be denied.

BTW, City wore black and red quite proudly as an away shirt a number of times.
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby dario2739 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:13 pm

john68 wrote:I am quite happt to consider there has been a seamless link between Manchester City...through several name changes...back to St Marks. In fact I positively celebrate it.
I am quite happy to have black on a City shirt and if some way was found to stylistically intergrate the Maltese coss, I would be happy with that too.

I am very unhappy that the club commemorates our origins as 1894....Our heritage is a proud one and should not be denied.

BTW, City wore black and red quite proudly as an away shirt a number of times.


Key word there being 'away'. - I have no problem with red/black stripes (introduced by Malcolm Allison reputedly based on AC Milan), maroon (a colour with more tradition as our away), purple, white, navy blue, black, yellow or even orange as an away kit.
However - yes we all know our origins can be traced back to Gorton St. Marks but from them and Ardwick emerged a new club - Manchester City... that, ladies and gentlemen is who we are. We will never forget where we came from but Manchester City have NEVER played in black and traditionally our colours are Skyblue shirts with white trim - i'm not even a fan of navy blue on our trim!
I also think the black outlined badge sounds naff too - we had a similar effect on the white le Coq away shirt, and I wasn't keen on that, but at least it was an away shirt!
I just look forward now to watching Umbro's video of some pretentious twat telling us how history has inspired the shirt... if it turns out to be true!
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby john68 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:45 pm

A serious ques
I don't understand why you are so insistant about the1894 change being the definitive date we should consider is the origin of our club and that club colours should be only considered from that date.

!894 was only the last of several name changes for the club.
Whilst we were recreated as a new company at that point, we have been recreated as a new company a number of times since.

Whilst it was an important date, we had already been members of and comopeted in the Football League for 2 years previously.
We remained at Hyde Road, a ground we had already occupied for a number of prior seasons.
Changes to those who ran the club were far less than the changes from the Wardle...Shinawatra...Sheik Mansour versions of our club.
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby Mike J » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:00 am

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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby dario2739 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:00 am

Hmmm... well I suppose the year that the Club itself recognises as the year of it's inception is good enough for me!
Gary James is the man to definitively answer that I suppose.
It's most likely that the merging into City wasn't straight forward - how it came about is not the key issue - it's that we formed into Manchester City (at the date the club recognise) and upon doing so we adopted the Sky Blue and White colours (which Ardwick had previously worn as halved shirts) - end of story really! Yes we formed from Gorton St. Marks - and we will not forget that heritage but we have never worn their colours as a club - why do it now? If we want to commemorate it have it as an away kit.
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby john68 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:16 am

Unlike you Mate, I have great difficulty accepting the date accepted by the club as the year of our inception as some on here will be able to confirm
In fact, I think the club's acceptance of that date is an insult to those who dreamed of a football club, not only realised that dream but took it from a rat infested slum into the Football League, in a few short years.

Whilst I acknowledge the role played in saving our club in 1894 by the likes of Joshua Parlby, we would not now have a club but for those who preceeded him.
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby dario2739 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:51 am

john68 wrote:Unlike you Mate, I have great difficulty accepting the date accepted by the club as the year of our inception as some on here will be able to confirm
In fact, I think the club's acceptance of that date is an insult to those who dreamed of a football club, not only realised that dream but took it from a rat infested slum into the Football League, in a few short years.

Whilst I acknowledge the role played in saving our club in 1894 by the likes of Joshua Parlby, we would not now have a club but for those who preceeded him.


Why are you so hung up on the date? So what if the actual year is debateable - the end result is that Gorton St. Marks & Ardwick became Manchester City - and upon doing so adopted sky blue and white shirts as their colours - no black!
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby john68 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:36 am

I think I explaned my reasons quite adequately regarding the recognition of the good efforts of those who worked to form and build the club.
May I now reverse the question? Why are you so hung up on the colour and so hung up on denying the colour black from the kit and our formation from our history?

Just asking
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby Rag_hater » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:17 am

I dont care that much what our shirt looks like.As long as people can tell its us I think your'e never gonna please everybody so black on it for a few years to me is not such a big deal.To me if there are some years you think its great and some years you think it's shit all the better.
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby dario2739 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:28 pm

john68 wrote:I think I explaned my reasons quite adequately regarding the recognition of the good efforts of those who worked to form and build the club.
May I now reverse the question? Why are you so hung up on the colour and so hung up on denying the colour black from the kit and our formation from our history?

Just asking


You explained about the good efforts of those who worked to build the club - I don't see how the year tarnishes that in anyway? The club - especially of late with the history walks - are proud of our roots. But they are just that. If you actually read every one of my posts I don't deny our origin or the fact that Gorton wore black but follow this closely now... that was Gorton NOT Manchester City.
I'm all for an away kit to commemorate our origins - but as Man City, now a rising global force in football we have to firmly establish our identity... which is and ALWAYS HAS BEEN sky blue shirts with white trim.
I can't see why everyone's so hung up on adding a colour to our shirts that City have never been associated with, just because one of the teams that went into our formation wore it! What shall we wear next year? Blue and White stripes because Ardwick wore that strip?

Yes I appreciate everyone's efforts in forming this great club of ours - but that's just what they did... Formed MANCHESTER CITY who have always wore sky blue and white! I can't put it any clearer than that!
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby john68 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:48 pm

Dario,
The question isn't really why we should wear black but why you insist we shouldn't. It is quite plain in the long evolution of our club and the seemless movement of playing staff, mamagement and administrators that St Marks WERE Manchester City. The one and only club, seperated only by a superficial name change.

I don't insist that we should wear black but question why the fucl we shouldn't if we so choose.

On the subject of City tours, although the guide was experienced and a lovely bloke, his level of knowledge regarding City's heritage was extremely poor, as is City's regard to our heritage,which is almost shameful.
It is no wonder that we are charged with having no history. It is an area the club has negelected for years. In the main, it has been left to outsiders and writers like Gary James to do the legwork and research and even bring our history to the public arena.
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby dario2739 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:36 pm

Why shouldn't we wear black..? Because we never have - how hard is that to grasp?
Yes, yes, yes, yes I know Gorton St. Marks wore black but WE ARE NOT Gorton St. Marks! We owe them our origins but we became City and adopted our colours.
So I say we shouldn't suddenly add a colour to our shirts that doesn't belong there - it may as well be pink, red or green!

There you go - in a nutshell I am against Black trim because it isn't part of Manchester City's colours... I don't even like navy blue trim on our shirts!
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby john68 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:55 pm

I well understand your argument and always did, Manchester City only existed from 1894. Anything that happened prior to that, other than an acknowledgement to our origins, has no relevence to our present.
Should we also expunge the 2 seasons played as Ardwick AFC from our League record?
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby Rag_hater » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:58 pm

dario2739 wrote:Why shouldn't we wear black..? Because we never have - how hard is that to grasp?
Yes, yes, yes, yes I know Gorton St. Marks wore black but WE ARE NOT Gorton St. Marks! We owe them our origins but we became City and adopted our colours.
So I say we shouldn't suddenly add a colour to our shirts that doesn't belong there - it may as well be pink, red or green!

There you go - in a nutshell I am against Black trim because it isn't part of Manchester City's colours... I don't even like navy blue trim on our shirts!


Don't get it then,get it when it goes back to being something that pleases you.What about the people who do like the black trim?Why can't things change?
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby john68 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:05 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
dario2739 wrote:Why shouldn't we wear black..? Because we never have - how hard is that to grasp?
Yes, yes, yes, yes I know Gorton St. Marks wore black but WE ARE NOT Gorton St. Marks! We owe them our origins but we became City and adopted our colours.
So I say we shouldn't suddenly add a colour to our shirts that doesn't belong there - it may as well be pink, red or green!

There you go - in a nutshell I am against Black trim because it isn't part of Manchester City's colours... I don't even like navy blue trim on our shirts!


Don't get it then,get it when it goes back to being something that pleases you.What about the people who do like the black trim?Why can't things change?


Please tell me this can't be happening....I am agreeing with Rag Hater.....:-). Why can't things change? They did then.
Where's my tablets?
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Re: New home kit rumour for 12/13

Postby Wonderwall » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:14 pm

john68 wrote:
Please tell me this can't be happening....I am agreeing with Rag Hater.....:-). Why can't things change? They did then.
Where's my tablets?
Just saying....:-)


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