Bellamy's Goal last night

[Socrates]

"Bellamy doesn't need..." It's not about what Bellamy needs, it's about what the manager needs and the manager doesn't need an alternate power source disrupting his team. End of story, no mistake made.

It's about whatever pile of shite you characters can invent as the latest reason for him being kicked out. You'll invent something else if this one gets contradicted, like all the others. Perhaps if he gets injured we can dredge that old chestnut back up again..or accuse him of engineering a move to Spurs.

I'm only stating the absolutely fucking obvious. It is clear Mancini doesn't want Bellers around, the reasons couldn't be more clear, nothing new about it and all your fucking whinging and whining doesn't change anything one iota. Get over it.

[Ted Hughes]

"Bellamy doesn't need..." It's not about what Bellamy needs, it's about what the manager needs and the manager doesn't need an alternate power source disrupting his team. End of story, no mistake made.

It's about whatever pile of shite you characters can invent as the latest reason for him being kicked out. You'll invent something else if this one gets contradicted, like all the others. Perhaps if he gets injured we can dredge that old chestnut back up again..or accuse him of engineering a move to Spurs.

I'm only stating the absolutely fucking obvious. It is clear Mancini doesn't want Bellers around, the reasons couldn't be more clear, nothing new about it and all your fucking whinging and whining doesn't change anything one iota. Get over it.

I am over it. I just like reminding you lot of all the bullshit you spread. I don't like people making up random stories to destroy the repuation of a player held in high esteem by the vast majority of City fans, just because they don't like him.

I think it was a mistake. Then I see all you Bellamy hating characters who appear from beyond the grave to try & further your ridiculous arguments with yet another fabricared story every time he proves yet another one wrong. You can't let it go without slagging him again. I had to read all the utter shite you lot came out with including saying he was finished 18 months ago, he planned all along to move to his boyhood club rather than play in the Prem, (Cardiff ffs!!), he's in league with Harry Redknapp, he wouldn't be good enough, he wouldn't be fit because his training is all wrong, he's a bad influence (presumably on Tevez) all unsubstantiated bollocks.

I'm delighted with City's squad but would be more delighted if had Bellamy in it.

If you can't handle that; tough. Get as wound up as you want, I don't want to stop you.

[Socrates]

"Bellamy doesn't need..." It's not about what Bellamy needs, it's about what the manager needs and the manager doesn't need an alternate power source disrupting his team. End of story, no mistake made.

It's about whatever pile of shite you characters can invent as the latest reason for him being kicked out. You'll invent something else if this one gets contradicted, like all the others. Perhaps if he gets injured we can dredge that old chestnut back up again..or accuse him of engineering a move to Spurs.

I'm only stating the absolutely fucking obvious. It is clear Mancini doesn't want Bellers around, the reasons couldn't be more clear, nothing new about it and all your fucking whinging and whining doesn't change anything one iota. Get over it.

I am over it. I just like reminding you lot of all the bullshit you spread. I don't like people making up random stories to destroy the repuation of a player held in high esteem by the vast majority of City fans, just because they don't like him.

I think it was a mistake. Then I see all you Bellamy hating characters who appear from beyond the grave to try & further your ridiculous arguments with yet another fabricared story every time he proves yet another one wrong. You can't let it go without slagging him again. I had to read all the utter shite you lot came out with including saying he was finished 18 months ago, he planned all along to move to his boyhood club rather than play in the Prem, (Cardiff ffs!!), he's in league with Harry Redknapp, he wouldn't be good enough, he wouldn't be fit because his training is all wrong, he's a bad influence (presumably on Tevez) all unsubstantiated bollocks.

I'm delighted with City's squad but would be more delighted if had Bellamy in it.

If you can't handle that; tough. Get as wound up as you want, I don't want to stop you.

Not remotely a random story, Hughes said what he said about Bellamy, it was clear Bellamy and Mancini cannot work together, how that destroys anyone I have no fucking idea? I happen to like Bellamy, admire very much what he does in Sierra Leone and was happy for City to be part of that but if he and the way Mancini works are incompatible then it is utterly pointless thinking he should be at the club! My explanation is certainly more plausible and kinder to Bellamy than the official line of him not being fit enough. That was implausible!

[mcfc1632]

It's actually laughable that you think we should have kept Bellamy. He should never have been signed by Hughes and now they are both gone and City are top of the league playing the best football i have ever seen them play. I've been watching City for fifty years or more. Bellamy is more trouble than he is worth. A journeyman footballer

Utter bollocks. I wasn't happy when we were signing Bellamy as all I'd really seen were the media snipes. And I wasn't alone.
He never gave anything less than 100% for us and won the fans over. He fell out with Mancini over the training. In the last interview I saw with Mancini he admitted he'd got training wrong initially with the double sessions which were too much for this league.

Bellamy would offer us a lot at the moment, starting occasional games and being available on the bench for others. Privately, I suspect Mancini knows he made a mistake in getting rid of him even if he'd never admit it.

I absolutely agree with the bit of your last sentence that I have highlighted - and absolutely disagree with the 2nd part.

Bellers was under contract with CITY and being very very well rewarded. What CITY the CLUB - MANCINI the MANAGER and people like YOU and ME the FANS needed (not just this season but last season as well) was a player available to do exactly what you identify to be something he is/was highly capable of providing. He had a complete and utter duty and responsibility as an employee and a supposed professional to give those 3 parties exactly that.

Everyone should cut through all the rose-tinted bollocks and recognise that he simply refused to perform those duties and discharge his professional responsibilities just because he was a gobby petulant twat (in that immediate post-Hughes period).

Frankly he had no right to behave in such a self-serving and petulant fashion. He has cost us points last season that could have seen us perhaps challenge for the title, options this season that could see us competing on even more fronts and £millions in subsidised wages and value.

Did Manicnin not have a lot to deal with when he first arrived? - his position was not as comfortable as it is now - why the fuck should he take that challenge (that defeated many other managers) on???

Get the rosy glasses on and lay the blame for his lack of availability and the serious cost(s) to us of this exactly where it belongs - at his petulant feet

[Ted Hughes]

It's actually laughable that you think we should have kept Bellamy. He should never have been signed by Hughes and now they are both gone and City are top of the league playing the best football i have ever seen them play. I've been watching City for fifty years or more. Bellamy is more trouble than he is worth. A journeyman footballer

Utter bollocks. I wasn't happy when we were signing Bellamy as all I'd really seen were the media snipes. And I wasn't alone.
He never gave anything less than 100% for us and won the fans over. He fell out with Mancini over the training. In the last interview I saw with Mancini he admitted he'd got training wrong initially with the double sessions which were too much for this league.

Bellamy would offer us a lot at the moment, starting occasional games and being available on the bench for others. Privately, I suspect Mancini knows he made a mistake in getting rid of him even if he'd never admit it.

I absolutely agree with the bit of your last sentence that I have highlighted - and absolutely disagree with the 2nd part.

Bellers was under contract with CITY and being very very well rewarded. What CITY the CLUB - MANCINI the MANAGER and people like YOU and ME the FANS needed (not just this season but last season as well) was a player available to do exactly what you identify has something highly desirable. He had a complete and utter duty and responsibility as an employee and a supposed professional to give those 3 parties exactly that.

Everyone should cut through all the rose-tinted bollocks and recognise that he simply refused to perform those duties and discharge his professional responsibilities just because he was a gobby petulant twat (in that immediate post-Hughes period).

Frankly he had no right to behave in such a self-serving and petulant fashion. He has cost us points last season that could have seen us perhaps challenge for the title, options this season that could see us competing on even more fronts and £millions in subsidised wages and value.

Did Manicnin not have a lot to deal with when he first arrived? - his position was not as comfortable as it is now - why the fuck should he take that challenge (that defeated many other managers) on???

Get the rosy glasses on and lay the blame for his lack of availability and the serious cost(s) to us of this exactly where it belongs - at his petulant feet

Once again, opinion disgused as fact.

[mcfc1632]

Sorry Ted - we will have to agree to disagree. It is all about opinions on here and yours are just as valuable as anyone elses (perhaps more so than a lot) - but also equally vulnerable to being presented as representing facts whereas those of others do not.

What is a fact (IMO) is that Bellers was under contract and well renumerated by CITY and he had a professional responsibility to discharge his contracted responsibilities. In your determination to paint him in the positive light are you just saying that Mancini arrived with a pure hatred of the player and victimised him for some personal reason? Are you suggesting that Bellers was absolutely not 'awkward' / 'a nuisance' or some other such description of someone not knuckling down to discharge their professional duties - which included taking direction from the appointed manager of the club's owners?

I gusess all the very many reports about him 'making representations to management', 'being disruptive', 'declining training' and many others such examples were made up my an equally 'anti-Bellers' and 'pro-CITY/Mancini' media? - and this has been the case for the poor lad throughout his entire career. Or perhaps some people have good reason to draw some conclusions.

The truth is that the 'facts' will likely not explicitly come out for some time - but can you not allow some of us to err on the side of what seems to be a lot of compelling circumstantial evidence?? If you look at it from the outside is not your view that this was mainly down to Mancini just a bit too blinkered? At that time Mancini had a lot to take on and deal with - Bellers had 1 thing - to knuckle down and deliver for the new manager.

He clearly did not do that and from that we ended up without the opportunity to utilise a valuable club resource. I for one feel that I have seen and heard sufficient circumstantial evidence to lay some blame at Bellers feet.

[Hazy2]

It's actually laughable that you think we should have kept Bellamy. He should never have been signed by Hughes and now they are both gone and City are top of the league playing the best football i have ever seen them play. I've been watching City for fifty years or more. Bellamy is more trouble than he is worth. A journeyman footballer

Utter bollocks. I wasn't happy when we were signing Bellamy as all I'd really seen were the media snipes. And I wasn't alone.
He never gave anything less than 100% for us and won the fans over. He fell out with Mancini over the training. In the last interview I saw with Mancini he admitted he'd got training wrong initially with the double sessions which were too much for this league.

Bellamy would offer us a lot at the moment, starting occasional games and being available on the bench for others. Privately, I suspect Mancini knows he made a mistake in getting rid of him even if he'd never admit it.

I absolutely agree with the bit of your last sentence that I have highlighted - and absolutely disagree with the 2nd part.

Bellers was under contract with CITY and being very very well rewarded. What CITY the CLUB - MANCINI the MANAGER and people like YOU and ME the FANS needed (not just this season but last season as well) was a player available to do exactly what you identify has something highly desirable. He had a complete and utter duty and responsibility as an employee and a supposed professional to give those 3 parties exactly that.

Everyone should cut through all the rose-tinted bollocks and recognise that he simply refused to perform those duties and discharge his professional responsibilities just because he was a gobby petulant twat (in that immediate post-Hughes period).

Frankly he had no right to behave in such a self-serving and petulant fashion. He has cost us points last season that could have seen us perhaps challenge for the title, options this season that could see us competing on even more fronts and £millions in subsidised wages and value.

Did Manicnin not have a lot to deal with when he first arrived? - his position was not as comfortable as it is now - why the fuck should he take that challenge (that defeated many other managers) on???

Get the rosy glasses on and lay the blame for his lack of availability and the serious cost(s) to us of this exactly where it belongs - at his petulant feet

Once again, opinion disgused as fact.

Ted, Mario is more of a problem than Ade, Tevez or Bellers, thing is RM has like with Savic a stubborm streak enough said. Lets hope we can harness Mario.

[Ted Hughes]

Mario is a unique player who can win any game. There will come a point though, where he has to keep himself on the pitch & performing or Bob will eventually look elsewhere.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Mario is a unique player who can win any game. There will come a point though, where he has to keep himself on the pitch & performing or Bob will eventually look elsewhere.

Agreed,,,,,,if he wins us a few matches between now and the end of the season that gets us the title then he will have been worth every penny and every misdemeanour's....if he gets sent off again I think that will seal it... ref's fault or not.

[bigblue]

Look at City with Bellamy 1.5 years ago. Look at City now.

Other than personally liking the guy, how can you possibly justify letting Bellamy go as a bad decision? Are we doing worse in the league? scoring less goals? Do we have a worse team spirit? Do our players not have as much respect for our manager? Have we not won anything in the past year? Do we look less likely to win a trophy this year?

Arguing that Bellamy should be in the team over Mario is the very definition of delusional. Mario is 21 years old and one of the top players in the world. Bellamy is 32 and good, but would never be mentioned with the world's best (no matter how much you admire his commitment or work rate).

Said it before, but this moaning that we should have kept players who had a good season or two a few years ago is just bizarre. As a club, we are an order of magnitude better (in every aspect, from the executives to the coaching staff to the players) than we were a few years go. Maybe we're improving so fast that some of you nostalgic fucks just can't keep up

[Ted Hughes]

Look at City with Bellamy 1.5 years ago. Look at City now.

Other than personally liking the guy, how can you possibly justify letting Bellamy go as a bad decision? Are we doing worse in the league? scoring less goals? Do we have a worse team spirit? Do our players not have as much respect for our manager? Have we not won anything in the past year? Do we look less likely to win a trophy this year?

Arguing that Bellamy should be in the team over Mario is the very definition of delusional. Mario is 21 years old and one of the top players in the world. Bellamy is 32 and good, but would never be mentioned with the world's best (no matter how much you admire his commitment or work rate).

Said it before, but this moaning that we should have kept players who had a good season or two a few years ago is just bizarre. As a club, we are an order of magnitude better (in every aspect, from the executives to the coaching staff to the players) than we were a few years go. Maybe we're improving so fast that some of you nostalgic fucks just can't keep up

Nobody is saying Bellamy should be in the team over Mario you fucking prune. Not anybody. Why don't you at least argue with what people are saying rather than inventing your own script & arguing with it ?

[bigblue]

Look at City with Bellamy 1.5 years ago. Look at City now.

Other than personally liking the guy, how can you possibly justify letting Bellamy go as a bad decision? Are we doing worse in the league? scoring less goals? Do we have a worse team spirit? Do our players not have as much respect for our manager? Have we not won anything in the past year? Do we look less likely to win a trophy this year?

Said it before, but this moaning that we should have kept players who had a good season or two a few years ago is just bizarre. As a club, we are an order of magnitude better (in every aspect, from the executives to the coaching staff to the players) than we were a few years go. Maybe we're improving so fast that some of you nostalgic fucks just can't keep up

Nobody is saying Bellamy should be in the team over Mario you fucking prune. Not anybody. Why don't you at least argue with what people are saying rather than inventing your own script & arguing with it ?

Even though I do believe some have been hinting at the fact that Bellamy should be in the team over Mario, I'll take out the middle paragraph to appease you. Getting into he said/she said is boring.

So do you bother to reply to the other 75% of the post, or do you just like to focus on minor semantics rather than responding to what people say?

[Blue Since 76]

I absolutely agree with the bit of your last sentence that I have highlighted - and absolutely disagree with the 2nd part.

Bellers was under contract with CITY and being very very well rewarded. What CITY the CLUB - MANCINI the MANAGER and people like YOU and ME the FANS needed (not just this season but last season as well) was a player available to do exactly what you identify to be something he is/was highly capable of providing. He had a complete and utter duty and responsibility as an employee and a supposed professional to give those 3 parties exactly that.

Everyone should cut through all the rose-tinted bollocks and recognise that he simply refused to perform those duties and discharge his professional responsibilities just because he was a gobby petulant twat (in that immediate post-Hughes period).

Frankly he had no right to behave in such a self-serving and petulant fashion. He has cost us points last season that could have seen us perhaps challenge for the title, options this season that could see us competing on even more fronts and £millions in subsidised wages and value.

Did Manicnin not have a lot to deal with when he first arrived? - his position was not as comfortable as it is now - why the fuck should he take that challenge (that defeated many other managers) on???

Get the rosy glasses on and lay the blame for his lack of availability and the serious cost(s) to us of this exactly where it belongs - at his petulant feet

As I recall, the arguments started over Bellamy refusing to train twice a day due to his knees. He'd apparently come up with a training regime which allowed him to manage the problems. Mancini saw that as a challenge to his authority and wouldn't have it.

As two fiery characters, I suspect that a sensible conversation didn't happen and they both became rather stubborn. As I said, Mancini has since accepted that his initial training regime was inappropriate for English football, however, Bellamy's training may still not be what he wants. The fact remains that Bellamy could have done a job for us on the pitch. Whether he'd have caused too much friction in the dressing room is open for debate, but he's a winner and I don't think Mancini would have a problem with that.

Bellamy probably was gobby and petulant when Mancini first arrived but he obviously liked Hughes, who Mancini stabbed in the back. Don't get me wrong, I wanted Hughes out many months before, but the way it was played out wasn't great PR and by talking to a club who still had a manager, Mancini knew what he was doing. He was therefore always likely to walk into a dressing room where some people would not be glad to see him. He had to exert his authority and an argument with Bellamy was/is always likely. But I still think if he'd have handled it differently, he could have kept his authority whilst keeping a very useful player.

Fiery, likely to start an argument in an empty room, opinion on everything, pain in the arse to manage, thinks he knows best, won't listen to reason, perfectionist, winner. Could be a description of Bellamy, but covers everything you'll ever read about Mancini as a player. Perhaps they were too alike.

[mcfc1632]

People mention comparisons with Balo - why - that is the soft option for the apologists for Bellers.

More relevant for me would be Sergio. I was so concerned over the potential for 'knock-on' issues afer the Tevez stuff with Segio becoming an issue - instead waht a role model!!!!

Should we, the club, the manager and the fans, not have had a right to expect a player (Tevez, Ade or Bellers) to respond in a similar fashion to unwelcome news as Sergio did??

Imagine if we still had such players putting in comparable effort to Sergio - for the simple reason that that is what they are paid very well to do!!!

I personally think that we might have won the league last year (or come closer) and be in for more trophies this year.

[mcfc1632]

I absolutely agree with the bit of your last sentence that I have highlighted - and absolutely disagree with the 2nd part.

Bellers was under contract with CITY and being very very well rewarded. What CITY the CLUB - MANCINI the MANAGER and people like YOU and ME the FANS needed (not just this season but last season as well) was a player available to do exactly what you identify to be something he is/was highly capable of providing. He had a complete and utter duty and responsibility as an employee and a supposed professional to give those 3 parties exactly that.

Everyone should cut through all the rose-tinted bollocks and recognise that he simply refused to perform those duties and discharge his professional responsibilities just because he was a gobby petulant twat (in that immediate post-Hughes period).

Frankly he had no right to behave in such a self-serving and petulant fashion. He has cost us points last season that could have seen us perhaps challenge for the title, options this season that could see us competing on even more fronts and £millions in subsidised wages and value.

Did Manicnin not have a lot to deal with when he first arrived? - his position was not as comfortable as it is now - why the fuck should he take that challenge (that defeated many other managers) on???

Get the rosy glasses on and lay the blame for his lack of availability and the serious cost(s) to us of this exactly where it belongs - at his petulant feet

As I recall, the arguments started over Bellamy refusing to train twice a day due to his knees. He'd apparently come up with a training regime which allowed him to manage the problems. Mancini saw that as a challenge to his authority and wouldn't have it.

As two fiery characters, I suspect that a sensible conversation didn't happen and they both became rather stubborn. As I said, Mancini has since accepted that his initial training regime was inappropriate for English football, however, Bellamy's training may still not be what he wants. The fact remains that Bellamy could have done a job for us on the pitch. Whether he'd have caused too much friction in the dressing room is open for debate, but he's a winner and I don't think Mancini would have a problem with that.

Bellamy probably was gobby and petulant when Mancini first arrived but he obviously liked Hughes, who Mancini stabbed in the back. Don't get me wrong, I wanted Hughes out many months before, but the way it was played out wasn't great PR and by talking to a club who still had a manager, Mancini knew what he was doing. He was therefore always likely to walk into a dressing room where some people would not be glad to see him. He had to exert his authority and an argument with Bellamy was/is always likely. But I still think if he'd have handled it differently, he could have kept his authority whilst keeping a very useful player.

Fiery, likely to start an argument in an empty room, opinion on everything, pain in the arse to manage, thinks he knows best, won't listen to reason, perfectionist, winner. Could be a description of Bellamy, but covers everything you'll ever read about Mancini as a player. Perhaps they were too alike.

Do not diasagree with any/much of that............., but

A key comment is that please do not think that ant new manager coming in has not been previously approached. It is is highly proefessional for the execs (in this case Cook/Khaldoon) to arrange replacement before sacking the old manager. It is the same in every walk of business life - and football is no different. I cannot possibly see how this could even be suggested to be remotely a negative against Mancini - let alone a 'stab in the back'.

But the key point for me is that at that time irrepsective of if you had 2 fiery personalities - 1 was paid to get a grip of the squad and organise for a challenge on CL and then onwards and upwards and 1 was paid to play football as instructed by whichever manager the clus had appointed - so 1 clearly did their job and 1 clearly did not (IMO)

[bigblue]

I cannot possibly see how this could even be suggested to be remotely a negative against Mancini - let alone a 'stab in the back'.

And Hughes just did the same thing to Warnock at QPR. Happens all the time, and the only people who complain about it are the managers who are bitter from being sacked

[Blue Since 76]

Do not diasagree with any/much of that............., but

A key comment is that please do not think that ant new manager coming in has not been previously approached. It is is highly proefessional for the execs (in this case Cook/Khaldoon) to arrange replacement before sacking the old manager. It is the same in every walk of business life - and football is no different. I cannot possibly see how this could even be suggested to be remotely a negative against Mancini - let alone a 'stab in the back'.

But the key point for me is that at that time irrepsective of if you had 2 fiery personalities - 1 was paid to get a grip of the squad and organise for a challenge on CL and then onwards and upwards and 1 was paid to play football as instructed by whichever manager the clus had appointed - so 1 clearly did their job and 1 clearly did not (IMO)

Getting rid of Hughes was the right thing and making sure you have someone lined up was the right thing as well. Otherwise you end up like Bolton, being publicly refused by everyone. I suspect we'd have got a lot of grief regardless, but I do think we (Cook) handled it very badly at the time.

As for Bellamy, as I said I think the arguments were about training and medical treatment. Even under Mancini, I don't think you could say Bellamy gave anything less than he could

[Blue Since 76]

People mention comparisons with Balo - why - that is the soft option for the apologists for Bellers.

More relevant for me would be Sergio. I was so concerned over the potential for 'knock-on' issues afer the Tevez stuff with Segio becoming an issue - instead waht a role model!!!!

Should we, the club, the manager and the fans, not have had a right to expect a player (Tevez, Ade or Bellers) to respond in a similar fashion to unwelcome news as Sergio did??

Imagine if we still had such players putting in comparable effort to Sergio - for the simple reason that that is what they are paid very well to do!!!

I personally think that we might have won the league last year (or come closer) and be in for more trophies this year.

Don't know how well Sergio and Tevez get on though. Can't knock Sergio, but he may have thought Tevez was a twat before this even started.

As for bad news, you can say the same of any employee, no matter how well paid. However, people don't like change. It's human nature and even on £200k a week, it'll bother some more than others.

[Ted Hughes]

Look at City with Bellamy 1.5 years ago. Look at City now.

Other than personally liking the guy, how can you possibly justify letting Bellamy go as a bad decision? Are we doing worse in the league? scoring less goals? Do we have a worse team spirit? Do our players not have as much respect for our manager? Have we not won anything in the past year? Do we look less likely to win a trophy this year?

Said it before, but this moaning that we should have kept players who had a good season or two a few years ago is just bizarre. As a club, we are an order of magnitude better (in every aspect, from the executives to the coaching staff to the players) than we were a few years go. Maybe we're improving so fast that some of you nostalgic fucks just can't keep up

Nobody is saying Bellamy should be in the team over Mario you fucking prune. Not anybody. Why don't you at least argue with what people are saying rather than inventing your own script & arguing with it ?

Even though I do believe some have been hinting at the fact that Bellamy should be in the team over Mario, I'll take out the middle paragraph to appease you. Getting into he said/she said is boring.

So do you bother to reply to the other 75% of the post, or do you just like to focus on minor semantics rather than responding to what people say?

Because I've already dealt with it over the posts I've made on here, etc etc etc probably going back before you even joined & have listened to every argument known to man, other than 'Bob made a mistake' which I think, is the case.

But it's a no win situation; if you give your opinion & speak your mind pro Bellamy, you are somehow disloyal & want Bob/Balotelli/ who the fuckever sacking . That's bollox in the extreme, I wouldn't swap Bob for any manager on earth right now & if I had to choose between him & Bellamy, I'd back Bob every time but he dropped a bollock back then over Bellamy IMO.

He's dropped a bollock over loads of other things too imo, as has Ferguson, Mourinho, Guardioala, Busby, Allison, Mercer, and god knows who. Managers make mistakes frequently. Bob has proved himself one of the best, & may end up THE best. He's still wrong about Belamy IMO. If evidence rather than schoolgirl tittle tattle rumour comes to pass in the future, which suggests Bellamy was a complete disruptive twat, I will hold my hands up & aknowledge it.

Until that is proven, he is a City hero to me & I wish we still had him as 4th striker.

[Hazy2]

Look at City with Bellamy 1.5 years ago. Look at City now.

Other than personally liking the guy, how can you possibly justify letting Bellamy go as a bad decision? Are we doing worse in the league? scoring less goals? Do we have a worse team spirit? Do our players not have as much respect for our manager? Have we not won anything in the past year? Do we look less likely to win a trophy this year?

Said it before, but this moaning that we should have kept players who had a good season or two a few years ago is just bizarre. As a club, we are an order of magnitude better (in every aspect, from the executives to the coaching staff to the players) than we were a few years go. Maybe we're improving so fast that some of you nostalgic fucks just can't keep up

Nobody is saying Bellamy should be in the team over Mario you fucking prune. Not anybody. Why don't you at least argue with what people are saying rather than inventing your own script & arguing with it ?

Even though I do believe some have been hinting at the fact that Bellamy should be in the team over Mario, I'll take out the middle paragraph to appease you. Getting into he said/she said is boring.

So do you bother to reply to the other 75% of the post, or do you just like to focus on minor semantics rather than responding to what people say?

Because I've already dealt with it over the posts I've made on here, etc etc etc probably going back before you even joined & have listened to every argument known to man, other than 'Bob made a mistake' which I think, is the case.

But it's a no win situation; if you give your opinion & speak your mind pro Bellamy, you are somehow disloyal & want Bob/Balotelli/ who the fuckever sacking . That's bollox in the extreme, I wouldn't swap Bob for any manager on earth right now & if I had to choose between him & Bellamy, I'd back Bob every time but he dropped a bollock back then over Bellamy IMO.

He's dropped a bollock over loads of other things too imo, as has Ferguson, Mourinho, Guardioala, Busby, Allison, Mercer, and god knows who. Managers make mistakes frequently. Bob has proved himself one of the best, & may end up THE best. He's still wrong about Belamy IMO. If evidence rather than schoolgirl tittle tattle rumour comes to pass in the future, which suggests Bellamy was a complete disruptive twat, I will hold my hands up & aknowledge it.

Until that is proven, he is a City hero to me & I wish we still had him as 4th striker.

I would back Bob when he is wrong he the manager, and he is wrong on this as he is applying rules for certain players which in the end ties him to previous judgements, The problem is PLayers hate this, agents like Kia, the snake and most other agents bend the ears of club owners and bang on about poor treatment of there cash cow, players have support in the dressing room, Even Bellers and even dare I mention CT.