POLL - Who thinks we need Tevez to win the league?

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

So far 59% of members would be open to us finding a way to make it work (I'm in that group myself, for pragmatic rather than emotional reasons).

Didn't expect the number to be so high.

He can go on all he likes about winning the fans back over, but he'll only win this one back over when he apologises to the boss and accepts responsibility for the whole mess.

I don't get how you come up with 59%. As far as I can see 25% are straight open for him to come back and rest are either against it or willing to just see what Mancini decides.

[Nutzer]

I'm sure I remember reading that a member of a club's squad has to play in a certain number of matches in a season. If they don't then they can demand a transfer. Sadly I can't remember how many matches and the details of the transfer, it might even be a free. I don't know if being AWOL for several months, thereby being unavailable for selection, will count against a player.

But if he makes himself fit enough for selection but can't be played cos of his attitude to Bobby / the rest of the players / the club, then he won't make that number. I bet that's what the sneaky toerag and his Svengali mentor are trying to do.

[Original Dub]

Take note OD and you other fickle people !

I have given my opinion on this, so no amount of you trying to tell me how it should be is gonna work.

IF he can help us win the league then play him and then fuck him off. If we are flying off into the distance then leave him sit in the reserves. I personally don't think we'll see the cunt on the pitch again, so this will probably be irrelevant...

But IF needed we should use every tool we have to win this league. Once we win the league we're gonna see exactly what we all dreamt this club would become.

Tevez will be brushed to one side if he's not needed and even if he is, will be brushed to one side permanently when we're done with him.

And I'm comfortable with that irrespective of whether or not you are.

[Alioune DVToure]

So far 59% of members would be open to us finding a way to make it work (I'm in that group myself, for pragmatic rather than emotional reasons).

Didn't expect the number to be so high.

He can go on all he likes about winning the fans back over, but he'll only win this one back over when he apologises to the boss and accepts responsibility for the whole mess.

I don't get how you come up with 59%. As far as I can see 25% are straight open for him to come back and rest are either against it or willing to just see what Mancini decides.

Only the three 'NO' options count as unequivocal, outright NO answers. If you're happy to go along with what the club decides, then you would entertain the thought of him pulling on a City shirt again.

Clearer?

[sheblue]

Look.....if Tevez was in the squad/team playing at his full ability we would be 9 points clear now. He was joint top scorer last season and we were not as offensive in 10/11 as we are this season.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

So far 59% of members would be open to us finding a way to make it work (I'm in that group myself, for pragmatic rather than emotional reasons).

Didn't expect the number to be so high.

He can go on all he likes about winning the fans back over, but he'll only win this one back over when he apologises to the boss and accepts responsibility for the whole mess.

I don't get how you come up with 59%. As far as I can see 25% are straight open for him to come back and rest are either against it or willing to just see what Mancini decides.

Only the three 'NO' options count as unequivocal, outright NO answers. If you're happy to go along with what the club decides, then you would entertain the thought of him pulling on a City shirt again.

Clearer?

Yes, kind of. I voted that I'd be willing to go with whatever Club decides. Doesn't mean I'd be happy about it or cheer him but if Mancini really genuinely felt he would find a way to use Tevez as positive force then that's up to him.

Having said all that, I don't think he will ever play for us again. He is already mouthing off and he isn't even back in Manchester.

[Beefymcfc]

Anybody venture on any other clubs forums, just wondering what they are making of it?

[Im_Spartacus]

Anybody venture on any other clubs forums, just wondering what they are making of it?

A few rags i know were having a laugh about it on fb, till one of their more sensible raggy mates pointed out that he is still a world class player, and that it was in fact bad for them because Tevez will now have to prove to the world he is fit, and that is bad for any of city;s opposition and rivals

[Beefymcfc]

Anybody venture on any other clubs forums, just wondering what they are making of it?

A few rags i know were having a laugh about it on fb, till one of their more sensible raggy mates pointed out that he is still a world class player, and that it was in fact bad for them because Tevez will now have to prove to the world he is fit, and that is bad for any of city;s opposition and rivals

I think most sensible people will see it like that whereas others will just use it to try and take the piss. I've only talked to a Hammer this morning and he seemed full of forgiveness. Couldn't take him too seriously to be honest, given his allegiance.

[Original Dub]

I'm not entirely confident with our ability to CHANGE a game at the minute when we need to. As I've said several times already, I don't think he will play for us again or not in any meaningful capacity; but IF he comes on and changes a game here and there when it looked like we were running into a brick wall then it will have been worth letting him back in. Of course it will.

If he's brought on to change a game here and there and does fuck all, then he won't play again.

One way or the other, he's gone in the summer, but he's ours for now to use in our favour if/when needed. To not use him because of how much of a cunt he is off the pitch is not something I support.

[beehive's dodgy pint]

I have not posted on here for quite sometime but, quite obviously, this is a rather important issue at a rather important time of the season for us. I have read, with interest, all the posts from blues on here which range from those being relatively forgiving to those ready to invade pitches dismembering Tevez. I can see that the majority, however, have a great fear that whatever is decided this whole issue has resurfaced when we could most do without it. The issue is not one which impacts upon a select few in our beloved club. We all have a vested interest in this. It strikes at the very heart of our principles and beliefs and could have a profound impact upon, what could possibly be, the best season most of us have known.

In life change and disruption, more often than not, leads to difficulties and weakened performance. Having Tevez return now, after all that has been said and done will inevitably cause some sort of disruption. This will manifest itself in the team, management, media and with supporters. If I know City, and I do know City (40+ years of support) we are not great at engendering stability or managing disruption. This whole thing has the potential to blow up and wreck our season. For me we need to keep Tevez and his circus away from the squad, the club and the fans. We are top of the league, have one of our most influential players back in Yaya and need to trust in what has been built up since Tevez abandoned us. Like a first love who dumps you, slags you off, shags about and then asks to come back when she has had her fill of freedom you have to be strong, tell her to fuck off, try to get your own back and move on. The option of dismembering her naked corpse and sending body parts in the post to her parent's property in Hampshire can also not be ruled out.

[Im_Spartacus]

^^^^agree with most of this pal, but surely you see that City have to play the game from the perspective of the legal issues which are lilkely to arise. Ultimately, if Tevez says that he wants to come back, there is very little the club can do about it. Mancini can treat him like a child (or a dog) and throw him in the reserves, but the point will come when he has match fitness, and it will be very difficult legally for Mancini to leave him out (or at least off the bench) without opening a can of worms.

Kia is a tricky, devious cunt, and if Tevez is going back, it is not for the love of Manchester City or the love of football, it is because there is a plan afoot to make a claim on Manchester City, and if we step out of line we will be in court so fucking fast for his contract to be cancelled.

This is why I trust that the club will make the right decisions, some of which may not make sense to us at the time. But when he is gone, I am pretty sure it will come out in the wash soon after.

Who knows, after this episode and the lack of people willing to pay his wages, he may, for once have genuine regret and spend the rest of his career here. Fucking doubt it though.

[Ted Hughes]

I have not posted on here for quite sometime but, quite obviously, this is a rather important issue at a rather important time of the season for us. I have read, with interest, all the posts from blues on here which range from those being relatively forgiving to those ready to invade pitches dismembering Tevez. I can see that the majority, however, have a great fear that whatever is decided this whole issue has resurfaced when we could most do without it. The issue is not one which impacts upon a select few in our beloved club. We all have a vested interest in this. It strikes at the very heart of our principles and beliefs and could have a profound impact upon, what could possibly be, the best season most of us have known.

In life change and disruption, more often than not, leads to difficulties and weakened performance. Having Tevez return now, after all that has been said and done will inevitably cause some sort of disruption. This will manifest itself in the team, management, media and with supporters. If I know City, and I do know City (40+ years of support) we are not great at engendering stability or managing disruption. This whole thing has the potential to blow up and wreck our season. For me we need to keep Tevez and his circus away from the squad, the club and the fans. We are top of the league, have one of our most influential players back in Yaya and need to trust in what has been built up since Tevez abandoned us. Like a first love who dumps you, slags you off, shags about and then asks to come back when she has had her fill of freedom you have to be strong, tell her to fuck off, try to get your own back and move on. The option of dismembering her naked corpse and sending body parts in the post to her parent's property in Hampshire can also not be ruled out.

If it was my choice, Tevez would be fucked off never to return. However I'll back what Bob decides. I feel sure Bob will take the feelings of the players into consideration & if the atmosphere would be hostile, I don't think he would bring him back in. Imo, footballers are shallow as piss, so they'll just accept it with a shrug of the shoulders, ask him how the golf has been going & carry on. Characters like, Mick Doyle, Summerbee, Bellamy, Keane etc would speak up, but we don't have players like that, apart from Tevez.

For what it's worth, I think our attack has gone stale & having Tevez around, even if he doesn't kick a ball, may just jolt them back into life.

[Original Dub]

If it was my choice, Tevez would be fucked off never to return. However I'll back what Bob decides. I feel sure Bob will take the feelings of the players into consideration & if the atmosphere would be hostile, I don't think he would bring him back in. Imo, footballers are shallow as piss, so they'll just accept it with a shrug of the shoulders, ask him how the golf has been going & carry on. Characters like, Mick Doyle, Summerbee, Bellamy, Keane etc would speak up, but we don't have players like that, apart from Tevez.

For what it's worth, I think our attack has gone stale & having Tevez around, even if he doesn't kick a ball, may just jolt them back into life.

Well one thing that I'm certainly not worried about is the other players shunning him or becoming distracted. As you said, footballers are shallow fucks and 99% of the time they will not condemn a team mate... Certainly not because of the love of the club they play for.

IF he can help, then I'm all for it before we fuck him off. If he can't then I'm all for him not coming near the first team before we fuck him off.

He's already fucked us over and he's definitely leaving so I'll never support him personally again. But I'm not gonna get any lore upset than I already have been IF he can help us win the league.

[Ted Hughes]

If it was my choice, Tevez would be fucked off never to return. However I'll back what Bob decides. I feel sure Bob will take the feelings of the players into consideration & if the atmosphere would be hostile, I don't think he would bring him back in. Imo, footballers are shallow as piss, so they'll just accept it with a shrug of the shoulders, ask him how the golf has been going & carry on. Characters like, Mick Doyle, Summerbee, Bellamy, Keane etc would speak up, but we don't have players like that, apart from Tevez.

For what it's worth, I think our attack has gone stale & having Tevez around, even if he doesn't kick a ball, may just jolt them back into life.

Well one thing that I'm certainly not worried about is the other players shunning him or becoming distracted. As you said, footballers are shallow fucks and 99% of the time they will not condemn a team mate... Certainly not because of the love of the club they play for.

IF he can help, then I'm all for it before we fuck him off. If he can't then I'm all for him not coming near the first team before we fuck him off.

He's already fucked us over and he's definitely leaving so I'll never support him personally again. But I'm not gonna get any lore upset than I already have been IF he can help us win the league.

We have to trust Bob's judgement on this but from my own personal point of view, if Tevez does get on the pitch, even if he's not fit, it will be obvious from his body language whether he's serious about playing or not. If he means business it will be plain for all to see. Whether that comes from a hatred of Bob or a sense of injustice doersn't matter. If he pulls his tripe out to win points if/when Bob uses him, it may push the team to another level. If he sulks, he'll be out on his arse before the 90 mins is up; Bob will take him back off.

[Alioune DVToure]

I have not posted on here for quite sometime but, quite obviously, this is a rather important issue at a rather important time of the season for us. I have read, with interest, all the posts from blues on here which range from those being relatively forgiving to those ready to invade pitches dismembering Tevez. I can see that the majority, however, have a great fear that whatever is decided this whole issue has resurfaced when we could most do without it. The issue is not one which impacts upon a select few in our beloved club. We all have a vested interest in this. It strikes at the very heart of our principles and beliefs and could have a profound impact upon, what could possibly be, the best season most of us have known.

In life change and disruption, more often than not, leads to difficulties and weakened performance. Having Tevez return now, after all that has been said and done will inevitably cause some sort of disruption. This will manifest itself in the team, management, media and with supporters. If I know City, and I do know City (40+ years of support) we are not great at engendering stability or managing disruption. This whole thing has the potential to blow up and wreck our season. For me we need to keep Tevez and his circus away from the squad, the club and the fans. We are top of the league, have one of our most influential players back in Yaya and need to trust in what has been built up since Tevez abandoned us. Like a first love who dumps you, slags you off, shags about and then asks to come back when she has had her fill of freedom you have to be strong, tell her to fuck off, try to get your own back and move on. The option of dismembering her naked corpse and sending body parts in the post to her parent's property in Hampshire can also not be ruled out.

Did the inspiration for your username come from the toxicology report on the death of Amy Winehouse?

[Beefymcfc]

I have not posted on here for quite sometime but, quite obviously, this is a rather important issue at a rather important time of the season for us. I have read, with interest, all the posts from blues on here which range from those being relatively forgiving to those ready to invade pitches dismembering Tevez. I can see that the majority, however, have a great fear that whatever is decided this whole issue has resurfaced when we could most do without it. The issue is not one which impacts upon a select few in our beloved club. We all have a vested interest in this. It strikes at the very heart of our principles and beliefs and could have a profound impact upon, what could possibly be, the best season most of us have known.

In life change and disruption, more often than not, leads to difficulties and weakened performance. Having Tevez return now, after all that has been said and done will inevitably cause some sort of disruption. This will manifest itself in the team, management, media and with supporters. If I know City, and I do know City (40+ years of support) we are not great at engendering stability or managing disruption. This whole thing has the potential to blow up and wreck our season. For me we need to keep Tevez and his circus away from the squad, the club and the fans. We are top of the league, have one of our most influential players back in Yaya and need to trust in what has been built up since Tevez abandoned us. Like a first love who dumps you, slags you off, shags about and then asks to come back when she has had her fill of freedom you have to be strong, tell her to fuck off, try to get your own back and move on. The option of dismembering her naked corpse and sending body parts in the post to her parent's property in Hampshire can also not be ruled out.

Did the inspiration for your username come from the toxicology report on the death of Amy Winehouse?

Inspirational? Sounds more like the reality of a pub in Droylsden, plenty of dodgy pints in there.

[Offerton blue]

I voted towing the clubs stance if they deem it right for him to come back into the fold well thats fine by me.Personally i dont want him anywhere nearer to our club than Buenos fucking Aries.

Fuck him off, who's to say he won't do it again ? And £250000 a week would you say no to your boss ???

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Just say he came back, played brilliantly and started scoring goals left right and centre (like he did the last two seasons) would we still want him out in the summer?

[Lee_R]

Right.. still bitter about Tevez and what he did.. and I admit I'm as fickle as most fans. BUT.. why do I feel excited about the prospect of him enhancing our team and us winning the league.. and why am I looking forward to him playing against the rags and scoring against them?

The fact why were so god damn angry is because we loved him so much, if it was Wayne Bridge we wouldnt have been that arsed obviously. I think the best thing to do is have faith in Mancini and then see if Carlos really does want to earn the fans back.

If we boo Carlos then were playing the rest of this season with 10 players (occasionally). We need to all pull together for the club and let Mancini pick the team. We can win it this year with or without Tevez.. but not if were going to boo a player in a blue shirt. Lets not blow it lads.