Mancini

[Grob]

Over rotated? Are you kidding? The problem is he hasn't rotated enough.

I agree. Some players he has rotated for the sake of rotation (Clichy and Kolorov sticks out like a sore thumb here), others he flogged to death during the first half of the season and then they started to struggle (Silva, Aguero). I find his rotations to be ill thought out and with no real purpose apart from to give players a game (Johnson and Milner).

What he does rotate all too regulally is formation and tactics. Often these days I look at the starting 11 and think, well, this 11 should win the game on paper, then we come out in a formation in which the players look like strangers, we go in at HT at 0-0, then change it up in the second half and improve enough to eek out a result. Or not as most of our away games atest.

We've seen players subbed for tactical reasons in the first half far too often. It must have happend 3 or 4 times. Once a season is barely acceptable to me. Do we not prepare properly??

Tactically Mancini has been out thought by perceived lesser lights away from home. Moyes and Rodgers made us look decidedly ordinary in the away fixtures to these teams where we couldnt even grind out a point from each. Its not like these were isolated incidents, these are 2 fixtures that have been part of shocking run of away form from a squad that is by far the strongest in the league, which started all the way back on boxing day.

I look at the players individual performances and there is no-one who has performed better or even at the same level as they did over the first 19 or 20 games. Not a single player can you say that they have improved as the season went on. Yaya is the only player you could say he come anywhere near to his early season form since his return from ACON.

I look at the players currently and none of them are playing anywhere near their best. This is the crucial part of the season and we are stumbling towards the finishing line in second place in a championship race that on paper we should have had sewn up by now.

Mancini hasnt consistantly got the best out of his players for a while. We are actually getting worse! I'm sure Khaldoon will be asking him why. His response may determine whether he keeps his job or not.

[Im_Spartacus]

It requires too much effort to do it for 90 mins, you have to pick your moment.

It's not really the same kind of football we played at the start of the season though tbf, although it's the same pace, well even quicker at times, sometimes direct, it's just fantastic all out attack. The earlier stuff was often relying on Silva (or Nasri) to see runners & produce magic which opened teams up. Silva can't see anything at the moment & is utter shite, but when he goes off, we are finding a way of creating chances from sheer weight of attacking numbers (plus Tevez of course) & defenders are finding it impossible to keep out. We couldn't do anything without Silva for the 1st half of the season. This is a big plus.

If we could add say Hazard or similar, and a back to form Silva to this, we would be incredible.

The moment was after half time yesterday, get the tempo up for 10 mins or so to stamp our mark on the game. Either the players werent able to - which i dont believe, the players werent told to, or the players didnt rise to Mancinis inspirational team talk.

We came out and started the 2nd half in the same pedestrian manner we played the first half. The most disappointing thing for me is that teams have counter attacked us for goals in the last 4 games in the league, and the most annoying thing is that at the time we conceded, we shouldnt have been vulnerable to a counter because all our defenders were in place, and we were only playing the ball around just inside their half at the time we lost it - it wasnt as though the oppo goal was under seige, when you can almost accept a counter attacking goal.

It was unforgiveable to come out for that 2nd half the way we did, and mancini for me gets the blame 100%

The pattern of our play has been all too predictable for far too long now, and whilst the comebacks show fortitude, i believe mancini is now holding us back again, as he did all too often earlier in his tenure. He has a lot to answer for with our form since xmas, and i dont think he has the answers the fans or the owners will be looking for

[Rag_hater]

http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/mario-balotelli-car-park-video-was-secret-test-from-manchester-ci

Seems like Bobby's plan did not work.There seems to be a theme developing here.

[Blue Since 76]

It requires too much effort to do it for 90 mins, you have to pick your moment.

It's not really the same kind of football we played at the start of the season though tbf, although it's the same pace, well even quicker at times, sometimes direct, it's just fantastic all out attack. The earlier stuff was often relying on Silva (or Nasri) to see runners & produce magic which opened teams up. Silva can't see anything at the moment & is utter shite, but when he goes off, we are finding a way of creating chances from sheer weight of attacking numbers (plus Tevez of course) & defenders are finding it impossible to keep out. We couldn't do anything without Silva for the 1st half of the season. This is a big plus.

If we could add say Hazard or similar, and a back to form Silva to this, we would be incredible.

Didn't mean for 90 minutes, but it would be nice to do it occasionally before we are a couple of goals down. Arsenal a few years ago (under Royle then Keegan) put 4 past us in the first 20 minutes. After that it was a training game for them. If we started like we finish, we could rest Aguero, Silva etc by taking them off after an hour

[Blue Since 76]

Just finally calmed down enough to watch MOTD. Mancini should be sacked for his reaction to their third goal and especially our second. He's paid to manage the side, not sit there, with 5 minutes to go and the team needing a goal, shaking his head, clearly with the belief that we're not good enough. The fans thought we were in with a chance, the players thought we were in with a chance and the manager didn't. Disgrace.

[Beefymcfc]

Just finally calmed down enough to watch MOTD. Mancini should be sacked for his reaction to their third goal and especially our second. He's paid to manage the side, not sit there, with 5 minutes to go and the team needing a goal, shaking his head, clearly with the belief that we're not good enough. The fans thought we were in with a chance, the players thought we were in with a chance and the manager didn't. Disgrace.

Who's next?

[bigblue]

Just finally calmed down enough to watch MOTD. Mancini should be sacked for his reaction to their third goal and especially our second. He's paid to manage the side, not sit there, with 5 minutes to go and the team needing a goal, shaking his head, clearly with the belief that we're not good enough. The fans thought we were in with a chance, the players thought we were in with a chance and the manager didn't. Disgrace.

Well you certainly wouldn't like the ever-stoic Mourinho for us then. And Mancini had every right to think that we weren't good enough... because we were not good enough. I guess you also happened to catch his reaction to our 3rd goal? Full of emotion and the "fighting spirit" that you seem to crave so much. Maybe if we just had Mick McCarthy screaming at our players for 90 mins, we'd have won the league by now. What shit

Theres a reason that the top managers usually just sit there and don't react. They know that it really doesn't affect the players that much (if they aren't motivated by the 40,000 fans, personal quest for glory, or 100K/week paycheck - whats one screaming guy on the touchline going to do).

Over analysis by the under equipped

[Blue Since 76]

Who's next?

As manager? Don't know. But what I do know is that Mancini's behaviour at the end was unacceptable. He was as bad as the fans who left at 3-1.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Just finally calmed down enough to watch MOTD. Mancini should be sacked for his reaction to their third goal and especially our second. He's paid to manage the side, not sit there, with 5 minutes to go and the team needing a goal, shaking his head, clearly with the belief that we're not good enough. The fans thought we were in with a chance, the players thought we were in with a chance and the manager didn't. Disgrace.

*sigh*

[Blue Since 76]

*sigh*

Do you think a manager sitting there shaking his head at 3-2 down with 5 minutes to go is ok then?

[Foreverinbluedreams]

*sigh*

Do you think a manager sitting there shaking his head at 3-2 down with 5 minutes to go is ok then?

What I imagine he was thinking to himself was where the fuck was that for the previous 80 minutes. The shaking of the head was obviously him rueing the fact that we allowed ourselves to be in that position in the first place.

There's plenty of other reasons to criticise Bob. This is petty imo.

[bigblue]

*sigh*

Do you think a manager sitting there shaking his head at 3-2 down with 5 minutes to go is ok then?

Why wouldn't it be? You have no idea why he's shaking his head or what you're talking about. How does this matter at all?

ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH? FFS

[Blue Since 76]

Why wouldn't it be? You have no idea why he's shaking his head or what you're talking about. How do this matter at all?

ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH? FFS

It matters as I expect him to be offering the team support and advice, not sitting there feeling sorry for himself. What changed when we got the third and he was up off his seat?

[bigblue]

Why wouldn't it be? You have no idea why he's shaking his head or what you're talking about. How do this matter at all?

ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH? FFS

It matters as I expect him to be offering the team support and advice, not sitting there feeling sorry for himself. What changed when we got the third and he was up off his seat?

A team of international level pro footballers shouldn't need support, they're grown men. And he was giving tactical advice, just not during the 10 second clip that MOTD showed. I'm sorry but you're either still hungover from yesterday or just thick as shit. This is one of the dumbest things that I've read on here.

[Blue Since 76]

A team of international level pro footballers shouldn't need support, they're grown men. And he was giving tactical advice, just not during the 10 second clip that MOTD showed. I'm sorry but you're either still hungover from yesterday or just thick as shit. This is one of the dumbest things that I've read on here.

International level footballers don't need support? Why have we got a manager then, you thick cunt

[bigblue]

A team of international level pro footballers shouldn't need support, they're grown men. And he was giving tactical advice, just not during the 10 second clip that MOTD showed. I'm sorry but you're either still hungover from yesterday or just thick as shit. This is one of the dumbest things that I've read on here.

International level footballers don't need support? Why have we got a manager then, you thick cunt

To organize them into a cohesive system you idiot. Not to hold their hand and wipe their tears

Do you really think that after Balo scored at 2-3 some players looked at Mancini, saw him shaking his head, and as a result had their confidence crushed and willingness to fight taken away?!?

What are you smoking?

[Blue Since 76]

To organize them into a cohesive system you idiot. Not to hold their hand and wipe their tears

Do you really think that after Balo scored at 2-3 some players looked at Mancini, saw him shaking his head, and as a result had their confidence crushed and willingness to fight taken away?!?

What are you smoking?

A cohesive unit before the game starts but then to react to tactical changes. Sitting there dumbstruck he's no use to anyone. The guy has completely lost it. He looked like he was writing his after game speech to explain how we'd thrown the title away rather than working out how to salvage something.

[Nigels Tackle]

we should get king kenny in...

[edge275]

I think at the end of the season, even if we win the league we should sack Mancini and bring Mourinho in if he's available. Just pay him whatever.

[bigblue]

To organize them into a cohesive system you idiot. Not to hold their hand and wipe their tears

Do you really think that after Balo scored at 2-3 some players looked at Mancini, saw him shaking his head, and as a result had their confidence crushed and willingness to fight taken away?!?

What are you smoking?

A cohesive unit before the game starts but then to react to tactical changes. Sitting there dumbstruck he's no use to anyone. The guy has completely lost it. He looked like he was writing his after game speech to explain how we'd thrown the title away rather than working out how to salvage something.

Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about. I could see you having a go at him for not reacting if we lost 3-1.... but we did react and tied the game at 3-3.

Would you say the same (sitting there dumbstruck) about Mourinho, Ancelotti, Guardiola, or any of the other countless stoic managers in football?

You know that you can't actually read someone's mind just by staring really hard at their head? All your doing is attributing thoughts to Mancini based on your frustration at the current situation. It's pointless, petty, and unbelievably stupid