Ins And Outs?

[Ted Hughes]

but we MUST have backup for Silva.

Suarez can step up, he will grow only surrounded by top class players.

Maybe, but doubtful he's going to do it in the next few months. If Silva doesn't perform for any reason, we have a problem.

[PALUS]

but we MUST have backup for Silva.

Suarez can step up, he will grow only surrounded by top class players.

Maybe, but doubtful he's going to do it in the next few months. If Silva doesn't perform for any reason, we have a problem.

i Cant see Suarez step in and replace Silva on level we need .

[Dameerto]

I think Bobby is more interested in the Chimp, instead of RVP, even if he said so.

I don't know how he will play RVP (if he comes here) with Aguerro, Herman, Mario and Edin. Hope he doesn't have some ideas of playing RVP as a winger.

I would hope he would be in rotation with Aguero, since Bob almost ran Aguero into the ground last season.

[PeterParker]

I think Bobby is more interested in the Chimp, instead of RVP, even if he said so.

I don't know how he will play RVP (if he comes here) with Aguerro, Herman, Mario and Edin. Hope he doesn't have some ideas of playing RVP as a winger.

I would hope he would be in rotation with Aguero, since Bob almost ran Aguero into the ground last season.

Rather with Silva, for Aguero my mind is with Guidetti.

Bobby must start to give those lads Premiership chances, even that is on loan. Remember Joey, he was mediocre (not to say shite) before he went to B'gham, then he became what he is. Playing only in cups is not enough, then we might let them slip and sign with another club where they will deliver.

[DoomMerchant]

I think Bobby is more interested in the Chimp, instead of RVP, even if he said so.

I don't know how he will play RVP (if he comes here) with Aguerro, Herman, Mario and Edin. Hope he doesn't have some ideas of playing RVP as a winger.

RVP can "play" wide...it's all about creating space, and he can work wide to create space. He did it Arsenal. I'm not so bothered by our forward players alleged positions. They're just working together to create space, and i have to say that when we're on our game our artistry at doing so is on par with anyone in the world -- only Real Madrid and Barca look as good. RVP would only accentuate that.

RVP can be deployed in a varying array of attacking talent to create serious issues for teams. Mario and RVP together, if they get on the same fucking wavelength, with our midfield options could be something very very special.

[PeterParker]

I think Bobby is more interested in the Chimp, instead of RVP, even if he said so.

I don't know how he will play RVP (if he comes here) with Aguerro, Herman, Mario and Edin. Hope he doesn't have some ideas of playing RVP as a winger.

RVP can "play" wide...it's all about creating space, and he can work wide to create space. He did it Arsenal. I'm not so bothered by our forward players alleged positions. They're just working together to create space, and i have to say that when we're on our game our artistry at doing so is on par with anyone in the world -- only Real Madrid and Barca look as good. RVP would only accentuate that.

RVP can be deployed in a varying array of attacking talent to create serious issues for teams. Mario and RVP together, if they get on the same fucking wavelength, with our midfield options could be something very very special.

Doomie, that is why i am worried. I was impressed by RVP wide position at Feyenoord, where he, Pierre Van Hooijdonk and Kalou (Bonevanture, not the shitty Chelski one) were a scoring machine. At Arsenal he was ok, if you ask me, untill he became a poacher, then he delivered.

Weird enough, his injuries were when he played wide, not as a single striker like he did lately, so maybe he can't face the rhythm of a winger who must run all game up and down the line.

[avoidconfusion]

Have to say this window is a bit too quiet, I don't really get it. Next year, come the ACON we will have the same problems again with Yaya gone.

Also do not understand why we still have not signed a proper winger either.

[paul_oresteia]

Another twitter rumour. This time from that well known football insider, Boris Becker (???)...

[Risby]

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Isn't the AFCON this year as well so not to clash with future world cups and European championships.
I would like to see a winger/creative midfielder, a central defender and then to push some of these EDS kids through slowly to get experience.

[Ted Hughes]

I think Bobby is more interested in the Chimp, instead of RVP, even if he said so.

I don't know how he will play RVP (if he comes here) with Aguerro, Herman, Mario and Edin. Hope he doesn't have some ideas of playing RVP as a winger.

RVP can "play" wide...it's all about creating space, and he can work wide to create space. He did it Arsenal. I'm not so bothered by our forward players alleged positions. They're just working together to create space, and i have to say that when we're on our game our artistry at doing so is on par with anyone in the world -- only Real Madrid and Barca look as good. RVP would only accentuate that.

RVP can be deployed in a varying array of attacking talent to create serious issues for teams. Mario and RVP together, if they get on the same fucking wavelength, with our midfield options could be something very very special.

I've said on here before that perhaps Bob has a more cunning plan for RVP, & if so, that may solve some of the squad problems, provided he signs & then actually plays, rather than sitting in the treatment room.

[Dameerto]

Doomie, that is why i am worried. I was impressed by RVP wide position at Feyenoord, where he, Pierre Van Hooijdonk and Kalou (Bonevanture, not the shitty Chelski one) were a scoring machine. At Arsenal he was ok, if you ask me, untill he became a poacher, then he delivered.

Weird enough, his injuries were when he played wide, not as a single striker like he did lately, so maybe he can't face the rhythm of a winger who must run all game up and down the line.

I think of Aguero as our 'central' player (as much as anyone can be up front when we're using the midgets) since Kun does all his best work inside the penalty area - and RVP would be an ideal candidate to share his workload.

[Dunnylad]

Another twitter rumour. This time from that well known football insider, Boris Becker (???)...

Probably based on the BBC Sporf feed which read:-

@BBCSporf: BREAKING: Robin Van Persie officially signs a new two year contract - £30 a month, unlimited calls, & 500 texts, with O2. (@__ArseneWenger )

[Wonderwall]

We need not worry. There is no chance mancini would have signed a new 5yr deal with the knowledge that we are unable to strengthen to challenge for the champs league. He has a plan, we just dont know what it is yet and well done to City for keeping a lid on it.

[IanWright]

According to tabloid tittle-tattle, RvP is on his way to the Rags (shocking, if true), and Adebayor demands 175k a week at Spurs if he is going to sign on for them.

I think the Adebayor story rankles a little more, in my case. How on earth did it start? When was his selfishness born? How does he think he justifies such an obscene wage? I think I can pinpoint some of it back to when he was at Arsenal. Henry left and Adebayor automatically put himself into the bracket of top dog and the very keen and able replacement for Henry. (Every football fan knows just how detached from reality such a statement is)

I'm hoping that City and Spurs both play hardball in this situation. If he wants to play football again, in the top flight of English football, then he's going to need to take a pay cut. Otherwise, kindly f*** off.

[ant london]

According to tabloid tittle-tattle, RvP is on his way to the Rags (shocking, if true), and Adebayor demands 175k a week at Spurs if he is going to sign on for them.

I think the Adebayor story rankles a little more, in my case. How on earth did it start? When was his selfishness born? How does he think he justifies such an obscene wage? I think I can pinpoint some of it back to when he was at Arsenal. Henry left and Adebayor automatically put himself into the bracket of top dog and the very keen and able replacement for Henry. (Every football fan knows just how detached from reality such a statement is)

I'm hoping that City and Spurs both play hardball in this situation. If he wants to play football again, in the top flight of English football, then he's going to need to take a pay cut. Otherwise, kindly f*** off.

Maybe Dagestan and Anzhi beckons for Ade??

[Wonderwall]

According to tabloid tittle-tattle, RvP is on his way to the Rags (shocking, if true), and Adebayor demands 175k a week at Spurs if he is going to sign on for them.

I think the Adebayor story rankles a little more, in my case. How on earth did it start? When was his selfishness born? How does he think he justifies such an obscene wage? I think I can pinpoint some of it back to when he was at Arsenal. Henry left and Adebayor automatically put himself into the bracket of top dog and the very keen and able replacement for Henry. (Every football fan knows just how detached from reality such a statement is)

I'm hoping that City and Spurs both play hardball in this situation. If he wants to play football again, in the top flight of English football, then he's going to need to take a pay cut. Otherwise, kindly f*** off.

I think your right but we certainly accelerated it by giving him stupid money. I understand why we did it at the time but our rush to get quality in asap at any price has certainly had an impact in the market place and none of it is good. We are feeling the brunt of it money wise as we are subsidising moves for our now unwanted premadonnas. You reep what you sow and its probably partly why we are the only team to sign nobody in current window.

[ronk]

I think your right but we certainly accelerated it by giving him stupid money. I understand why we did it at the time but our rush to get quality in asap at any price has certainly had an impact in the market place and none of it is good. We are feeling the brunt of it money wise as we are subsidising moves for our now unwanted premadonnas. You reep what you sow and its probably partly why we are the only team to sign nobody in current window.

There's a clause in FFP that gives us room over silly contracts like Adebayor's. I still think we need to be careful though.

Part of the reason we're not actively purchasing is stable squads. Adebayor was a player purchased in a frenzy, having built a really strong squad we need to be hyper selective more than we need to strengthen. There are exceptional players, but we'll generally be better off focusing on knitting the squad closer and giving time for Mancini's methods to percolate through the club than continuing with rapid turnover.

We've now more or less reached the point where we can afford to wait for the right players at the right price, (& where we probably shouldn't do otherwise).

[Swales4ever]

I think your right but we certainly accelerated it by giving him stupid money. I understand why we did it at the time but our rush to get quality in asap at any price has certainly had an impact in the market place and none of it is good. We are feeling the brunt of it money wise as we are subsidising moves for our now unwanted premadonnas. You reep what you sow and its probably partly why we are the only team to sign nobody in current window.

There's a clause in FFP that gives us room over silly contracts like Adebayor's. I still think we need to be careful though.

Part of the reason we're not actively purchasing is stable squads. Adebayor was a player purchased in a frenzy, having built a really strong squad we need to be hyper selective more than we need to strengthen. There are exceptional players, but we'll generally be better off focusing on knitting the squad closer and giving time for Mancini's methods to percolate through the club than continuing with rapid turnover.

We've now more or less reached the point where we can afford to wait for the right players at the right price, (& where we probably shouldn't do otherwise).

that's a wise and cool point, as usual by ronk, and pretty much resume what i tried to say on this boring summer.
still, while i can understand and support that infofar the almost wanted "fast skillful wide man" (read failure to get Sanchez_cunt, then Hazard ) is concerned, I actually struggle to understand why we did not even went all out for Javi Martinez, particularly since when Bielsa left Bilbao and he declared himself open to consider major challanges, as we are all aware of what would happen if Vinnie/Joleon would happen to have a season like Vidic/Camel and what certainly will happen when Yaya will be off again for ACoN.