our back line against Madrid

[kennyboy]

Lescott never passes to other than the nearest one, why? Because he lacks the ability, seems like hes feet also is
glued to the green. I think we gonna struggle for not replacing him in the summer.

And btw; If Kolo is 15 stone overweight, Fatcon is 25 stone over. :)

[Ted Hughes]

Lescott never passes to other than the nearest one, why? Because he lacks the ability, seems like hes feet also is
glued to the green. I think we gonna struggle for not replacing him in the summer.

And btw; If Kolo is 15 stone overweight, Fatcon is 25 stone over. :)

Vinny either passes to the nearest bloke or to the opposition, he is fucking dreadful when he attempts to do anything other than what Lescott does. Lescott knows he can't hit a 60 yard pass, Vinny insists on proving he can't.

I prefer Lescott's method. Both are useless on the ball but so are almost all cbs.

One or two can play but 99% of the world's so called 'ball playing' cb's just THINK they can play. They get away with it once or twice then lose it in the oppo's half, just as Lescott did when he tried it. Piquet does that regularly for Barca & gets away with it because they are Barca.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Lescott never passes to other than the nearest one, why? Because he lacks the ability, seems like hes feet also is
glued to the green. I think we gonna struggle for not replacing him in the summer.

And btw; If Kolo is 15 stone overweight, Fatcon is 25 stone over. :)

Vinny either passes to the nearest bloke or to the opposition, he is fucking dreadful when he attempts to do anything other than what Lescott does. Lescott knows he can't hit a 60 yard pass, Vinny insists on proving he can't.

I prefer Lescott's method. Both are useless on the ball but so are almost all cbs.

One or two can play but 99% of the world's so called 'ball playing' cb's just THINK they can play. They get away with it once or twice then lose it in the oppo's half, just as Lescott did when he tried it. Piquet does that regularly for Barca & gets away with it because they are Barca.

It's Lescott's job to pass short and simple.That's exactly what Mancini wants him to do.

[kennyboy]

Lescott never passes to other than the nearest one, why? Because he lacks the ability, seems like hes feet also is
glued to the green. I think we gonna struggle for not replacing him in the summer.

And btw; If Kolo is 15 stone overweight, Fatcon is 25 stone over. :)

Vinny either passes to the nearest bloke or to the opposition, he is fucking dreadful when he attempts to do anything other than what Lescott does. Lescott knows he can't hit a 60 yard pass, Vinny insists on proving he can't.

I prefer Lescott's method. Both are useless on the ball but so are almost all cbs.

One or two can play but 99% of the world's so called 'ball playing' cb's just THINK they can play. They get away with it once or twice then lose it in the oppo's half, just as Lescott did when he tried it. Piquet does that regularly for Barca & gets away with it because they are Barca.

It's Lescott's job to pass short and simple.That's exactly what Mancini wants him to do.

I see. Mancini and Woy then, they also want him to look uncomfortable and slow with the ball.
Come on lads, JL isn't any where near Vinny's class.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Lescott never passes to other than the nearest one, why? Because he lacks the ability, seems like hes feet also is
glued to the green. I think we gonna struggle for not replacing him in the summer.

And btw; If Kolo is 15 stone overweight, Fatcon is 25 stone over. :)

Vinny either passes to the nearest bloke or to the opposition, he is fucking dreadful when he attempts to do anything other than what Lescott does. Lescott knows he can't hit a 60 yard pass, Vinny insists on proving he can't.

I prefer Lescott's method. Both are useless on the ball but so are almost all cbs.

One or two can play but 99% of the world's so called 'ball playing' cb's just THINK they can play. They get away with it once or twice then lose it in the oppo's half, just as Lescott did when he tried it. Piquet does that regularly for Barca & gets away with it because they are Barca.

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It's Lescott's job to pass short and simple.That's exactly what Mancini wants him to do.

I see. Mancini and Woy then, they also want him to look uncomfortable and slow with the ball.
Come on lads, JL isn't any where near Vinny's class.

Not for one second will I ever suggest Lescott is good on the ball. He does look twitchy and the last thing I ever want to see is Lescott trying to be clever.If both Vinnie and Lescott are playing at their very best Vinnie is a a better player,no question but at the moment neither are at their best but seemingly only Lescott is getting panned.Although as Carl is heading that brigade it does lose credibility.

Of course it's what Woy wants him to do.His job is to defend and give the ball to players who can pass and create.

[dazby]

I thought JL had a good game, and looked better than Vinnie.

[ashton287]

Vinny should of won the header, lescott should of out a foot in, everyone should of played to the whistle and hart should of been off his line closing crouch down and making himself big as soon as crouch turned vinny.

Clusterfuck of mistakes and both our CB's and hart. But the blame falls squarely to the ref and linesmen because he got past lescott by holding the ball.

Anyway I want to see

Maicon-nastasic-vinny-lescott-clichy

Against Madrid. We will need the extra man in the middle because we don't have a right back capable of handling ronaldo on his own.

[Ted Hughes]

We could play 2 or 3 mids in front of the defence then play Zabba at rb. Push Yaya forward.

[Alex Sapphire]

We could play 2 or 3 mids in front of the defence then play Zabba at rb. Push Yaya forward.

this.
I'd like to see Barry and Garcia with Yaya a bit freer.
Dropping Lescott would be madness.

[Moonchesteri]

Not to worry about our back line people. I watched Seville v Madrid last night and they looked awful. Only person that was a threat was Modric. Hopefully, Bobby will put out our best team against tranny and co.

By Real Madrid's standards they were awful but still they created loads of chances away from home. It was only their finishing which was conference standard. There was also huuuge gaps in their defence which Sevilla should've exploited but that was partly because Real was pushing men forward.
Hopefully they won't hit the top gear on Tuesday either as in that case we have a shout of even coming away with three points. But there's so much quality on show there that our lads must be on top of their game.

[Ted Hughes]

Having just watched the replay of Stoke's goal, there are two dreadful mistakes; one by Clattenburg, the other by Vincent Kompany.

How the fuck people can single out Lescott or Garcia for blame is beyond ridiculous. Vinny is at fault pure & simple; he is fucking terrible. Then it's all about the officials missing two handballs, which is the only reason Crouch didn't lose the ball.

[GoatersRightShin]

The goal wasn't lescotts fault. I'd be hard pressed to blame anyone, it's just a very unlucky goal to concede considering he bobbled through about 3 tackles an ended up on the 6 yard line with the ball.

Players like lescott will always be criticised because they are the scapegoats. Milner, dzeko, kolarov et al can all have class games and people still won't give them the praise they deserve.

And how can people criticise his distribution? One of the reasons we play players like Garcia, Barry and yaya is because they will come and get the ball from the centre half and they are better at using it. The vast majority of teams do the same - see scholes, Allen, mikel, modric... You cannot criticise a defender for not doing what he is not there to do

[Ted Hughes]

The goal wasn't lescotts fault. I'd be hard pressed to blame anyone, it's just a very unlucky goal to concede considering he bobbled through about 3 tackles an ended up on the 6 yard line with the ball.

Players like lescott will always be criticised because they are the scapegoats. Milner, dzeko, kolarov et al can all have class games and people still won't give them the praise they deserve.

And how can people criticise his distribution? One of the reasons we play players like Garcia, Barry and yaya is because they will come and get the ball from the centre half and they are better at using it. The vast majority of teams do the same - see scholes, Allen, mikel, modric... You cannot criticise a defender for not doing what he is not there to do

It's a much better plan imo to have midfielders on the ball rather than defenders, even if people THINK those defenders are good on the ball. A defender who is good on the ball should be an occasional surprise weapon, used once in a while to create something, not some kind of bogus Iniesta who sprays the ball around.

Take the ball off the fuckers asap.

[blues2win]

Vinnie made a mistake and so did Lescott. Play to the fucking whistle FFS. Of course Clattenburg's a useless tosser but we have to cope with it as best we can. They've both made too many mistakes this season. Nastasic isn't going to play on Tuesday barring an injury but he will do soon unless our centre backs get their fucking act together.

Lescott's poor quality on the ball does matter I'm afraid. If I was an opposing manager I would be getting my players to pressure him in possession. He'd give the ball away every time. Presumably Nastasic has been bought to replace him at some point. He may not have long to wait at this rate.

[Beefymcfc]

On the Crouch goal, I don't see what else Lescott could've done but appeal for the obvious handball. I know you have a problem with him Carl but once Vince had missed the cross Lescott was straight at him to close down the space. He then brought his knee to where the ball should've gone until Crouch maneuvered the ball away and around him. He was passed Lescott now which mean't there was nothing else he could've done.

No fault of anybody's apart from the ref and assistants giving Stoke the full recourse of their support.

As for Real, let's just wait and see who starts and in what formation. The constant tinkering is helping nobody.

[ashton287]

Having just watched the replay of Stoke's goal, there are two dreadful mistakes; one by Clattenburg, the other by Vincent Kompany.

How the fuck people can single out Lescott or Garcia for blame is beyond ridiculous. Vinny is at fault pure & simple; he is fucking terrible. Then it's all about the officials missing two handballs, which is the only reason Crouch didn't lose the ball.

Yeah wasn't Garcia about 5 foot to the side of the play and nowhere fucking near crouch.

I am not too sure about the yaya being pushed forward for the whole game though. Is his fitness up to it? I thought the whole reason we adopted the holding role for him and then pushing him forward later on was his fitness and him being gassed out by the 60th minute.

[Alex Sapphire]

wasn't Garcia about 5 foot to the side of the play and nowhere fucking near crouch.

he was miles away. If it suits your argument

[ashton287]

he was miles away. If it suits your argument

I was actually asking the question. Not arguing for it.

I thought he was near the from post for some reason.

[Alex Sapphire]

he was miles away. If it suits your argument

I was actually asking the question. Not arguing for it.

I thought he was near the from post for some reason.

and the "your" wasn't you :)

[The Italian Job]

wasn't Garcia about 5 foot to the side of the play and nowhere fucking near crouch.

he was miles away. If it suits your argument

He was, but after that clearance which Crouch handled past him. At that point the only player who could've done better was Hart.

Kompany's challenge was rubbish, but Lescott & Garcia just standing there with their hands in the air get on my tits. What if Hart saved the shot? Nobody challenging Crouch for the rebound. Play to the fucking whistle.