Title Race | This vs Last Season

[dazby]

The thing is the Rags are far more clinical than us. Always seems like we need more chances to score. Last week for example we wasted numerous chances, they get two break aways and score. Today in the first half for example we could and should have scored more.

I call bullshit on this. I watched the first half of the rags-sunderland game and they fluffed many chances. Shrek missed two that Balo would have been crucified for missing.

[Chinners]

The thing is the Rags are far more clinical than us. Always seems like we need more chances to score. Last week for example we wasted numerous chances, they get two break aways and score. Today in the first half for example we could and should have scored more.

I call bullshit on this. I watched the first half of the rags-sunderland game and they fluffed many chances. Shrek missed two that Balo would have been crucified for missing.

Strong point well made Dazby. One of them was an absolute sitter as well

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

A minor point. We turned around the 6 point deficit in 4 (not 6) games. If we keep winning the pressure will tell on them. They're obsessed with us and now live their whole season in relation to us - that's a weakness.

[AG7]

A minor point. We turned around the 6 point deficit in 4 (not 6) games. If we keep winning the pressure will tell on them. They're obsessed with us and now live their whole season in relation to us - that's a weakness.

You mean 8 points not 6 ... yes, we had 6 games to turn it and it happened in 4 ... they lost to Wigan and then their draw with Everton helped us erase 5 in three games, then the final 3 was on us (the derby at Etihad).

Issue this season is we have already lost a derby, and the next one is a must win for us now ... the reason we are behind them is we went to Liverpool and drew, we went to Chelsea and drew ... they went to Chelsea and Liverpool both and won ... Arsenal came to us and we drew, Arsenal went to them and they won ... this is what has left us 6 points behind them. We now have to win on and on to keep any pressure on them. Issue is looking at the fixtures ahead, it looks likely that we might drop more points before they do ...

[zuricity]

I'll be relieved when we hit the 40 pt. relegation (safety) level, which should have been next week, now it looks like i'll have to wait a bit longer.

[aaron bond]

A minor point. We turned around the 6 point deficit in 4 (not 6) games. If we keep winning the pressure will tell on them. They're obsessed with us and now live their whole season in relation to us - that's a weakness.

You mean 8 points not 6 ... yes, we had 6 games to turn it and it happened in 4 ... they lost to Wigan and then their draw with Everton helped us erase 5 in three games, then the final 3 was on us (the derby at Etihad).

Issue this season is we have already lost a derby, and the next one is a must win for us now ... the reason we are behind them is we went to Liverpool and drew, we went to Chelsea and drew ... they went to Chelsea and Liverpool both and won ... Arsenal came to us and we drew, Arsenal went to them and they won ... this is what has left us 6 points behind them. We now have to win on and on to keep any pressure on them. Issue is looking at the fixtures ahead, it looks likely that we might drop more points before they do ...

You can't predict what will happen in football. You seem to naturally assume they will do better than us. Last season proved that won't necessarily be the case.

Lots of us said earlier in the season, due to our injuries and the fact we didn't get a pre-season, that if we are close to the top of the league by new year than we'd be happy. Well we are in that position so I don't see why we should change that view now. It looks like we will be in that position at new year so then we're in the title race are we not???

We may not have been as great this season as we'd have hoped but we are very much in the title race. United are in the title race EVERY year. Even if they're not as good as we think they are they are always there so rather than bitching about it and saying 'we should be walking the league' like some people assume we should be then we should get behind the team and build on what we have got.

This title race is far from over and after seeing the drive in our players following the derby defeat, then it's good to know our players are up for the battle.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

The thing is the Rags are far more clinical than us. Always seems like we need more chances to score. Last week for example we wasted numerous chances, they get two break aways and score. Today in the first half for example we could and should have scored more.

I call bullshit on this. I watched the first half of the rags-sunderland game and they fluffed many chances. Shrek missed two that Balo would have been crucified for missing.

Disagree, theyre far more clinical shown by the game last week.

[Cocacolajojo1]

The thing is the Rags are far more clinical than us. Always seems like we need more chances to score. Last week for example we wasted numerous chances, they get two break aways and score. Today in the first half for example we could and should have scored more.

I call bullshit on this. I watched the first half of the rags-sunderland game and they fluffed many chances. Shrek missed two that Balo would have been crucified for missing.

Disagree, theyre far more clinical shown by the game last week.

There's this site called whoscores.com. It's a nightmare to navigate and the only way to find the average conversion rate is to go into the head to head stats from actual games.

Here's United's (and Sunderland's): http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/615082/TeamStatistics/England-Premier-League-2012-2013-Manchester-United-Sunderland

Here's City's (and Newcastle's): http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/615083 ... ester-City

On average our conversion rate is 10 % and theirs is 16 %. Although that's counting all the chances. Make of that what you will.

[Beefymcfc]

Yesterday:

City - 17 shots, 3 goals.

Rags - 16 shots, 3 goals.

Over the season I'm sure we've had more efforts on goal than the Rags but their conversion rate is much higher. For me it says that our strike force is spluttering through and that they are either mis-hitting/bottling it in front of goal. That can be the only answer if we're getting just as many attempts.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

The thing is the Rags are far more clinical than us. Always seems like we need more chances to score. Last week for example we wasted numerous chances, they get two break aways and score. Today in the first half for example we could and should have scored more.

I call bullshit on this. I watched the first half of the rags-sunderland game and they fluffed many chances. Shrek missed two that Balo would have been crucified for missing.

Disagree, theyre far more clinical shown by the game last week.

There's this site called whoscores.com. It's a nightmare to navigate and the only way to find the average conversion rate is to go into the head to head stats from actual games.

Here's United's (and Sunderland's): http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/615082/TeamStatistics/England-Premier-League-2012-2013-Manchester-United-Sunderland

Here's City's (and Newcastle's): http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/615083 ... ester-City

On average our conversion rate is 10 % and theirs is 16 %. Although that's counting all the chances. Make of that what you will.

It just seems though in BIG games when they get a chance they take it. The derby last week reminded of the Fa Cup tie last year. We were dominant, had possesion, missed chances and they break away and score. Our players still sometimes (not always ) like most teams seem to bottle it infront of goal against United.

[dazby]

The thing is the Rags are far more clinical than us. Always seems like we need more chances to score. Last week for example we wasted numerous chances, they get two break aways and score. Today in the first half for example we could and should have scored more.

I call bullshit on this. I watched the first half of the rags-sunderland game and they fluffed many chances. Shrek missed two that Balo would have been crucified for missing.

Disagree, theyre far more clinical shown by the game last week.

Two scuffed shots and a deflected free kick is hardly "clinical." BRF, you have an inferiority complex based on 20 years of their success. It shows through in all of your posts. You get accused of sticking up for them too much. Is this because you watch highlights packages of their games rather than all the warts and all action?

You're a good poster mate but as a City legend once said "get your head out of Fergies arsehole...."

[Ted Hughes]

The thing is the Rags are far more clinical than us. Always seems like we need more chances to score. Last week for example we wasted numerous chances, they get two break aways and score. Today in the first half for example we could and should have scored more.

I call bullshit on this. I watched the first half of the rags-sunderland game and they fluffed many chances. Shrek missed two that Balo would have been crucified for missing.

Disagree, theyre far more clinical shown by the game last week.

Two scuffed shots and a deflected free kick is hardly "clinical." BRF, you have an inferiority complex based on 20 years of their success. It shows through in all of your posts. You get accused of sticking up for them too much. Is this because you watch highlights packages of their games rather than all the warts and all action?

You're a good poster mate but as a City legend once said "get your head out of Fergies arsehole...."

I think it's half & half here imo, they are by no means perfect but if you turn the tables from last weekend, it's unlikely we would win a game against such qualiy oppositiion when so utterly outclassed from start to finish.

They are not in our league, but beat us due to being more efficient & better drilled.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

The thing is the Rags are far more clinical than us. Always seems like we need more chances to score. Last week for example we wasted numerous chances, they get two break aways and score. Today in the first half for example we could and should have scored more.

I call bullshit on this. I watched the first half of the rags-sunderland game and they fluffed many chances. Shrek missed two that Balo would have been crucified for missing.

Disagree, theyre far more clinical shown by the game last week.

Two scuffed shots and a deflected free kick is hardly "clinical." BRF, you have an inferiority complex based on 20 years of their success. It shows through in all of your posts. You get accused of sticking up for them too much. Is this because you watch highlights packages of their games rather than all the warts and all action?

You're a good poster mate but as a City legend once said "get your head out of Fergies arsehole...."

How was the second one scuffed? Not at all. Was the same in the Fa Cup tie last season, we dominated, missed chances and they broke and scored.

[sidSmith]

Yesterday:

City - 17 shots, 3 goals.

Rags - 16 shots, 3 goals.

Over the season I'm sure we've had more efforts on goal than the Rags but their conversion rate is much higher. For me it says that our strike force is spluttering through and that they are either mis-hitting/bottling it in front of goal. That can be the only answer if we're getting just as many attempts.

It's not spluttering, the problem is we haven't played the right strike force. It comes back to Tevez and Aguero. I don't watch them, but I'm sure scum play Rooney and RVP when both fit in the big games. We piss about.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

The thing is the Rags are far more clinical than us. Always seems like we need more chances to score. Last week for example we wasted numerous chances, they get two break aways and score. Today in the first half for example we could and should have scored more.

I call bullshit on this. I watched the first half of the rags-sunderland game and they fluffed many chances. Shrek missed two that Balo would have been crucified for missing.

Disagree, theyre far more clinical shown by the game last week.

Two scuffed shots and a deflected free kick is hardly "clinical." BRF, you have an inferiority complex based on 20 years of their success. It shows through in all of your posts. You get accused of sticking up for them too much. Is this because you watch highlights packages of their games rather than all the warts and all action?

You're a good poster mate but as a City legend once said "get your head out of Fergies arsehole...."

It's not about an 'inferiority complex'. In big games, when they get chances they are far better at taking them than we are. Against Chelsea away, Liverpool away, us at the Etihad. In all 3 games the other side had more chances yet lost.

[AG7]

Our next three games:

H - Reading
A - Sunderland
A - Norwich

Their next three fixtures:

A - Swansea
H - Newcastle
H - West Brom

We totally *should* get 9 points from our three while they should drop at least 2-4 points somewhere in there ...

Although I have a funny feeling, we're getting a draw somewhere in there and coming out thinking it's at least a point added for us (like we have in each of the 6 draws so far) ...

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Our next three games:

H - Reading
A - Sunderland
A - Norwich

Their next three fixtures:

A - Swansea
H - Newcastle
H - West Brom

We totally *should* get 9 points from our three while they should drop at least 2-4 points somewhere in there ...

Although I have a funny feeling, we're getting a draw somewhere in there and coming out thinking it's at least a point added for us (like we have in each of the 6 draws so far) ...

Our next three away games will be vital.
Sunderland should be taken. But an in form Norwich and Arsenal, where Mancini usually goes ultra cautious, might be tricky.
To pull the six points back though we need to win these type of games.

[Crossie]

I think dropping Mario is the best thing for the club now. We can have 2 strikers on the pitch who trust each other, backed up by the best attacking midfield in the league by far.

It feels like our season started on Saturday.

[Swales4ever]

Nah! no chance whatsoever. we know by certain that one way or another UBER Cautious Mancini shall find a way to bottle it, yet again.

We won't win fuck all until we will have two pacey wingers an a big lump, instead of this boring Continental ticky-tacky. right?
and please stop now with this nonsense of playing right footed on the left and the other way round!
possibly bring back Empress Victoria.

[Beefymcfc]

Our next three games:

H - Reading
A - Sunderland
A - Norwich

Their next three fixtures:

A - Swansea - 10th, lost their last 2
H - Newcastle - 15th, lost all but one in their last 7
H - West Brom - 7th, lost 3 and drawn 1 in their last 4

We totally *should* get 9 points from our three while they should drop at least 2-4 points somewhere in there ...

Although I have a funny feeling, we're getting a draw somewhere in there and coming out thinking it's at least a point added for us (like we have in each of the 6 draws so far) ...

You are expecting the Rags to draw 2 games against them 3? I can see a possible game at Swansea, nothing else though.

We should do well against Reading but we've only got 1 point from Sunderland in the last 3 seasons, although their form should change that stat. As for Norwich, sitting comfortably in 8th, won their last 3, haven't lost a game in God knows how long and have only lost 1 out of 8 at home. Just to top that off, they've beaten both Arsenal and the Rags recently and Hughton has got them on a high.

Nothing guaranteed for both teams.