What's the real problem?

[City64]

Problem ?

FFS , away fixtures at clubs who are fighting for there premier league lives are THE most difficult fixtures this time of the season. QPR parked the bus from the very first minute , yes we should have scambled a one nil but we didnt . 14 games left , we can still lose one game and draw two others and still accumulate 87 pts which may be enough to win the title ...... it usualy is. We may however win every game here on in and accumulate 94 points , who knows ?

Luck will also play a massive part ..... we had none last night.





Edit , cant add up ! lol

[MilnersJaw]

gotta laugh at rodwell coming on. the guy has given away more goals to the opposition than any build up or helping city in his entire time at the club. not just waste of a shirt, but a liability.

sinclair was a good choice to bring on, unfortunately, too late or at least started.

[Swales4ever]

64,
I like the attitude of Your post - positive towards future, don't look back and all that good - but luck has little to do with the few, but quite sumptous chances we have created, despite everything, and wasted.
When then Rags were the real rags, van Nistelboy would have won that game 100 out of 100.
So would have Gerd Muller's Bayern, Pablo Rossi Juventus, Santillana's RM.
I can be a negro, but not a gloryhunter and I don't care of winning shitloads, but we are not really there where we are aiming to. simple as that.

Ted,
not that I deny the usual merits of Your analysis, but just don't scratch my arsehole by comparing Barry with the ginger cunt: and not only because we are Blues and we hate the cunt, but because Barry, perhaps not the Aston Villa's barry, nor even the Hughes's Barry, but the last three years barry is the most magnificent British holding midfielder of the last 3 decades.
Then, we were tired last night, on that pitch, with that wind and all that... ok, what can we have expected by playing the same midfield personnel since Yaya left, moreso 3 days after a battle at Stoke? I know that the word "tired" ain't the most popular in the English Game, but players are men, and this is the most demanding league in world and of all times.

Also as for Dzeko, yesterday I was feeling quite the opposite - I mean, narrow pitch, heavy rain: usually Edin shines on wider grounds and the wet surface doesn't help his first touch either - but that's just a personal perception and I wouldn't insist on it, cuz You may be right, more that I do, as usual.

[Mark Garrett]

There is no real problem.

We are 2nd in the league.

One of the challenges we continue to face is that at times we don't pass the ball quickly enough, yes last night was very difficult as they were organised and had 11 behind the ball at all times but we played into their hands a bit. We did this by taking extra touches of the ball that were unnecessary - Nasri in particular, passing the ball slowly at times and not getting as good quality crosses into the box regularly. Whether that be low or high crosses.

United tend to go to a default setting of getting bodies in the box and slinging in crosses when they need a goal. More often than not they find one, through a header or the ball dropping to a player in the box.

[Beefymcfc]

Problem ?

FFS , away fixtures at clubs who are fighting for there premier league lives are THE most difficult fixtures this time of the season. QPR parked the bus from the very first minute , yes we should have scambled a one nil but we didnt . 14 games left , we can still lose one game and draw two others and still accumulate 87 pts which may be enough to win the title ...... it usualy is. We may however win every game here on in and accumulate 94 points , who knows ?

Luck will also play a massive part ..... we had none last night.

Edit , cant add up ! lol

When we get these type of threads what doesn't get mentioned is the team we have just played. QPR are now becoming a very hard team to beat and with the acquisition of Remy they may just push out of the relegation places.

These are QPRs games since the turn of the year and apart from the dour performance against MK Dons they have not lost a game, against some very decent teams as well. They're not getting a lot of goals but they are certainly defending better.

QPR 0-0 Man City
QPR 2-4 MK Dons
West Ham 1-1 QPR
West Brom 0-1 QPR
QPR 0-0 Tottenham
QPR 1-1 West Brom
Chelsea 0-1 QPR

I mentioned early in the Match Thread that I was a little worried about this game and it turned out to be correct. Yes, we could've/should've scored but in all fairness, the 20 shots we had were well defended by QPR. A lot of credit goes to them for stopping us.

[Ted Hughes]

Problem ?

FFS , away fixtures at clubs who are fighting for there premier league lives are THE most difficult fixtures this time of the season. QPR parked the bus from the very first minute , yes we should have scambled a one nil but we didnt . 14 games left , we can still lose one game and draw two others and still accumulate 87 pts which may be enough to win the title ...... it usualy is. We may however win every game here on in and accumulate 94 points , who knows ?

Luck will also play a massive part ..... we had none last night.

Edit , cant add up ! lol

When we get these type of threads what doesn't get mentioned is the team we have just played. QPR are now becoming a very hard team to beat and with the acquisition of Remy they may just push out of the relegation places.

These are QPRs games since the turn of the year and apart from the dour performance against MK Dons they have not lost a game, against some very decent teams as well. They're not getting a lot of goals but they are certainly defending better.

QPR 0-0 Man City
QPR 2-4 MK Dons
West Ham 1-1 QPR
West Brom 0-1 QPR
QPR 0-0 Tottenham
QPR 1-1 West Brom
Chelsea 0-1 QPR

I mentioned early in the Match Thread that I was a little worried about this game and it turned out to be correct. Yes, we could've/should've scored but in all fairness, the 20 shots we had were well defended by QPR. A lot of credit goes to them for stopping us.

So we don't need to improve anything then ?

[Ted Hughes]

64,
I like the attitude of Your post - positive towards future, don't look back and all that good - but luck has little to do with the few, but quite sumptous chances we have created, despite everything, and wasted.
When then Rags were the real rags, van Nistelboy would have won that game 100 out of 100.
So would have Gerd Muller's Bayern, Pablo Rossi Juventus, Santillana's RM.
I can be a negro, but not a gloryhunter and I don't care of winning shitloads, but we are not really there where we are aiming to. simple as that.

Ted,
not that I deny the usual merits of Your analysis, but just don't scratch my arsehole by comparing Barry with the ginger cunt: and not only because we are Blues and we hate the cunt, but because Barry, perhaps not the Aston Villa's barry, nor even the Hughes's Barry, but the last three years barry is the most magnificent British holding midfielder of the last 3 decades.
Then, we were tired last night, on that pitch, with that wind and all that... ok, what can we have expected by playing the same midfield personnel since Yaya left, moreso 3 days after a battle at Stoke? I know that the word "tired" ain't the most popular in the English Game, but players are men, and this is the most demanding league in world and of all times.

Also as for Dzeko, yesterday I was feeling quite the opposite - I mean, narrow pitch, heavy rain: usually Edin shines on wider grounds and the wet surface doesn't help his first touch either - but that's just a personal perception and I wouldn't insist on it, cuz You may be right, more that I do, as usual.

We need a specialist holding midfielder against ten defenders ? Lescott & Garcia were stood in QPRs half on many occasions.

Scholes would have pissed it last night at the age he is now, never mind at 25.

[Beefymcfc]

Problem ?

FFS , away fixtures at clubs who are fighting for there premier league lives are THE most difficult fixtures this time of the season. QPR parked the bus from the very first minute , yes we should have scambled a one nil but we didnt . 14 games left , we can still lose one game and draw two others and still accumulate 87 pts which may be enough to win the title ...... it usualy is. We may however win every game here on in and accumulate 94 points , who knows ?

Luck will also play a massive part ..... we had none last night.

Edit , cant add up ! lol

When we get these type of threads what doesn't get mentioned is the team we have just played. QPR are now becoming a very hard team to beat and with the acquisition of Remy they may just push out of the relegation places.

These are QPRs games since the turn of the year and apart from the dour performance against MK Dons they have not lost a game, against some very decent teams as well. They're not getting a lot of goals but they are certainly defending better.

QPR 0-0 Man City
QPR 2-4 MK Dons
West Ham 1-1 QPR
West Brom 0-1 QPR
QPR 0-0 Tottenham
QPR 1-1 West Brom
Chelsea 0-1 QPR

I mentioned early in the Match Thread that I was a little worried about this game and it turned out to be correct. Yes, we could've/should've scored but in all fairness, the 20 shots we had were well defended by QPR. A lot of credit goes to them for stopping us.

So we don't need to improve anything then ?

Obviously not, because that's what I said, wasn't it?

[Ted Hughes]

Problem ?

FFS , away fixtures at clubs who are fighting for there premier league lives are THE most difficult fixtures this time of the season. QPR parked the bus from the very first minute , yes we should have scambled a one nil but we didnt . 14 games left , we can still lose one game and draw two others and still accumulate 87 pts which may be enough to win the title ...... it usualy is. We may however win every game here on in and accumulate 94 points , who knows ?

Luck will also play a massive part ..... we had none last night.

Edit , cant add up ! lol

When we get these type of threads what doesn't get mentioned is the team we have just played. QPR are now becoming a very hard team to beat and with the acquisition of Remy they may just push out of the relegation places.

These are QPRs games since the turn of the year and apart from the dour performance against MK Dons they have not lost a game, against some very decent teams as well. They're not getting a lot of goals but they are certainly defending better.

QPR 0-0 Man City
QPR 2-4 MK Dons
West Ham 1-1 QPR
West Brom 0-1 QPR
QPR 0-0 Tottenham
QPR 1-1 West Brom
Chelsea 0-1 QPR

I mentioned early in the Match Thread that I was a little worried about this game and it turned out to be correct. Yes, we could've/should've scored but in all fairness, the 20 shots we had were well defended by QPR. A lot of credit goes to them for stopping us.

So we don't need to improve anything then ?

Obviously not, because that's what I said, wasn't it?

No, you never mentioned anything about it.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

64,
I like the attitude of Your post - positive towards future, don't look back and all that good - but luck has little to do with the few, but quite sumptous chances we have created, despite everything, and wasted.
When then Rags were the real rags, van Nistelboy would have won that game 100 out of 100.
So would have Gerd Muller's Bayern, Pablo Rossi Juventus, Santillana's RM.
I can be a negro, but not a gloryhunter and I don't care of winning shitloads, but we are not really there where we are aiming to. simple as that.

Ted,
not that I deny the usual merits of Your analysis, but just don't scratch my arsehole by comparing Barry with the ginger cunt: and not only because we are Blues and we hate the cunt, but because Barry, perhaps not the Aston Villa's barry, nor even the Hughes's Barry, but the last three years barry is the most magnificent British holding midfielder of the last 3 decades.
Then, we were tired last night, on that pitch, with that wind and all that... ok, what can we have expected by playing the same midfield personnel since Yaya left, moreso 3 days after a battle at Stoke? I know that the word "tired" ain't the most popular in the English Game, but players are men, and this is the most demanding league in world and of all times.

Also as for Dzeko, yesterday I was feeling quite the opposite - I mean, narrow pitch, heavy rain: usually Edin shines on wider grounds and the wet surface doesn't help his first touch either - but that's just a personal perception and I wouldn't insist on it, cuz You may be right, more that I do, as usual.

We need a specialist holding midfielder against ten defenders ? Lescott & Garcia were stood in QPRs half on many occasions.

Scholes would have pissed it last night at the age he is now, never mind at 25.

I'd have swapped Milner and Nasri around last night. Let Jimmy run the line, allowing Zaba to get forward and leave the probing passes through the middle from deep to Nasri.

[Ted Hughes]

64,
I like the attitude of Your post - positive towards future, don't look back and all that good - but luck has little to do with the few, but quite sumptous chances we have created, despite everything, and wasted.
When then Rags were the real rags, van Nistelboy would have won that game 100 out of 100.
So would have Gerd Muller's Bayern, Pablo Rossi Juventus, Santillana's RM.
I can be a negro, but not a gloryhunter and I don't care of winning shitloads, but we are not really there where we are aiming to. simple as that.

Ted,
not that I deny the usual merits of Your analysis, but just don't scratch my arsehole by comparing Barry with the ginger cunt: and not only because we are Blues and we hate the cunt, but because Barry, perhaps not the Aston Villa's barry, nor even the Hughes's Barry, but the last three years barry is the most magnificent British holding midfielder of the last 3 decades.
Then, we were tired last night, on that pitch, with that wind and all that... ok, what can we have expected by playing the same midfield personnel since Yaya left, moreso 3 days after a battle at Stoke? I know that the word "tired" ain't the most popular in the English Game, but players are men, and this is the most demanding league in world and of all times.

Also as for Dzeko, yesterday I was feeling quite the opposite - I mean, narrow pitch, heavy rain: usually Edin shines on wider grounds and the wet surface doesn't help his first touch either - but that's just a personal perception and I wouldn't insist on it, cuz You may be right, more that I do, as usual.

We need a specialist holding midfielder against ten defenders ? Lescott & Garcia were stood in QPRs half on many occasions.

Scholes would have pissed it last night at the age he is now, never mind at 25.

I'd have swapped Milner and Nasri around last night. Let Jimmy run the line, allowing Zaba to get forward and leave the probing passes through the middle from deep to Nasri.

I usually like Milner in the middle, but he was bobbins last night. Nasri could in theory do what you are suggesting but when he actually is asked to do something like that, he usually just taps the ball around & does fuck all.

A real world class player in place of him would transform the team imo.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Yep, the few occasions he's played central for us he hasn't really shined but when at Arsenal in the season before he joined us he played centrally when Cesc was injured and really impressed, probably the best football I've ever seen him play.

I don't think the role he's asked to play for us really suits him, I much prefer Jimmy in that role.

[Ted Hughes]

Yep, the few occasions he's played central for us he hasn't really shined but when at Arsenal in the season before he joined us he played centrally when Cesc was injured and really impressed, probably the best football I've ever seen him play.

I don't think the role he's asked to play for us really suits him, I much prefer Jimmy in that role.

He was exceptional for a period of time & has done that once or twice for us, but for both clubs, I think his routine performance is what we see now.

He's a bit like Mario in that everyone is always waiting for him to use the obvious talent he has but it rarely happens.

Picture a 25 year old Stephen Gerrard picking up the ball on the edge of the oppo penalty area where Nasri sometimes lurks, & imagine how many more goals we would score, from shots, rebounds & crosses.

We need dynamism like that. If we get it, to add to the quality we already have, we will be on another level to anything in this league & most of Europe. No more signing plodding Nasris or half arsed Marios & Dzekos.

Lets have a bit of urgency.

[Hazy2]

Yep, the few occasions he's played central for us he hasn't really shined but when at Arsenal in the season before he joined us he played centrally when Cesc was injured and really impressed, probably the best football I've ever seen him play.

I don't think the role he's asked to play for us really suits him, I much prefer Jimmy in that role.

He was exceptional for a period of time & has done that once or twice for us, but for both clubs, I think his routine performance is what we see now.

He's a bit like Mario in that everyone is always waiting for him to use the obvious talent he has but it rarely happens.

Picture a 25 year old Stephen Gerrard picking up the ball on the edge of the oppo penalty area where Nasri sometimes lurks, & imagine how many more goals we would score, from shots, rebounds & crosses.

We need dynamism like that. If we get it, to add to the quality we already have, we will be on another level to anything in this league & most of Europe. No more signing plodding Nasris or half arsed Marios & Dzekos.

Lets have a bit of urgency.

We need wins, no more draws no more cagey bollocks. Roberto has to take risks to make the Derby crucial to them.

[FA cup winners 2006]

For me there is only 1 problem and thats Mancini. With his mundane training sessions, he thinks football is a game of chess.

We have by far the best squad in the league, no other squad comes close but the players are not being used and trained to exploit the best of their ability. When Aguero signed, he was lethal, so sharp, a quick mind, everything was instinct. Now, he seems to have lost that instinct or spark that he had.

I cant understand why Mancini has to be so anal in training sessions by stopping the session and moving players a few yards here and there, if there is no intensity in the training games there is going to be none in the real games. Even world class players need to be practising at a pace if they are going to be expected to play at that level.

Look at united, weak in defence, weak in midfield, decent wingers and excellent front line, they do the same thing over and over again, work in down the channel and create space in the box and score. that comes from repeating the same exercise over and over again at pace and with an intensity.

[Cit.revenge]

For me there is only 1 problem and thats Mancini. With his mundane training sessions, he thinks football is a game of chess.

We have by far the best squad in the league, no other squad comes close but the players are not being used and trained to exploit the best of their ability. When Aguero signed, he was lethal, so sharp, a quick mind, everything was instinct. Now, he seems to have lost that instinct or spark that he had.

I cant understand why Mancini has to be so anal in training sessions by stopping the session and moving players a few yards here and there, if there is no intensity in the training games there is going to be none in the real games. Even world class players need to be practising at a pace if they are going to be expected to play at that level.

Look at united, weak in defence, weak in midfield, decent wingers and excellent front line, they do the same thing over and over again, work in down the channel and create space in the box and score. that comes from repeating the same exercise over and over again at pace and with an intensity.

Correct and we play one two for two season and u always know witch players silva ,tevez, aguero cover them and that is it , ball come on wing return back and if we try cross its going nowhere 80 % of the time like they never train that, rags put it on wing and hit somebody in head or low cross on Van pussy leg and they play more like team . Why we cant do that we first do not have wings second our crossing is awful and our strikers are out of form Aguero only 8 goals is in this season Tevez 9 and Edin 10 and Ballo 1 thats just to litlle but also our game is a bit read by other teams and even in such form we have good amaunt of points so if we can find some plan b ffs not just pass pass pass araund and araund we spend 30 min like that.

[Mase]

I reckon Dzeko is the problem.

[Cit.revenge]

I reckon Dzeko is the problem.

i really do not care if it is kick him out of the team but problem is there.

[Cit.revenge]

Well Arsenal can kiss CL goodbye :)

[zuricity]

We need a specialist holding midfielder against ten defenders ? Lescott & Garcia were stood in QPRs half on many occasions.

Scholes would have pissed it last night at the age he is now, never mind at 25.

scholes ? no he would not . Stop making silly statements .