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Re: Dzecko

Postby freshie » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:24 pm

On my way back to Manchester after going to white hart lane. To say I'm pissed off with Dzeko's abject performance would be an understatement. He cost us the game today as had we had a decent cf paired with Tevez the game would have been over at half time. I'm praying that we get rid of him this summer
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Re: Dzecko

Postby Sideshow Bob » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:41 pm

Clowncrete wrote:Image

Saw this on bluemoon describing his performance today.



Hhaha. Fantastic and spot on!!!!!
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Re: Dzecko

Postby MilnersJaw » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:11 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:he's putting the bo in bosnia

his play fucking stinks


Hahaha that sure 4 mend me laugh.
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Re: Dzecko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:49 am

ross.mcfc wrote:He is and always has been a square peg in a round hole in our side. I have no idea whose idea it was to sign him.

I think he is an excellent striker. But he is not a hold up or inter linking man. His touch is awful and he actaully slows our attacks down. He should be at the end of all these moves, not actaully involved in the build up. I am pretty sure if he played for Spurs with their style of play he would comfortably knock in 20 plus goals a season.

Sometimes certain players just do not fit in at a club. Like Torres and Chelsea. I hope he goes in the summer to a club where his style of play fits in. I wish him well but he will never be a key player at City.

I was having a discussion with a Rag and we compared him to Hernandez. If you look at Hernandez the only time he touches the ball is when he's shooting pretty much.
Dzeko's the same. He'd be great in a side which puts in a shit load of crosses but ask him to involve himself in build up and he may aswell be sat down on the pitch, he'd be as much use.
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Re: Dzecko

Postby sheblue » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:59 am

Tevez will probably be gone before him, which is a pity because tevez is a far better player better suited to our style. Dzeko didnt give a monkeys yesterday, and he was awful, even when we were in the lead he didn't try.
This is going to be a very important summer for signings, and we need to start with the lads up front.
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Re: Dzecko

Postby dazby » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:12 am

I've done my 'nana with him. I wanted him to come and I'm glad we got him but he just doesn't fit. We should trade him.
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Re: Dzecko

Postby gary james » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:50 am

dazby wrote:I've done my 'nana with him. I wanted him to come and I'm glad we got him but he just doesn't fit. We should trade him.


I agree. Week after week I've urged him on and tried to overlook the errors and lethargy (or at least that's how it looks), but it's time to stop. It says it all when we end up choosing to play Lescott as a striker (or Yaya in previous games) instead of someone who should be a true target man. I know his goal ratio is excellent, but that has disguised the issue that basically his approach is not right for our team (I'm not saying that's his fault though - it could simply be the wrong team for him).

It looked like his confidence had completely gone at times yesterday. I hate knocking a player, but he can't say he's not had chances and the support of fans.
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Re: Dzecko

Postby mcfc93 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:40 am

Well i guess Dzeko isnt suited for us. His not a dribbler and cant create his own chances unlike tevez or aguero. Which is why he frustrates us time and time again when he gets the ball outside the box as he has no chance at all of beating his man. What he needs to be doing is attacking the ball FIRST time(i.e. getting on the end of crosses) and NOT try to control it as he's first touch aint the best. Therefore a typical dzeko goal should be something like the one that dempsey scored against us yesterday and not an aguero-esque kind whereby it requires him to beat several man or hit a scorcher from distance. The solution would be some service from midfield as currently nobody is providing him with any. This brings up the winger issue again...we nid a winger who can cross the ball properly. So erm i think this means sinclair wouldnt be the answer we are looking for. On a side note i think we would also require some better CMs who can thread a pass. Currently Yaya's doing all the through passes and they arent rly up to scratch. Maybe we could get someone like fabregas. Pizarro too was gd for us last season...
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Re: Dzecko

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:45 am

mcfc93 wrote:Well i guess Dzeko isnt suited for us. His not a dribbler and cant create his own chances unlike tevez or aguero. Which is why he frustrates us time and time again when he gets the ball outside the box as he has no chance at all of beating his man. What he needs to be doing is attacking the ball FIRST time(i.e. getting on the end of crosses) and NOT try to control it as he's first touch aint the best. Therefore a typical dzeko goal should be something like the one that dempsey scored against us yesterday and not an aguero-esque kind whereby it requires him to beat several man or hit a scorcher from distance. The solution would be some service from midfield as currently nobody is providing him with any. This brings up the winger issue again...we nid a winger who can cross the ball properly. So erm i think this means sinclair wouldnt be the answer we are looking for. On a side note i think we would also require some better CMs who can thread a pass. Currently Yaya's doing all the through passes and they arent rly up to scratch. Maybe we could get someone like fabregas. Pizarro too was gd for us last season...


The problem is a lot of this whipped in goals require a striker that can be involved early and play a pass then turn and head for goal.

His touch slows us down and when he doesn't lose it he holds it and drifts wide. A simple lay back to yaya, Nasri or someone and turn and go and he's be fine.
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Re: Dzecko

Postby mcfc93 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:23 pm

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
mcfc93 wrote:Well i guess Dzeko isnt suited for us. His not a dribbler and cant create his own chances unlike tevez or aguero. Which is why he frustrates us time and time again when he gets the ball outside the box as he has no chance at all of beating his man. What he needs to be doing is attacking the ball FIRST time(i.e. getting on the end of crosses) and NOT try to control it as he's first touch aint the best. Therefore a typical dzeko goal should be something like the one that dempsey scored against us yesterday and not an aguero-esque kind whereby it requires him to beat several man or hit a scorcher from distance. The solution would be some service from midfield as currently nobody is providing him with any. This brings up the winger issue again...we nid a winger who can cross the ball properly. So erm i think this means sinclair wouldnt be the answer we are looking for. On a side note i think we would also require some better CMs who can thread a pass. Currently Yaya's doing all the through passes and they arent rly up to scratch. Maybe we could get someone like fabregas. Pizarro too was gd for us last season...


The problem is a lot of this whipped in goals require a striker that can be involved early and play a pass then turn and head for goal.

His touch slows us down and when he doesn't lose it he holds it and drifts wide. A simple lay back to yaya, Nasri or someone and turn and go and he's be fine.


Oh i was thinking more along the lines of him playing off the shoulder of the last defender. That wld mean less touches and dribbling for him before he takes a shot. I mean him receiving the ball early isnt exactly a good thing. Since he wld need to control it and look for a through pass rather then a simple pass. Becos a simple pass wld mean that the person receiving it still has some work to do like beating his man to whip the cross. I mean isnt the key for a whipped goal is for the crosser to get behind the fullbacks and send the ball in?
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Re: Dzecko

Postby Blue In Bolton » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:19 pm

I kind of agree with the issue of wingers and service but there was an occasion yesterday in the first half (can't remember who played the ball in) when a low cross was begging to be hit first time and Dzeko could not be bothered to get across his man at the near post for what would have been a relatively simple chance. This sums it up for me sadly and the sooner he is back in his comfort zone of the Bundesliga, the better.
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Re: Dzecko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:37 pm

When he first signed for us I said he had the touch of a rapist. Perhaps on reflection I was being kind to him. I've never seen a professional footballer so unable to trap a ball. Every time he scores a few goals, he looks like he may be the real deal and then returns to being shite.

He's either world class or horrificly bad and very little inbetween.

As someone else summed up. Square peg, round hole.
Move him on in the summer. Wish him well and very grateful for some of his goals especially against the Rags and QPR but we need someone with more consistency.
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Re: Dzecko

Postby zuricity » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:24 pm

Blue In Bolton wrote:I kind of agree with the issue of wingers and service but there was an occasion yesterday in the first half (can't remember who played the ball in) when a low cross was begging to be hit first time and Dzeko could not be bothered to get across his man at the near post for what would have been a relatively simple chance. This sums it up for me sadly and the sooner he is back in his comfort zone of the Bundesliga, the better.


All the time Edin has been with us, i've been very reluctant to criticise him. i watched him develop and hone his skills in the Bundesliga. Edin is a great player.

There are many reasons why , to me Edin put in such an abject performance yesterday. I think it has been like a time bomb ticking and waiting to go off. Quite simply yesterday he couldn't be arsed.

I think he has already accepted he will not be with us next season .
Whilst we moan about him from yesterday. This was the guy who nailed Spurs last season , almost singlehandedly . Only to be dumped by Roberto the next week

Again final fame last season , he pulled off the equaliser. Sparked the two minute rush to the title.

I think Roberto has let him down badly since he came . Time and time again he rescued the points when a lethargic Balo, or a greedy Kun weren't doing the business.

I want him to stay, but i can't see it happening,as is often said we need plans B , C etc

Yesterday that performance stank of a 'Want out of this' attitude .

It's a shame because Roberto has got to drum into the Latin players not to always look for each other. Too often Silva has looked for Kun or Carlos, Carlos for anyone but Edin .

This has to stop , at times ( not yesterday) Edin has been in the right position , nay best position but our latin players have chosen the complicated rather than the bleedin' obvious.

Edin , often times plays alone up front , not as a lone striker.

Edin will score goals, he is a great striker.

As Roberto says, i worry about 'this' .

if he's here next season then it's not just Edin that has to change and improve, to get the best out of him
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Re: Dzecko

Postby clawbaggio » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:52 pm

Fair play to him for scoring v QPR but he could still have moved on for me this summer. We may have got Van Pussy if he'd fucked off.
On Sunday he played like he wasn't arsed and had already accepted he was on his way out.
He moans when he's sub but every time he starts he plays like he doesn't give a fuck.
First touch so bad his second should be a sliding tackle
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Re: Dzecko

Postby maxxi » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:25 pm

Can not believe its only took people this long to realise what dzeko is really like. He is fucking shite, been playing like that every game, it wasn't a one off. He's been a disgrace all season. Point at the name on the back of your shirt somewhere else. Your not wanted here!
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Re: Dzecko

Postby zuricity » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:28 pm

maxxi wrote:Can not believe its only took people this long to realise what dzeko is really like. He is fucking shite, been playing like that every game, it wasn't a one off. He's been a disgrace all season. Point at the name on the back of your shirt somewhere else. Your not wanted here!


are you watching the rags right now ?
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Re: Dzecko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:34 pm

zuricity wrote:
Blue In Bolton wrote:I kind of agree with the issue of wingers and service but there was an occasion yesterday in the first half (can't remember who played the ball in) when a low cross was begging to be hit first time and Dzeko could not be bothered to get across his man at the near post for what would have been a relatively simple chance. This sums it up for me sadly and the sooner he is back in his comfort zone of the Bundesliga, the better.


All the time Edin has been with us, i've been very reluctant to criticise him. i watched him develop and hone his skills in the Bundesliga. Edin is a great player.

There are many reasons why , to me Edin put in such an abject performance yesterday. I think it has been like a time bomb ticking and waiting to go off. Quite simply yesterday he couldn't be arsed.

I think he has already accepted he will not be with us next season .
Whilst we moan about him from yesterday. This was the guy who nailed Spurs last season , almost singlehandedly . Only to be dumped by Roberto the next week

Again final fame last season , he pulled off the equaliser. Sparked the two minute rush to the title.

I think Roberto has let him down badly since he came . Time and time again he rescued the points when a lethargic Balo, or a greedy Kun weren't doing the business.

I want him to stay, but i can't see it happening,as is often said we need plans B , C etc

Yesterday that performance stank of a 'Want out of this' attitude .

It's a shame because Roberto has got to drum into the Latin players not to always look for each other. Too often Silva has looked for Kun or Carlos, Carlos for anyone but Edin .

This has to stop , at times ( not yesterday) Edin has been in the right position , nay best position but our latin players have chosen the complicated rather than the bleedin' obvious.

Edin , often times plays alone up front , not as a lone striker.

Edin will score goals, he is a great striker.

As Roberto says, i worry about 'this' .

if he's here next season then it's not just Edin that has to change and improve, to get the best out of him

You have a point, but players not passing to him when they should does not explain why he can't control a 5 yard pass and has one of the worst first touches in the league.

In the Premier League the first touch is vital as you get little time on the ball. It was awful when he came and hasn't got any better.
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Re: Dzecko

Postby zuricity » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:45 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:You have a point, but players not passing to him when they should does not explain why he can't control a 5 yard pass and has one of the worst first touches in the league.

In the Premier League the first touch is vital as you get little time on the ball. It was awful when he came and hasn't got any better.


We all know about the first touch .
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Re: Dzecko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:48 pm

zuricity wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:You have a point, but players not passing to him when they should does not explain why he can't control a 5 yard pass and has one of the worst first touches in the league.

In the Premier League the first touch is vital as you get little time on the ball. It was awful when he came and hasn't got any better.


We all know about the first touch .

For that reason alone he can't be classed as a 'great' striker.
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Re: Dzecko

Postby freshie » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:13 pm

zuricity wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:You have a point, but players not passing to him when they should does not explain why he can't control a 5 yard pass and has one of the worst first touches in the league.

In the Premier League the first touch is vital as you get little time on the ball. It was awful when he came and hasn't got any better.


We all know about the first touch .


If his first touch is a shot on goal then it's generally ok, however, with the style of football Mancini wants the team to play this is rarely the case and he has to be involved in the build up play. Since his first touch is so poor you can understand why his teammates are reluctant to pass to him. I've tried to support him as I would do with all of our players but after his pathetic display on Sunday which showed absolutely no desire or commitment (the bare minimum that I would expect from any of our players) I have finally run out of patience with him. I would be extremely glad to see the back of him in the summer and replaced by a striker like Cavani or Falcao
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