Very Concerned

[Blue Since 76]

7 games on 21 days is exactly what we need. It will come good.

Well in three weeks, this will either have looked like a blip and we'll be into our stride, or we'll be hoping for a kind draw in the FA Cup. Squeaky bum time has come early.

[Beefymcfc]

Pellers looked a little lost on the side today and I felt a little sorry for him. It's as if he's been told how we should play and he cannot divert from the script.

We all know Pellers is a decent manager as we've all looked at his CV. Any manager of his ilk would change things to suit his needs but it looks like his needs aren't being suited.

We play one way and one way only.

If he'd been told how to play, we would be playing 4-3-3.

Perhaps they should tell him how to play.

If that's the case then he needs to get his head out of the sand mate. Every single one of us can see the basics aren't working and we'd probably change it up to esure we at least showed an inkling of appreciation for the game.

I understand that it takes time but why completely change a system rather than evolving it, utilising the good whilst bringing on the bad?

Pellers was brought in to oversee a change in accordance with the new partnership at the top. What I'm not seeing is evidence of this 'holistic' view where we see the players smiling and the youngsters coming on. Afterall, we finished 2nd last season and made a Cup Final with a disenchanted bunch. Alls we needed was the arm around the shoulder approach to become the force that many have touted us for. From what I'm seeing, the arm around the shoulder isn't working so Pellers needs to start using the stick to put a little fear into them.

Time will tell.

[Ted Hughes]

Pellers looked a little lost on the side today and I felt a little sorry for him. It's as if he's been told how we should play and he cannot divert from the script.

We all know Pellers is a decent manager as we've all looked at his CV. Any manager of his ilk would change things to suit his needs but it looks like his needs aren't being suited.

We play one way and one way only.

If he'd been told how to play, we would be playing 4-3-3.

Perhaps they should tell him how to play.

If that's the case then he needs to get his head out of the sand mate. Every single one of us can see the basics aren't working and we'd probably change it up to esure we at least showed an inkling of appreciation for the game.

I understand that it takes time but why completely change a system rather than evolving it, utilising the good whilst bringing on the bad?

Pellers was brought in to oversee a change in accordance with the new partnership at the top. What I'm not seeing is evidence of this 'holistic' view where we see the players smiling and the youngsters coming on. Afterall, we finished 2nd last season and made a Cup Final with a disenchanted bunch. Alls we needed was the arm around the shoulder approach to become the force that many have touted us for. From what I'm seeing, the arm around the shoulder isn't working so Pellers needs to start using the stick to put a little fear into them.

Time will tell.

That 'Hollistic' approach as far as the kids are concerned is for the future, not for right now. It will happen under whichever manager is here at the time the young players start to show.

Pellegrini should revert back to our earlier Mancini style system of defending, with 1 or 2 players protecting the back 4 etc imo. Then gradually change over, perhaps from the end of the season ready for next season. He is doing too many things at once & the players aren't getting it.

I don't think he will change, but he may just calm down his tactical bollox for a while & reach a compromise.

If he doesn't then it will be down to him either being fantastic at his job & the team suddenly getting it, or purely down to whether Tricky has belief/patience that he can do it in time for next season.

At the moment, the players are getting it wrong in almost every aspect & it's just a shambles.

[Beefymcfc]

Pellers looked a little lost on the side today and I felt a little sorry for him. It's as if he's been told how we should play and he cannot divert from the script.

We all know Pellers is a decent manager as we've all looked at his CV. Any manager of his ilk would change things to suit his needs but it looks like his needs aren't being suited.

We play one way and one way only.

If he'd been told how to play, we would be playing 4-3-3.

Perhaps they should tell him how to play.

If that's the case then he needs to get his head out of the sand mate. Every single one of us can see the basics aren't working and we'd probably change it up to esure we at least showed an inkling of appreciation for the game.

I understand that it takes time but why completely change a system rather than evolving it, utilising the good whilst bringing on the bad?

Pellers was brought in to oversee a change in accordance with the new partnership at the top. What I'm not seeing is evidence of this 'holistic' view where we see the players smiling and the youngsters coming on. Afterall, we finished 2nd last season and made a Cup Final with a disenchanted bunch. Alls we needed was the arm around the shoulder approach to become the force that many have touted us for. From what I'm seeing, the arm around the shoulder isn't working so Pellers needs to start using the stick to put a little fear into them.

Time will tell.

That 'Hollistic' approach as far as the kids are concerned is for the future, not for right now. It will happen under whichever manager is here at the time the young players start to show.

Pellegrini should revert back to our earlier Mancini style system of defending, with 1 or 2 players protecting the back 4 etc imo. Then gradually change over, perhaps from the end of the season ready for next season. He is doing too many things at once & the players aren't getting it.

I don't think he will change, but he may just calm down his tactical bollox for a while & reach a compromise.

If he doesn't then it will be down to him either being fantastic at his job & the team suddenly getting it, or purely down to whether Tricky has belief/patience that he can do it in time for next season.

At the moment, the players are getting it wrong in almost every aspect & it's just a shambles.

Agreed but tat the same time Txiki has to take some of the brunt, as he will take the plaudits if it pays off.

[Breks]

Yes we where terrible last season there was only 18 teams below us, how shit are we.

[MilnersJaw]

Remember after the Newcastle game someone made a thread calling the two spanish guys geniuses.

[Original Dub]

I already said as much, no point harking back to the halcyon days, we are shit again and will be for a while. I have accepted it.

You are painfully predictable.

Four games in and you're calling the manager a clown?

Get out of mancini's arse will you ffs.

[Original Dub]

Remember after the Newcastle game someone made a thread calling the two spanish guys geniuses.

You should bump that thread. I can't remember that at all.

[CHOPPERmcfc]

Chelski have the worst start under Abramovich, with an experienced premiership manager.

The Filth haven't started too hot with an experienced premiership manager.

We are sitting 4th in the league at the moment, the top 3 clubs above us have managers with at least 3+ years of premier league experience.

While we haven't had the best of starts and it certainly isn't pretty at the moment, it's far from catastrophic. We have injuries to key players, new players needing to fit into a new system of play, now is the right time to be making mistakes and finding form as a squad as other teams simply aren't capitalising as they are in the same boat. It's a period of transition, we all know we have the players so its up to the boss to sort it out.

Give him time, or become part of the circus of revolving managers and start from square one every couple of seasons! We need to buck the trend. That being said, he's 60 now anyway so how much time does he have left in him?

[Beefymcfc]

Chelski have the worst start under Abramovich, with an experienced premiership manager.

The Filth haven't started too hot with an experienced premiership manager.

We are sitting 4th in the league at the moment, the top 3 clubs above us have managers with at least 3+ years of premier league experience.

While we haven't had the best of starts and it certainly isn't pretty at the moment, it's far from catastrophic. We have injuries to key players, new players needing to fit into a new system of play, now is the right time to be making mistakes and finding form as a squad as other teams simply aren't capitalising as they are in the same boat. It's a period of transition, we all know we have the players so its up to the boss to sort it out.

Give him time, or become part of the circus of revolving managers and start from square one every couple of seasons! We need to buck the trend. That being said, he's 60 now anyway so how much time does he have left in him?

I don't think anybody is after the managers head, I'm pretty sure all of us want him to succeed. However, we are here to debate the issues and from what we have seen, there are many.

I wouldn't want to compare us to any of the top teams at the moment because we are looking far more the inferior. We're still there though and I reckon we've got the biggest chance of improvement. On our day, with our players, we can beat anybody in the league, it's just a matter of putting it together and understanding the system.

[Ted Hughes]

Chelski have the worst start under Abramovich, with an experienced premiership manager.

The Filth haven't started too hot with an experienced premiership manager.

We are sitting 4th in the league at the moment, the top 3 clubs above us have managers with at least 3+ years of premier league experience.

While we haven't had the best of starts and it certainly isn't pretty at the moment, it's far from catastrophic. We have injuries to key players, new players needing to fit into a new system of play, now is the right time to be making mistakes and finding form as a squad as other teams simply aren't capitalising as they are in the same boat. It's a period of transition, we all know we have the players so its up to the boss to sort it out.

Give him time, or become part of the circus of revolving managers and start from square one every couple of seasons! We need to buck the trend. That being said, he's 60 now anyway so how much time does he have left in him?

I don't think anybody is after the managers head, I'm pretty sure all of us want him to succeed. However, we are here to debate the issues and from what we have seen, there are many.

I wouldn't want to compare us to any of the top teams at the moment because we are looking far more the inferior. We're still there though and I reckon we've got the biggest chance of improvement. On our day, with our players, we can beat anybody in the league, it's just a matter of putting it together and understanding the system.

I would say we still looked better than the rags. For all our faults, Stoke ran their balls off on a tight pitch & played well.

Palace produced one of the most inept displays I've ever seen but rags still needed & pen & free kick in order to beat them.

Rags look as bad or worse than us at the back imo. Wide open.

[MilnersJaw]

While on paper our results, stats and league position so far don't look that bad after x amount of games. The actual play looks terrible and dire to watch, that's more worrying, been so lucky with the opposition not scoring.

[Rag_hater]

While on paper our results, stats and league position so far don't look that bad after x amount of games. The actual play looks terrible and dire to watch, that's more worrying, been so lucky with the opposition not scoring.

The oppo did not score because we did not let them and,if they had I am sure we would have raised our game enough to get the same results we have had.

[Twobob]

The oppo did not score because we did not let them and,if they had I am sure we would have raised our game enough to get the same results we have had.

Worked wonders against Cardiff. We've played teams that will be in te bottom half of the table come the end of the season, if not close to relegation, they're battlers but we should be able to contain their forward players.

The real test will be against top half of the table teams.

[Ted Hughes]

The oppo did not score because we did not let them and,if they had I am sure we would have raised our game enough to get the same results we have had.

Worked wonders against Cardiff. We've played teams that will be in te bottom half of the table come the end of the season, if not close to relegation, they're battlers but we should be able to contain their forward players.

The real test will be against top half of the table teams.

They will also have to test their defences against us if they want to beat us. We have been playing against teams who have run their balls off trying to keep us out. Most of the the 'top' teams, like us, have players with talent who also like to take a breather when the oppo has the ball.

We have some serious options going forward for any team who wants to take us on. All of them look poor defensively to me.

[Rag_hater]

The oppo did not score because we did not let them and,if they had I am sure we would have raised our game enough to get the same results we have had.

Worked wonders against Cardiff. We've played teams that will be in te bottom half of the table come the end of the season, if not close to relegation, they're battlers but we should be able to contain their forward players.

The real test will be against top half of the table teams.

Cardiff got lucky (they hardly ran us of the park, made Joe MOM)and where they are gonna be at the end of the season them taking points of us is a concern but not a huge one

[Beefymcfc]

Chelski have the worst start under Abramovich, with an experienced premiership manager.

The Filth haven't started too hot with an experienced premiership manager.

We are sitting 4th in the league at the moment, the top 3 clubs above us have managers with at least 3+ years of premier league experience.

While we haven't had the best of starts and it certainly isn't pretty at the moment, it's far from catastrophic. We have injuries to key players, new players needing to fit into a new system of play, now is the right time to be making mistakes and finding form as a squad as other teams simply aren't capitalising as they are in the same boat. It's a period of transition, we all know we have the players so its up to the boss to sort it out.

Give him time, or become part of the circus of revolving managers and start from square one every couple of seasons! We need to buck the trend. That being said, he's 60 now anyway so how much time does he have left in him?

I don't think anybody is after the managers head, I'm pretty sure all of us want him to succeed. However, we are here to debate the issues and from what we have seen, there are many.

I wouldn't want to compare us to any of the top teams at the moment because we are looking far more the inferior. We're still there though and I reckon we've got the biggest chance of improvement. On our day, with our players, we can beat anybody in the league, it's just a matter of putting it together and understanding the system.

I would say we still looked better than the rags. For all our faults, Stoke ran their balls off on a tight pitch & played well.

Palace produced one of the most inept displays I've ever seen but rags still needed & pen & free kick in order to beat them.

Rags look as bad or worse than us at the back imo. Wide open.

It's all about opinion mate but from watching most of the games regarding the top teams, I'd say we're at the bottom of that list at the moment. In fact, even though we are 4th you could say we are joint 8th with our contenders already having played far more difficult games.

I thought yesterdays game was vital for us going forward and I'd have taken the result. What I wasn't expecting was the performance again and that's what worries people, especially going into the Derby.

[Bleed_Blue]

I feel that the players are feeling Lethargic, there is no active defending and active attacking. Previously Tevez used to up the pace a bit with active runs and taking ball from midfield to attack.

Now the ball just doesnt go any farther than midfield, esp not when Navas is on bench

Watching teams like Bayern, Real, etc..the keep moving the ball so fast, dont we practice that any more ?

I am sure the team will up the momentum for derby but after that they again loose it. We are putting up pathetic display against piss poor teams, who do only defending and counter attack.

[Ted Hughes]

Chelski have the worst start under Abramovich, with an experienced premiership manager.

The Filth haven't started too hot with an experienced premiership manager.

We are sitting 4th in the league at the moment, the top 3 clubs above us have managers with at least 3+ years of premier league experience.

While we haven't had the best of starts and it certainly isn't pretty at the moment, it's far from catastrophic. We have injuries to key players, new players needing to fit into a new system of play, now is the right time to be making mistakes and finding form as a squad as other teams simply aren't capitalising as they are in the same boat. It's a period of transition, we all know we have the players so its up to the boss to sort it out.

Give him time, or become part of the circus of revolving managers and start from square one every couple of seasons! We need to buck the trend. That being said, he's 60 now anyway so how much time does he have left in him?

I don't think anybody is after the managers head, I'm pretty sure all of us want him to succeed. However, we are here to debate the issues and from what we have seen, there are many.

I wouldn't want to compare us to any of the top teams at the moment because we are looking far more the inferior. We're still there though and I reckon we've got the biggest chance of improvement. On our day, with our players, we can beat anybody in the league, it's just a matter of putting it together and understanding the system.

I would say we still looked better than the rags. For all our faults, Stoke ran their balls off on a tight pitch & played well.

Palace produced one of the most inept displays I've ever seen but rags still needed & pen & free kick in order to beat them.

Rags look as bad or worse than us at the back imo. Wide open.

It's all about opinion mate but from watching most of the games regarding the top teams, I'd say we're at the bottom of that list at the moment. In fact, even though we are 4th you could say we are joint 8th with our contenders already having played far more difficult games.

I thought yesterdays game was vital for us going forward and I'd have taken the result. What I wasn't expecting was the performance again and that's what worries people, especially going into the Derby.

I agree we are most possibly worse off than 4th, because we have still to go to the swamp, Anfield & Goodison but our rivals have had some of those games alrady. Yet I made the exact same point early last season after certain results & got told I was talking shite.

I don't get why people ever thought Garcia/Nastasic/Kolarov, Rodwell/Milner, Jovetic on debut was likely to win at Stoke though. Mancini never won there in the league with a much stronger side & got knocked out of the cup on one occasion, after playing them twice.

This was a desperate selection to avoid injury to key players.

The Cardiff game is of more concern to me, as it was a stronger side.

[Sideshow Bob]

Very disappointing debut for jovetic yesterday considering he had had weeks to train and get fit.