Aleks Kolarov: Redeemed?

[Cocacolajojo1]

I like how a good discussion topic turns into an even better one. I can't be arsed to get involved with that one though.

Kolarov's a strange one. He will forever be a defensive nightmare to us and whenever he's really put to the test, we will want to kill him. But in this team, when the sheer attacking force of our team and style will push most of our opponents back and won't leave Kolarov exposed, he is bound to shine doing what he does best: Attack. Our break aways and our constant passing will leave him alone with his opposing right back over and over again and then he'll finally succeed with his cruyff-trick and then throw it in to Aguero who is also thriving from having an increased frequence of crosses from Kolarov.

I agree with the op, he's very much improved but I think it's more a case of the right man at the right place at the right time, whereas it was the complete opposite situation under Mancini. Kolarov and Pellegrini were made for each other. That's my take on it anyway.

[dazby]

I like how a good discussion topic turns into an even better one. I can't be arsed to get involved with that one though.

Kolarov's a strange one. He will forever be a defensive nightmare to us and whenever he's really put to the test, we will want to kill him. But in this team, when the sheer attacking force of our team and style will push most of our opponents back and won't leave Kolarov exposed, he is bound to shine doing what he does best: Attack. Our break aways and our constant passing will leave him alone with his opposing right back over and over again and then he'll finally succeed with his cruyff-trick and then throw it in to Aguero who is also thriving from having an increased frequence of crosses from Kolarov.

I agree with the op, he's very much improved but I think it's more a case of the right man at the right place at the right time, whereas it was the complete opposite situation under Mancini. Kolarov and Pellegrini were made for each other. That's my take on it anyway.

I agree mate. With him in the side we'll concede one but he'll score and set up one too.

[bigblue]

Were you not saying how disrespectful it was for fans to leave early? But it's not disrespectful to dish out shit to the players?

Our own fans were giving one of our players shit. If you give shit to someone don't go crying like a little girl when they give it back.

What are you replying to? Nothing I wrote was crying or complaining in any way. You're a fish out of water when you stray from defending the rags.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Were you not saying how disrespectful it was for fans to leave early? But it's not disrespectful to dish out shit to the players?

Our own fans were giving one of our players shit. If you give shit to someone don't go crying like a little girl when they give it back.

What are you replying to? Nothing I wrote was crying or complaining in any way. You're a fish out of water when you stray from defending the rags.

Ha. Good one.

[nottsblue]

He will be redeemed when he defends better. Not before. He is an International defender. Posing an attacking threat whilst being able to defend is a pre-requisite for me. For his price I expect a bit more in the attacking half as well as better defending. The opinion he has improved is irrelevant as all that shows is how poor he must have been before

[Alioune DVToure]

He will be redeemed when he defends better. Not before. He is an International defender. Posing an attacking threat whilst being able to defend is a pre-requisite for me. For his price I expect a bit more in the attacking half as well as better defending. The opinion he has improved is irrelevant as all that shows is how poor he must have been before

A bit more? He'd laid on three chances today already, all of which should've been buried. He's ace going forward.

[nottsblue]

He will be redeemed when he defends better. Not before. He is an International defender. Posing an attacking threat whilst being able to defend is a pre-requisite for me. For his price I expect a bit more in the attacking half as well as better defending. The opinion he has improved is irrelevant as all that shows is how poor he must have been before

A bit more? He'd laid on three chances today already, all of which should've been buried. He's ace going forward.

He may well be having a good game today and just of late but i still reckon he can be more consistent. I like him as it goes but he is a frustrating player sometimes

[Ted Hughes]

Kolarov was attacking midfield today & did it well. We should have won early due to his crosses.

As a fullback, he was basically not there, hardly ever.

[Grimble101]

Also the fact that he only jogs back after being late into most tackles waving his arms as if he's done fuck all wrong if he had the fight to and hunger to run faster he could be a very good player indeed

[Mase]

I don't particularly like him.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Kolarov was attacking midfield today & did it well. We should have won early due to his crosses.

As a fullback, he was basically not there, hardly ever.

A little bit black and white Ted but I know what you mean.He was certainly a threat going forward and we should certainly have scored one from his work.Shame Edin hit the keeper from the best chance he provided. In defence I was a bit worried when he was back in position but somehow they just got through on that side with total ease.

Overall though Kolarov is a good part of the team and doing a good job.On top of that he is one of the characters in the squad that all squads need.

[kinkylola]

For some people that may include hurling abuse at players. In fact, as you will find in a football match, for many people it does. As long as it's not racist I'm fine with it. Funnily enough, lot of players do it to each other as well. I don't do it because I get zero satisfaction out of it but can relate to it. If watching football for you doesn't involve deep emotions like that then that's fine as well. I don't give a shit. But people who have paid their ticket are well within their means to call a spade a spade and let's face it, Kolarov has been utter shite for us throughout his career even if little less shite this season.

I just don't accept that buying a ticket absolves a person of responsibility for their actions, no matter how shit their home life is, and if you call someone a cunt to their face, you should be prepared for a response. That's a pretty basic precept of society.

we have a pretty fundamental difference in opinion, and neither one of us will be swayed, so not much else to say.

[twosips]

Agree ^

Find it weird that some people think that by spending a bit of money it means that they're effectively negating other's rights to be treated properly, and that they can then dish out whatever abuse they want to people. Bit odd really. They are after all just people like any of us doing a job.... you wouldn't go and see a play, take a distaste to an actor's performance and then hurl abuse at them as a result.

I agree that there's little harm done with a little blowing off steam and kinda cries of frustration or whatever, but i have heard some pretty harsh and nasty things from the terraces. It gets pretty nasty and vindictive at times.

Anyway - im aware im a very liberal leftie and i can actually see the other side of the argument, even if i dont agree with it.

Back on topic - kolarov's a good squad player and that's it. He's definitely not the solution for me, nor is clichy for what its worth. We need a PZ for the left back slot, which wont be easy to find but we should be looking.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Back on topic, I don't understand what has happened to Clichy. He has sank to same level of defending he had with Arsenal.

If it came down to that, I'd be more comfortable with Clichy going forward despite Kolarov's attacking skills.

[kinkylola]

Back on topic, I don't understand what has happened to Clichy. He has sank to same level of defending he had with Arsenal.

If it came down to that, I'd be more comfortable with Clichy going forward despite Kolarov's attacking skills.

right now I see clichy and kola about the same defensively ... but kola is much better going forward, and a threat from set pieces. It's hard to say what has happened for clichy, even though he is faster than kola, he gets beat just as frequently, and also in situations where speed would be a huge advantage ... like fulham's first goal on the break. No idea what he was doing, but he could have just run with taraabt and it would have caused him to either cut in towards our other defenders tracking back, or stay wide. I was baffled.

As it stands now, kola should definitely be playing unless clichy steps his game up defensively. But if it stays as is, I would have a new left back in and move glichy on, not kola.

Put simple, though still not awesome quality, kola has been improving ... clichy has been regressing.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Could easily have had two assists if we had finished better. Fantastic going forward and no worse than clichy at defending.

[Tokyo Blue]

Could easily have had two assists if we had finished better. Fantastic going forward and no worse than clichy at defending.

How would you say he compares to evra? I imagine you might be in a good position to answer this.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Could easily have had two assists if we had finished better. Fantastic going forward and no worse than clichy at defending.

How would you say he compares to evra? I imagine you might be in a good position to answer this.

Oh you funny, funny guy.
I'll answer anyway, yes better than Evra.

[clawbaggio]

He's doing another Christmas greeting for the website tomorrow.
I hope it's as good as his Jingle Bells ditty.

[Twobob]

He's doing another Christmas greeting for the website tomorrow. I hope it's as good as his Jingle Bells ditty.

Just watched it, it scared the fuck out of me! I think Santa's going to kick the shit out of me on Chrimbo eve!