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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby BlueinBosnia » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:15 pm

citoeast wrote:It is totally irrelevant whether or not you have a disability or whether or not you think the remarks are offensive.

You are a coward making them hidden behind a keyboard. If not removed within 24 hours I will report the thread to the police, you were asked nicely.

It is because of the offensive nature of the thread title thatI posted.

Call my bluff and you will regret it, that is my promise to you - you will get a knock on you door from the police.

Do the decent thing and remove hate is hate even if you are just repeating what others said, same for racism you repeat it YOU offend.


I can tell you now that the police won't 'knock on his door'.

I can also guess that even if they were to, one quick look at his mobility aids would mean that they wouldn't censure him in any way.
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby South Stand Balti » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:18 pm

twosips wrote:Well this has escalated quickly. Quite fun actually...

*grabs popcorn*

Salted or sweet?
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby ruralblue » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:20 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
citoeast wrote:It is totally irrelevant whether or not you have a disability or whether or not you think the remarks are offensive.

You are a coward making them hidden behind a keyboard. If not removed within 24 hours I will report the thread to the police, you were asked nicely.

It is because of the offensive nature of the thread title thatI posted.

Call my bluff and you will regret it, that is my promise to you - you will get a knock on you door from the police.

Do the decent thing and remove hate is hate even if you are just repeating what others said, same for racism you repeat it YOU offend.


I can tell you now that the police won't 'knock on his door'.

I can also guess that even if they were to, one quick look at his mobility aids would mean that they wouldn't censure him in any way.


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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby BlueinBosnia » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:26 pm

Well, at least we now know the real reason Stuart Pearce was fired...
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby twosips » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:27 pm

South Stand Balti wrote:
twosips wrote:Well this has escalated quickly. Quite fun actually...

*grabs popcorn*

Salted or sweet?


Sweet. Always sweet.

Can't have salt getting into some of the wounds open around here.
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby South Stand Balti » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:31 pm

twosips wrote:
South Stand Balti wrote:
twosips wrote:Well this has escalated quickly. Quite fun actually...

*grabs popcorn*

Salted or sweet?


Sweet. Always sweet.

Can't have salt getting into some of the wounds open around here.

Lol
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby freshie » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:45 pm

citoeast wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
citoeast wrote:The use of the word spastic in the title is totally inappropriate. This is an offensive and abusive term to those with disability. Have some decency and change it.


I won't be changing the thread title for a few reasons.

Firstly, calling someone who clearly isn't disabled, a spastic, is highly unlikely to be particularly offensive to him, (rather important given he is the one being called a spastic wouldn't you say?).

Secondly, I have a serious physical disability - I don't find the term
Spastic, spaz, spacker, cripple etc offensive, and friends frequently (and often inappropriately) call it me when they see me walking with crutches or walking with difficulty without them, so please don't pretend to speak for people 'with disability' - you don't. As a person 'with disability' I actually find your patronising and labelling rather offensive in itself.

Finally, the term is not me randomly calling him a spastic, it is an ironic reference to a comment another poster made about Dzeko some time ago (As explained in my 2nd post on this thread) I appreciate if you didn't see the original thread this refers to, you don't get that context.

However, if you're so easily offended that you feel the strong need to post for the first time since November 2012 to complain about another post, despite all the wonderful things at city you could have commented on in the 2 years since your last post, perhaps you have your priorities somewhat wrong for being a member of a manchester city forum.

Of course if the lads feel I've overstepped the mark, they are more than welcome to change the thread title


Quite frankly I find your remarks personally offensive.

It is totally irrelevant whether or not you have a disability or whether or not you think the remarks are offensive.

You are a coward making them hidden behind a keyboard. If not removed within 24 hours I will report the thread to the police, you were asked nicely.

It is because of the offensive nature of the thread title thatI posted.

Call my bluff and you will regret it, that is my promise to you - you will get a knock on you door from the police.

Do the decent thing and remove hate is hate even if you are just repeating what others said, same for racism you repeat it YOU offend.


FFS! Haha this is ridiculous! Congratulations for making me laugh anyway

Could this be the first 'Classic' thread of 2015?
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:51 pm

And this is why you can't skip a thread around here.
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby Dameerto » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:04 pm

citoeast wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
citoeast wrote:The use of the word spastic in the title is totally inappropriate. This is an offensive and abusive term to those with disability. Have some decency and change it.


I won't be changing the thread title for a few reasons.

Firstly, calling someone who clearly isn't disabled, a spastic, is highly unlikely to be particularly offensive to him, (rather important given he is the one being called a spastic wouldn't you say?).

Secondly, I have a serious physical disability - I don't find the term
Spastic, spaz, spacker, cripple etc offensive, and friends frequently (and often inappropriately) call it me when they see me walking with crutches or walking with difficulty without them, so please don't pretend to speak for people 'with disability' - you don't. As a person 'with disability' I actually find your patronising and labelling rather offensive in itself.

Finally, the term is not me randomly calling him a spastic, it is an ironic reference to a comment another poster made about Dzeko some time ago (As explained in my 2nd post on this thread) I appreciate if you didn't see the original thread this refers to, you don't get that context.

However, if you're so easily offended that you feel the strong need to post for the first time since November 2012 to complain about another post, despite all the wonderful things at city you could have commented on in the 2 years since your last post, perhaps you have your priorities somewhat wrong for being a member of a manchester city forum.

Of course if the lads feel I've overstepped the mark, they are more than welcome to change the thread title


Quite frankly I find your remarks personally offensive.

It is totally irrelevant whether or not you have a disability or whether or not you think the remarks are offensive.

You are a coward making them hidden behind a keyboard. If not removed within 24 hours I will report the thread to the police, you were asked nicely.

It is because of the offensive nature of the thread title thatI posted.

Call my bluff and you will regret it, that is my promise to you - you will get a knock on you door from the police.

Do the decent thing and remove hate is hate even if you are just repeating what others said, same for racism you repeat it YOU offend.


You might as well report me too because I'm calling you a fucking clueless moron - sorry if that offends the delicate wall flower morons of this world - actually no I'm not. Fuck you.
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:16 pm

citoeast wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
citoeast wrote:The use of the word spastic in the title is totally inappropriate. This is an offensive and abusive term to those with disability. Have some decency and change it.


I won't be changing the thread title for a few reasons.

Firstly, calling someone who clearly isn't disabled, a spastic, is highly unlikely to be particularly offensive to him, (rather important given he is the one being called a spastic wouldn't you say?).

Secondly, I have a serious physical disability - I don't find the term
Spastic, spaz, spacker, cripple etc offensive, and friends frequently (and often inappropriately) call it me when they see me walking with crutches or walking with difficulty without them, so please don't pretend to speak for people 'with disability' - you don't. As a person 'with disability' I actually find your patronising and labelling rather offensive in itself.

Finally, the term is not me randomly calling him a spastic, it is an ironic reference to a comment another poster made about Dzeko some time ago (As explained in my 2nd post on this thread) I appreciate if you didn't see the original thread this refers to, you don't get that context.

However, if you're so easily offended that you feel the strong need to post for the first time since November 2012 to complain about another post, despite all the wonderful things at city you could have commented on in the 2 years since your last post, perhaps you have your priorities somewhat wrong for being a member of a manchester city forum.

Of course if the lads feel I've overstepped the mark, they are more than welcome to change the thread title


Quite frankly I find your remarks personally offensive.

It is totally irrelevant whether or not you have a disability or whether or not you think the remarks are offensive.

You are a coward making them hidden behind a keyboard. If not removed within 24 hours I will report the thread to the police, you were asked nicely.

It is because of the offensive nature of the thread title thatI posted.

Call my bluff and you will regret it, that is my promise to you - you will get a knock on you door from the police.

Do the decent thing and remove hate is hate even if you are just repeating what others said, same for racism you repeat it YOU offend.


Look, I'm sure your heart is in the right place, but a couple of points before you spontaneously combust with outrage:

#1 - You began all this claiming to uphold the honour of disabled people, all of them apparently, yet when I pointed out I'm disabled and that you don't speak for me, you then claim my opinion as a disabled person doesn't count. At least be consistent and get your story straight.

#2 - You'd have a hard enough job finding a copper in a British nick these days, but assuming you do, when he (or she, of course, I don't want sexism added to my rap sheet) finally stops laughing at you, my address is Villa 43, Al Rayyan Road, Doha, Qatar.

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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby citoeast » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:22 pm

What is hate crime?

A crime is recorded by police and the Crown Prosecution Service as a hate crime if the victim or anyone else believes it was motivated by hostility based on a personal characteristic of the victim. The police and CPS record data on hate crimes for five personal characteristics, that is, where the hostility relates to: (1) disability; (2) transgender identity; (3) race; (4) religion; and (5) sexual orientation.


Even if the person using the hate language is themselves disabled that does not make it lawful.

As for the personal abuse towards me save your time and energy I have no fear of you, and no regard or respect for what you say.
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:28 pm

citoeast wrote:What is hate crime?

A crime is recorded by police and the Crown Prosecution Service as a hate crime if the victim or anyone else believes it was motivated by hostility based on a personal characteristic of the victim. The police and CPS record data on hate crimes for five personal characteristics, that is, where the hostility relates to: (1) disability; (2) transgender identity; (3) race; (4) religion; and (5) sexual orientation.


Even if the person using the hate language is themselves disabled that does not make it lawful.

As for the personal abuse towards me save your time and energy I have no fear of you, and no regard or respect for what you say.


Obviously you do have regard for what I say, otherwise you wouldn't be chasing me round the fucking internet about it.

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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:34 pm

citoeast wrote:What is hate crime?

A crime is recorded by police and the Crown Prosecution Service as a hate crime if the victim or anyone else believes it was motivated by hostility based on a personal characteristic of the victim.


So are you saying Dzeko is a spastic & therefore is being subject to hate crime ?
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby twosips » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:38 pm

Or that maybe Dzeko believes he is a spastic? We're gonna have to ask Big Ed aren't we?
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:41 pm

twosips wrote:Or that maybe Dzeko believes he is a spastic? We're gonna have to ask Big Ed aren't we?


He played very well in any case.

Strange intervention seeing as the whole thread is about praising Dzeko, as the o,p. clearly states.
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:51 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
citoeast wrote:What is hate crime?

A crime is recorded by police and the Crown Prosecution Service as a hate crime if the victim or anyone else believes it was motivated by hostility based on a personal characteristic of the victim.


So are you saying Dzeko is a spastic & therefore is being subject to hate crime ?


Seeing as my new friend has quoted 'hostility based on personal characteristics', let's just have a quick look at the offence.

As Dzeko is neither physically nor mentally disabled, he therefore has no personal characteristics which are related to spasticity. Therefore even if this chap could argue it was motivated by hostility, which the original Bosnian spastic thread was, and this one clearly isn't given the lavish praise, that perceived hostility clearly isn't based on a personal characteristic and thus isn't a hate crime if the above definition is correct.
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:53 pm

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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby freshie » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:59 pm

citoeast wrote:What is hate crime?

A crime is recorded by police and the Crown Prosecution Service as a hate crime if the victim or anyone else believes it was motivated by hostility based on a personal characteristic of the victim. The police and CPS record data on hate crimes for five personal characteristics, that is, where the hostility relates to: (1) disability; (2) transgender identity; (3) race; (4) religion; and (5) sexual orientation.


Even if the person using the hate language is themselves disabled that does not make it lawful.

As for the personal abuse towards me save your time and energy I have no fear of you, and no regard or respect for what you say.


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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby charvet_wonderland » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:01 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
citoeast wrote:What is hate crime?

A crime is recorded by police and the Crown Prosecution Service as a hate crime if the victim or anyone else believes it was motivated by hostility based on a personal characteristic of the victim.


So are you saying Dzeko is a spastic & therefore is being subject to hate crime ?


Seeing as my new friend has quoted 'hostility based on personal characteristics', let's just have a quick look at the offence.

As Dzeko is neither physically nor mentally disabled, he therefore has no personal characteristics which are related to spasticity. Therefore even if this chap could argue it was motivated by hostility, which the original Bosnian spastic thread was, and this one clearly isn't given the lavish praise, that perceived hostility clearly isn't based on a personal characteristic and thus isn't a hate crime if the above definition is correct.


Plus, according to that definition a crime would need to be a crime before it could be recorded as a hate crime. In the words of our manic depressive national treasure
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Re: There's no Bosnian spastic thread?

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:07 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
citoeast wrote:It is totally irrelevant whether or not you have a disability or whether or not you think the remarks are offensive.

You are a coward making them hidden behind a keyboard. If not removed within 24 hours I will report the thread to the police, you were asked nicely.

It is because of the offensive nature of the thread title thatI posted.

Call my bluff and you will regret it, that is my promise to you - you will get a knock on you door from the police.

Do the decent thing and remove hate is hate even if you are just repeating what others said, same for racism you repeat it YOU offend.


I can tell you now that the police won't 'knock on his door'.

I can also guess that even if they were to, one quick look at his mobility aids would mean that they wouldn't censure him in any way.

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