Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby gillie » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:01 pm

branny wrote:
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john@staustell wrote:Does anyone remember the 3-3 draw at Bolton under Hughes? All 3 Bolton goals were at some point the result of officials' action or inaction. Bellamy was hacked down in the penalty area and booked for diving, a second offence for which he was sent off. It was also this match when the ref said to one of our coaches how much he hated Bellamy before the incident. But of course nothing comes of it.

My belief is that ref was Clattenberg.

It was.


There's definitely something underlying with Clattenberg and it's been going on for a while. I don't know if he's pissed off with us because of the Bellamy incident but another game that doesn't sit well with me was Chelsea away 2011/12. We were top of the league, unbeaten in 15 and 1-0 up after a 2nd minute Mario goal. Silva was brought down after wrongfooting Bosingwa and Clattenberg had a clear unobstructed view from a few yards away. The way we were playing it could have very perceivably been game over had he given it. He didn't. He the sent Clichy off early in the second half and gave Chelsea a penalty for handball by Lescott with 8 minutes left. I don't think he is incompetent but he definitely has something against us.

If he has an agenda against us then he is by being unprofessional in that respect being corrupt no money needs to change hands to cheat.Cheating is in itself a corruption of fair play.
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby Mase » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:05 pm

REFEREE chiefs are to investigate why Mark Clattenburg has joined an agency which represents players.

Catalyst4Soccer last week announced on Twitter that they had signed up under-fire official Clattenburg.

But the Professional Game Match Officials Limited are concerned about a potential conflict of interest.

The North-East agency look after a string of Football League players, which Clattenburg could ref in a cup competition.

And Catalyst4Soccer also boast a testimony from Manchester City keeper Willy Caballero, who was on the bench in the game the Durham whistler officiated in on Sunday.

It is highly unusual for serving match officials to have their own advisor - only Howard Webb has definitely had one in the past.

And although having an agent is not forbidden, refs must fully disclose the details of their agreement to PGMOL boss Mike Riley.

Clattenburg is being represented by pal Neil Saxton, who is a director of Catalyst4Soccer and the son of former Blackburn boss Bobby.

SunSport spoke to Saxton, who says his firm is working with the official purely to help him manage his off-field activities, including speeches and charity appearances.
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby Original Dub » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:12 pm

Not at all surprised.

Controversy has followed this bastard for years. I wish they would set up a sting for the cunt. That would open the whole thing.
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:24 pm

branny wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
john@staustell wrote:Does anyone remember the 3-3 draw at Bolton under Hughes? All 3 Bolton goals were at some point the result of officials' action or inaction. Bellamy was hacked down in the penalty area and booked for diving, a second offence for which he was sent off. It was also this match when the ref said to one of our coaches how much he hated Bellamy before the incident. But of course nothing comes of it.

My belief is that ref was Clattenberg.

It was.


There's definitely something underlying with Clattenberg and it's been going on for a while. I don't know if he's pissed off with us because of the Bellamy incident but another game that doesn't sit well with me was Chelsea away 2011/12. We were top of the league, unbeaten in 15 and 1-0 up after a 2nd minute Mario goal. Silva was brought down after wrongfooting Bosingwa and Clattenberg had a clear unobstructed view from a few yards away. The way we were playing it could have very perceivably been game over had he given it. He didn't. He the sent Clichy off early in the second half and gave Chelsea a penalty for handball by Lescott with 8 minutes left. I don't think he is incompetent but he definitely has something against us.

He's the go-to ref for the Premier League when it needs re-scripting. I'll never forget what he did in that game.
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby RodneyRodney » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:05 am

If the Govan drunk was allowed to cherry pick his refs, then why can't we ?
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby Tokyo Blue » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:39 am

RodneyRodney wrote:If the Govan drunk was allowed to cherry pick his refs, then why can't we ?

Because no-one should be pulling that kind of shite. We're not united and we don't need to cheat.
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby RodneyRodney » Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:31 am

Tokyo Blue wrote:
RodneyRodney wrote:If the Govan drunk was allowed to cherry pick his refs, then why can't we ?

Because no-one should be pulling that kind of shite. We're not united and we don't need to cheat.


No one SHOULD be , but the SKY4 ARE ; if it's OK for them to cheat then it's OK for us
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby Tokyo Blue » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:30 pm

RodneyRodney wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:
RodneyRodney wrote:If the Govan drunk was allowed to cherry pick his refs, then why can't we ?

Because no-one should be pulling that kind of shite. We're not united and we don't need to cheat.


No one SHOULD be , but the SKY4 ARE ; if it's OK for them to cheat then it's OK for us

But you are missing my point, Rodney. Is it not okay for them to do it. They are doing it and getting away with it, but that doesn't make it right. I would rather stop them than lower myself and my club to what is, as you rightly point out, effectively cheating.

I can't fucking stand cheats.
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby Mase » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:43 pm

Just watching Everton v Liverpool from the 2000/2001 season on Football Gold on Sky.

I'm guessing Clattenburg went to the Jeff Winter school of refereeing where it's all me me me.
It's all about Jeff in this match. He's given two penalties - neither of them were a penalty. He's booked 12 players. 12! And sent off one Liverpool player.

The sooner we rid the league of these referees that want to be the centre of attention the better!
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby Original Dub » Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:55 pm

Tokyo Blue wrote:
RodneyRodney wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:
RodneyRodney wrote:If the Govan drunk was allowed to cherry pick his refs, then why can't we ?

Because no-one should be pulling that kind of shite. We're not united and we don't need to cheat.


No one SHOULD be , but the SKY4 ARE ; if it's OK for them to cheat then it's OK for us

But you are missing my point, Rodney. Is it not okay for them to do it. They are doing it and getting away with it, but that doesn't make it right. I would rather stop them than lower myself and my club to what is, as you rightly point out, effectively cheating.

I can't fucking stand cheats.


I agree completely with this. Fucking cheats need to turfed out, not added to.
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby Moonchesteri » Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:10 pm

My open letter to clattenburg goes like this:

FUCK OFF.
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:30 pm

Moonchesteri wrote:My open letter to clattenburg goes like this:

FUCK OFF.


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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby gmercer1 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:51 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:My open letter to clattenburg goes like this:

FUCK OFF.


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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby JamieMCFC » Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:09 pm

Premier League referee Mark Clattenburg to be probed over 'conflict of interest' claims

Clattenburg has been under pressure already this week after he awarded Tottenham a controversial penalty in their Premier League clash with Manchester City.

And the FA have confirmed that City boss Manuel Pellegrini will not face further action despite criticising the officials for the decision after the game.

But the 40-year-old referee will reportedly find himself under further scrutiny over his off-field dealings.

The Sun are claiming that the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) are concerned about a potential conflict of interest.

Catalyst4Soccer last week announced that they had signed Clattenburg up.

But the agency also represent a number of Football League players as well as Man City goalkeeper Willy Caballero, who was on the bench when Clattenburg took charge of Man City vs Tottenham.

The keeper is even quoted on the agencies website as one of their landmark clients.

And now PGMOL are said to be investigating whether the overlap could represent a conflict of interest if Clattenburg has to referee one of Catalyst4Soccer's other clients.

Referees are not forbidden from having agents although only Howard Webb is known to have had one in the past.

Clattenburg is being represented by Neil Saxton, one of the companies directors, who told The Sun that he is dealing purely with the referee's off-field activities such as after-dinner speaking and charity appearances.

The Gosforth-based official has been a Premier League referee since 2004 and officiated at Euro 2012 as well as the Olympic Games.

He is said to earn around £90,000 a year but match fees take his earnings up to around £130,000.

Clattenburg also makes money from private appearances which is also permitted, but they must be signed off by referees chief Mike Riley.

It is not the first time Clattenburg has made the headlines after claims that he was dropped by the Premier League for breaking protocol by speaking to then-Crystal Palace manager Neil Warnock on the phone after a game and also leaving a fixture alone to travel to an Ed Sheeran concert.

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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:19 pm

Wasn't 'Turd penned in to do the Chelsea game this weekend? Has he got a game now?

What is wierd is that the agency piece was made public on Friday, so why was he still allowed to officiate our game, especially as the same agency has a City player on its books?
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby nottsblue » Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:27 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Wasn't 'Turd penned in to do the Chelsea game this weekend? Has he got a game now?

What is wierd is that the agency piece was made public on Friday, so why was he still allowed to officiate our game, especially as the same agency has a City player on its books?

The cynic in me would suggest the referees association were happy for him to go ahead and officiate, I use the term in its loosest sense, our match with instructions that Spurs be given the benefit of any doubt. Of course I am too cynical and this scenario would never be played out
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:45 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Wasn't 'Turd penned in to do the Chelsea game this weekend? Has he got a game now?

What is wierd is that the agency piece was made public on Friday, so why was he still allowed to officiate our game, especially as the same agency has a City player on its books?

The cynic in me would suggest the referees association were happy for him to go ahead and officiate, I use the term in its loosest sense, our match with instructions that Spurs be given the benefit of any doubt. Of course I am too cynical and this scenario would never be played out

Cynical? I think that's just an age thing mate, seen it too many times ;-)
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby dazby » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:03 am

Tokyo Blue wrote:I will be interested to read what Dazby has got to say on this subject. What say you, Dazzer lad?

Perhaps now you understand why I wanted you to ask certain questions to mister debttenburg.


I say it was a poor decision. Shockingly bad.
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby Tokyo Blue » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:49 am

dazby wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:I will be interested to read what Dazby has got to say on this subject. What say you, Dazzer lad?

Perhaps now you understand why I wanted you to ask certain questions to mister debttenburg.


I say it was a poor decision. Shockingly bad.


Yes, it was.

However it was merely the latest in a series of shockingly bad decisions that City have suffered from this particular individual. Does that not raise any doubts at all for you, Dazby?
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Re: Open Letter To Mark Clattenburg

Postby dazby » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:45 am

The game prior he was fine.

If you were wanting me to ask him about being corrupt, at a time when the organisation I work for had paid for him to come out and successfully inspire and educate our crop of referees (who also make bad decisions on a regular basis) then you are mistaken.

Before I interviewed him I also asked dipper, rag, spud and arse friends what to ask him and they too were of the opinion that he didn't favour them. They would bring up specific instances of matches where they were fucked over by him.

Is he corrupt? Maybe. Maybe not. Was that weekend the time to quiz him over it? Hell no. Would I have kept my job if I had of? Hell no. Would it have been worth it? No.

FWIW. If he was well and truly corrupt he would have let the handball (by was it Kane?) go a bit later. He pulled that one up too.

Incompetent, yes. Corrupt, no.
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