Most successful season ever - depends on perspective

[carl_feedthegoat]

Let's not turn into rags and act like they did with Van Louie and Moysey, two managers that won fuckall, while Pellers won three trophies and can still win two more (unlikely).

We are missing the point and I saw this the past days here on the forum. We are poiting fingers only at him, instead we should be looking at the players, the board and even Guardiola. The whole Pep saga imploded in our dressing room and fucked our season. The only moment they acted like proper players was the game with Scouse because it was a trophy on the table.

They lost all the concentration to focus on this season.

We can go on and on and blaiming Pellegrini who is indeed the number one responsible for this, BUT not the only one.

or


All of this is bollox and the reason we went to shit is KDB getting injured.

Can we stop with all this bullshit about Pep taking over as the reason why we are shit...............Bayern fuckign Munich are leading their fuckign division (I've said this a million times) and as far as I know , they all know their fuckign manager is also fuckign off at the end of the season...it hasn't stopped their players playing like winners !!

We are shit because Pellegrini has made us shit ! if he cannot get his players to play then hes the fuckign problem....end of story ffs !!

[PeterParker]

Let's not turn into rags and act like they did with Van Louie and Moysey, two managers that won fuckall, while Pellers won three trophies and can still win two more (unlikely).

We are missing the point and I saw this the past days here on the forum. We are poiting fingers only at him, instead we should be looking at the players, the board and even Guardiola. The whole Pep saga imploded in our dressing room and fucked our season. The only moment they acted like proper players was the game with Scouse because it was a trophy on the table.

They lost all the concentration to focus on this season.

We can go on and on and blaiming Pellegrini who is indeed the number one responsible for this, BUT not the only one.

or


All of this is bollox and the reason we went to shit is KDB getting injured.

Can we stop with all this bullshit about Pep taking over as the reason why we are shit...............Bayern fuckign Munich are leading their fuckign division (I've said this a million times) and as far as I know , they all know their fuckign manager is also fuckign off at the end of the season...it hasn't stopped their players playing like winners !!

We are shit because Pellegrini has made us shit ! if he cannot get his players to play then hes the fuckign problem....end of story ffs !!

Yes, Bayern is leading the league, however, they lost a big number of points. 15 to be exact. Now they have only 5 points ahead and the title race is wide open, Bayern having the more difficult fixtures

You are putting the whole problem in a wrong way. You look at the way that affected Bayern, instead of looking how it had affected us. Even if we won a few games with them, Bayern is a superior club that responded with a double when they heard Pep is coming in 2013.

To simplify, our players stop caring about the league when they heard they will have a new manager. Call them cowards, bottlers, but look at the attitude of the likes of Bony, etc.


And regarding KDB, yes, however, his goal and assist stats looked really really good for us.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Let's not turn into rags and act like they did with Van Louie and Moysey, two managers that won fuckall, while Pellers won three trophies and can still win two more (unlikely).

We are missing the point and I saw this the past days here on the forum. We are poiting fingers only at him, instead we should be looking at the players, the board and even Guardiola. The whole Pep saga imploded in our dressing room and fucked our season. The only moment they acted like proper players was the game with Scouse because it was a trophy on the table.

They lost all the concentration to focus on this season.

We can go on and on and blaiming Pellegrini who is indeed the number one responsible for this, BUT not the only one.

or


All of this is bollox and the reason we went to shit is KDB getting injured.

Can we stop with all this bullshit about Pep taking over as the reason why we are shit...............Bayern fuckign Munich are leading their fuckign division (I've said this a million times) and as far as I know , they all know their fuckign manager is also fuckign off at the end of the season...it hasn't stopped their players playing like winners !!

We are shit because Pellegrini has made us shit ! if he cannot get his players to play then hes the fuckign problem....end of story ffs !!

Yes, Bayern is leading the league, however, they lost a big number of points. 15 to be exact. Now they have only 5 points ahead and the title race is wide open, Bayern having the more difficult fixtures

You are putting the whole problem in a wrong way. You look at the way that affected Bayern, instead of looking how it had affected us. Even if we won a few games with them, Bayern is a superior club that responded with a double when they heard Pep is coming in 2013.

To simply, our players stop caring about the league when they heard they will have a new manager. Call them cowards, bottlers, but look at the attitude of the likes of Bony, etc.


And regarding KDB, yes, however, his goal and assist stats looked really really good for us.

If Bayern lose it completely then fire away, but the fact of the matter is, they are 5 points ahead of second place and no matter what league you are playing in (Apart from mickey mouse leagues like France ) at this stage of the season , that is a big margin.

Don't get me wrong , the majority of the players are cunts for the way they have performed but they have performed like this most of the season and that is Pellegrini's fault , he fuckign played players week in and week out even when they were fuckign diabolical...what sort of message does that send them ??????

Ill be over the fuckign blue moon if we scrape in 3rd place but the way we are playing we won't even make 4th spot and that's a fact.

[Sister of fu]

This team baffles me, it really does. On paper we should be challenging for the league year on year, we aint. We have been no where near good enough in the league for the past two season which I find shocking. Not a chance that this team is going to win 9 games on the bounce, never ever going to happen. Teams don't fear playing us and I feel some of our players are not up to competing with teams and putting in the hard graft.

We have turned into flat track bullies and we aint even that good at that. We struggled vs Norwich at home and then couldn't even have a shot on target at their place. They have the 2nd worst goals conceded record in the Premier. What a joke. Do we have a week mentality or can the players really not be arsed?? Are teams getting better or are we going backwards?There is so many questions that I don't know the answer too. But in reply to the OP, no its not, not even close. We are not good enough and should be ashamed of being so far behind Leicester City......fucking Leicester City (im still fuming from Saturday)

Sorry, but I am not having that. Their goalie made saves, one good one in particular from Aguero that was going across him. That was in the first half.

Didn't read your post past that, I'm afraid. It is bad enough having the media doing it, but when City fans start, it really is a bit silly.

My bad, one shot that was down the keepers throat that I would expect my gran to save. Am I wrong to expect more from this team?

I must have imagined the eight defeats and countless shit house performances. That performance was not acceptable on Saturday.

[ColinBell8]

This team baffles me, it really does. On paper we should be challenging for the league year on year, we aint. We have been no where near good enough in the league for the past two season which I find shocking. Not a chance that this team is going to win 9 games on the bounce, never ever going to happen. Teams don't fear playing us and I feel some of our players are not up to competing with teams and putting in the hard graft.

We have turned into flat track bullies and we aint even that good at that. We struggled vs Norwich at home and then couldn't even have a shot on target at their place. They have the 2nd worst goals conceded record in the Premier. What a joke. Do we have a week mentality or can the players really not be arsed?? Are teams getting better or are we going backwards?There is so many questions that I don't know the answer too. But in reply to the OP, no its not, not even close. We are not good enough and should be ashamed of being so far behind Leicester City......fucking Leicester City (im still fuming from Saturday)

Sorry, but I am not having that. Their goalie made saves, one good one in particular from Aguero that was going across him. That was in the first half.

Didn't read your post past that, I'm afraid. It is bad enough having the media doing it, but when City fans start, it really is a bit silly.

My bad, one shot that was down the keepers throat that I would expect my gran to save. Am I wrong to expect more from this team?

I must have imagined the eight defeats and countless shit house performances. That performance was not acceptable on Saturday.

No you're not wrong at all, perfectly valid points as far as I can see. Too predictable, too slow & far too easy to play against.

[sheblue]

Yes that's correct it's all Kevin's fault.

[Sister of fu]

Just let it sink in for a second but Leicester City are 12 points clear of us. I feel sick and I hope the players do too.....

[Ray78]

Leicester are reaping the benefits of having all their key players staying fit for long periods of the season and having a settled side, as well as exiting both domestic cup competitions early and having no extra European games to think about Although you expect City to make a decent fist of winning the league and it has been disappointing on that of it there is a reasoning behind why we haven't. The league isn't top priority, having Aguero, Silva (who hasn't been right since returning from injury) and Kompany missing large chunks of the season , having a disinterested Toure leading on the pitch, having to rely on a disappointing Bony and a talented but still raw kid in Iheanacho as well as not solving the defensive and midfield issues and overall squad mentality . On top of that having to bed in new signings who we will not get full benefit from next season. Yet we have won one trophy and to progress further than we have ever got in the Champions League.

[edge275]

Just let it sink in for a second but Leicester City are 12 points clear of us. I feel sick and I hope the players do too.....

It's disgusting considering the talent in our squad compared to the other squads in the league. This isn't self entitlement it's just obvious. Pellegrini should've been sacked ages ago for incompetence.

[nottsblue]

The last 24 games have yielded 36 points.

Nothing more to add your honour

[Moonchesteri]

Just let it sink in for a second but Leicester City are 12 points clear of us. I feel sick and I hope the players do too.....

Pretty much exactly how I feel.

[Wooders]

So it's pep and the boards fault that we've been shit most of this season and largely most of last season?

[Sister of fu]

Just let it sink in for a second but Leicester City are 12 points clear of us. I feel sick and I hope the players do too.....

Pretty much exactly how I feel.

I probably go against the masses but I don't buy into this "ooooh Leicester for the league" fairy-tale bollocks. There is only one City that I want to win the league title and definitely isn't fucking Leicester.

[Mase]

Just let it sink in for a second but Leicester City are 12 points clear of us. I feel sick and I hope the players do too.....

Pretty much exactly how I feel.

I probably go against the masses but I don't buy into this "ooooh Leicester for the league" fairy-tale bollocks. There is only one City that I want to win the league title and definitely isn't fucking Leicester.

I'm the same. I'd rather they won than Spurs or Arsenal but I can't understand why anyone who doesn't support Leicester would want them to win passionately. Focus on your own teams ffs!

[Sister of fu]

Just let it sink in for a second but Leicester City are 12 points clear of us. I feel sick and I hope the players do too.....

Pretty much exactly how I feel.

I probably go against the masses but I don't buy into this "ooooh Leicester for the league" fairy-tale bollocks. There is only one City that I want to win the league title and definitely isn't fucking Leicester.

I'm the same. I'd rather they won than Spurs or Arsenal but I can't understand why anyone who doesn't support Leicester would want them to win passionately. Focus on your own teams ffs!

Loads of rags cheering them on. How embarrassing. I am so angry that we are so far behind a team that were bottom for most of last season. If I was a fan of the "mighty" Man U I certainly would not make is public knowledge that I was cheering Leicester on, I would want my team that had spent 300 million to be a tad bit closer to them instead of languishing 16 points behind.

[bigblue]

Yes that's correct it's all Kevin's fault.

In my view, it would be silly to blame Kev. He's an incredible player.

But there does have to be some blame on Pellers for changing up a system/lineup that was steamrolling teams. Sterling and Navas were stretching the field, giving tons of space for Silva and Yaya in the middle. And Yaya had to do less running in attack since we already had our 3 fastest players up top (Sterling, Navas, Aguero).

We went from looking like we were going to walk the league to making every week a massive struggle. And only 2 things changed. 1st, KDB playing over Navas or Sterling. 2nd, injury prone Kompany being a wanker and playing for Belgium when he already had a niggle.

Kev should definitely play, but he was inserted too soon into the team after signing. He (understandably) looked lost for the first few games when he came on. And as a result, our previously fluid team had to carry a passenger until he got up to speed.

[Original Dub]

I am amazed you thought De Bruyne looked lost when he started playing for us mate?!

He hit the ground running big time!

[bigblue]

I am amazed you thought De Bruyne looked lost when he started playing for us mate?!

He hit the ground running big time!

He scored a few free kicks and had some great plays, but for the other 90% of the game he was poor in possession or out of position. He didn't know what runs to expect from his teammates or where to go when we didn't have the ball (all of which is very understandable). He did have an immediate impact on the scoresheet, but there was a noticeable drop in our overall team play, since we were bringing a player up to speed mid-game.

Do you remember how well started the season before we changed the system/lineup?

[dave watson's perm]

Having to all intents and purposes appointed an "interim manager" until a "Mr Right" is ready to sign on the dotted line must not be allowed to happen again.

[aaron bond]

I am amazed you thought De Bruyne looked lost when he started playing for us mate?!

He hit the ground running big time!

He scored a few free kicks and had some great plays, but for the other 90% of the game he was poor in possession or out of position. He didn't know what runs to expect from his teammates or where to go when we didn't have the ball (all of which is very understandable). He did have an immediate impact on the scoresheet, but there was a noticeable drop in our overall team play, since we were bringing a player up to speed mid-game.

Do you remember how well started the season before we changed the system/lineup?

KDB would have been more useful playing in the Silva/Yaya role you mentioned in the previous post, but instead, Pellegrini played him as one of our 'wingers'.

Navas and Sterling might not be as technically good as KDB but our overall team shape was far better when they were our wingers in the opening run of games. We have played our best football this season with Navas and Sterling on the wings, or when Sterling/Fernandinho played on the wings against Kiev and Liverpool.

I don't doubt KDB's ability. But from a team perspective, he would be better in the middle and giving a floating role, like Silva and Yaya get. The issue is Pellegrini wants to play all of them if they are all fit when that isn't necessarily the best team shape.