Pep Out. Again! But Now Back In.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Would it be typical City if we fired the most successful manager of the last decade? Not rhetorical.

Typical!

He's struggling like fuck and doing weird shit.

And the transfer business has been fucking rubbish and is coming home to roost

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Can we please have Bobby back.

Yes please.

In a heartbeat.

[Moonchesteri]

Four wins in the last 15 games fucking pathetic.
That is relegation form.

And considering we play Arse and bindippers in the next four it will be 6 out of 19 at the best.

[Beefymcfc]

Would it be typical City if we fired the most successful manager of the last decade? Not rhetorical.

Typical!

He's struggling like fuck and doing weird shit.

He is, isn't he mate. I thought the platers today, in a traditional set-up, would do quite well. Then we seen the 3 at he back, Zab's and Fern sat in the middle, it was as if he was playing a Sunday League team and they wouldn't work it out.

They all know that we don't trust our system, at best, or we don't have a decent enough defence to stop it, yet Pep persists. Fucking really!

However, we don't get a choice what the manager does but, for me, we have the probably the best squad out there.

[PeterParker]

Would it be typical City if we fired the most successful manager of the last decade? Not rhetorical.

Typical!

He's struggling like fuck and doing weird shit.

However, we don't get a choice what the manager does but, for me, we have the probably the best squad out there.

I disagree with this, Beef.

We had the best squad, now we have a tired and old defence + 4 constant top players: Dave, Fern, Tin tin and Sergio. In this order.

Now we have a bunch of overpriced lads that think they did enough in the game and lack the hunger they need to step up. We are used, very used. Like a vinyl that has only two-three working tracks from time to time.

[Mase]

We have a shite squad with a couple of decent players.

Two strikers compared with Balo, Tevez, Dzeko, and Serg.

Absolutely shocking defence that we'll struggle to move anywhere.

Goalkeeper that's not a goalkeeper.

[Spurge]

Is it just Bravo that the team don't trust? Yet again he tries to play it out when we're under serious pressure, and tries to force the play when we should be taking a minute and regrouping.

It's more Fernando. He is simply not good enough! Wasn't he responsible for the goal away at PSG last year?

Picking out Fernando is in my view an easy scapegoat and suggests you've either gone for the 'soft' option or haven't really comprehended what has happened tonight. We were totally fucking inept as a team tactically we were inept, clueless. It was embarrassing to watch. Gündogan was far worse than Fernando but much more than that the manager has got it horribly wrong we were a fucking shambles from 1 to 11 they had no idea what each other was meant to be doing. At half time I'm thinking pep will show us why he's regarded as the best manager in the world. Then he takes off his only striker after an hour and replaces him with no recognized striker. I did feel we needed yaya's physical presence and height but not for Kelechi the player with the best goals per mins in the league. Wft pep lost the plot tonight and it was a fucking joke end of. If it was pellers we'd have called for his head but peps a fucking genius still. Well he probably is but wasn't tonight and must learn from this and very quickly I don't want to see us play like this again. Shambolic in the extreme

[zuricity]

Would it be typical City if we fired the most successful manager of the last decade? Not rhetorical.

Typical!

He's struggling like fuck and doing weird shit.

And the transfer business has been fucking rubbish and is coming home to roost

And to think you were one of those vehemently concerned that Roberto Mancini should go.

These wankers haven't got a clue

Vardy is useless but manages a hat trick against us .

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Can we please have Bobby back.

Yes please.

In a heartbeat.

We could do with some new fans, too.

[Nigels Tackle]

Can we please have Bobby back.

Yes please.

In a heartbeat.

We could do with some new fans, too.

remember where we've come from?!
fuck off
we've gone backwards under the spafia
every fucking right to vent our frustrations
you keep living in your superior world
dickhead

[Mase]

Can we please have Bobby back.

Yes please.

In a heartbeat.

We could do with some new fans, too.

remember where we've come from?!
fuck off
we've gone backwards under the spafia
every fucking right to vent our frustrations
you keep living in your superior world
dickhead

You're not allowed an opinion unless it's a blinded foolish 'positive' one.

[Blue Since 76]

There's been plenty of decent foreign managers who really struggled in English football. Pep's record is better than all of them, but at the moment he looks as out of his depth as a Ramos or Villas Boas.

There would be some serious questions if he didn't have all the silverware to date, but this is worrying, as it looks like it's taken the premier league about 3 months to work him out. Not really fancying the next couple of home games

[PeterParker]

Can we please have Bobby back.

Yes please.

In a heartbeat.

We could do with some new fans, too.

remember where we've come from?!
fuck off
we've gone backwards under the spafia
every fucking right to vent our frustrations
you keep living in your superior world
dickhead

You're not allowed an opinion unless it's a blinded foolish 'positive' one.

+1

[South Stand Balti]

I honestly believe we would have more points if Neil Warnock had taken over as manager and buyer at the end of last season. The footie would have been better to watch too. I'm finding it really difficult to watch the suicide stuff at the back.

[Hutch's Shoulder]

We started the season with some interesting tactical ideas, full backs tucking in, joining a pressing midfield etc, but all that went out with the full backs when we went three in defence.

[ENIAM NAM]

Is it just Bravo that the team don't trust? Yet again he tries to play it out when we're under serious pressure, and tries to force the play when we should be taking a minute and regrouping.

It's more Fernando. He is simply not good enough! Wasn't he responsible for the goal away at PSG last year?

Picking out Fernando is in my view an easy scapegoat and suggests you've either gone for the 'soft' option or haven't really comprehended what has happened tonight. We were totally fucking inept as a team tactically we were inept, clueless. It was embarrassing to watch. Gündogan was far worse than Fernando but much more than that the manager has got it horribly wrong we were a fucking shambles from 1 to 11 they had no idea what each other was meant to be doing. At half time I'm thinking pep will show us why he's regarded as the best manager in the world. Then he takes off his only striker after an hour and replaces him with no recognized striker. I did feel we needed yaya's physical presence and height but not for Kelechi the player with the best goals per mins in the league. Wft pep lost the plot tonight and it was a fucking joke end of. If it was pellers we'd have called for his head but peps a fucking genius still. Well he probably is but wasn't tonight and must learn from this and very quickly I don't want to see us play like this again. Shambolic in the extreme

My comment was in relation to one specific moment in the game that was being referred to. Otherwise, crack on.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I honestly believe we would have more points if Neil Warnock had taken over as manager and buyer at the end of last season. The footie would have been better to watch too. I'm finding it really difficult to watch the suicide stuff at the back.

That's the terrible bit. I enjoy attacking football as much as the next man but I enjoy well organized good defenders as much. I can deal with odd 0-0 or close and dull 0-1 win in games like this. It doesn't have to be joga bonito every weekend as long as we are grinding results. Sure I would like to watch Pep era Barxelona week in week out but you have got to learn how to walk before you run.

Suicide stuff. Couldn't have described it better.

[Spurge]

Is it just Bravo that the team don't trust? Yet again he tries to play it out when we're under serious pressure, and tries to force the play when we should be taking a minute and regrouping.

It's more Fernando. He is simply not good enough! Wasn't he responsible for the goal away at PSG last year?

Picking out Fernando is in my view an easy scapegoat and suggests you've either gone for the 'soft' option or haven't really comprehended what has happened tonight. We were totally fucking inept as a team tactically we were inept, clueless. It was embarrassing to watch. Gündogan was far worse than Fernando but much more than that the manager has got it horribly wrong we were a fucking shambles from 1 to 11 they had no idea what each other was meant to be doing. At half time I'm thinking pep will show us why he's regarded as the best manager in the world. Then he takes off his only striker after an hour and replaces him with no recognized striker. I did feel we needed yaya's physical presence and height but not for Kelechi the player with the best goals per mins in the league. Wft pep lost the plot tonight and it was a fucking joke end of. If it was pellers we'd have called for his head but peps a fucking genius still. Well he probably is but wasn't tonight and must learn from this and very quickly I don't want to see us play like this again. Shambolic in the extreme

My comment was in relation to one specific moment in the game that was being referred to. Otherwise, crack on.

That wasn't clear reads more as a generalisation than a reference to a specific incident within the game. Thanks for allowing me to 'crack on' ill do that by asking you your overall opinion as to what went wrong tonight.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I'm not advocating club to get rid of Pep mainly because of his reputation and pedigree but I have to say I'd be happy to see Mancini back monday morning.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

I am a massive Pep fan and it is clear he is struggling to work out how best to send his teams out to play whilst bearing in mind it has to be based on having control and possession.He wants us to play good football, look after the ball, create chances and score goals and when we don't have the ball to be organised well enough so that when teams break against us we are not easy to score against.

We are playing some good football but sadly that's where it ends. The goals are not really coming but if that was the only problem we would be fine and i expect we can sort that. The chances are there and we keep missing them and that was the case against Chelsea and even worse it was our best two players missing them that day. To a degree teams know how to defend against us but I really don't see that as the key issue.

Defending is the real issue and the performance of individuals within the team who have any sort of defensive roles. Ideally what you want in defence are individuals who can hold there own in one on one situations. Whether it's to win tackles or headers or read situations to avoid dangerous situations or whatever. And obviously you also want those individuals to work well as a team so that we don't let goals in.Simples

Sadly our individuals are not good at all in the one to one scenario. We have 4 full backs and I would say only Sagna comes close to being good enough. The two on the left are simply poor defenders and whilst I might be being a bit harsh on Zaba I feel his legs are gone and anyone with any pace at all can almost ignore him. We have a keeper who isn't a bad keeper ( his record shows that) but he needs to make big saves from time to time and he simply isn't doing that when we need him to. For all his faults, and we know Joe had some, Joe did make great saves and plenty of them.

So onto midfield and the shield we need at times in front of the back 4. I quite like the 2 Ferns but without Dinho today we looked crazily wide open. The system didn't help but I felt throwing in Zaba in there was beyond crazy.If he was supposed to be sitting more than attacking why didn't somebody tell him!

Pep I am certain is learning loads and part of it is how poor some of the defenders are. He won't come out and please the press by openly criticising players as that's not his style and I believe rightly so but he has to show he recognises this by a) picking a more consistent defensive unit if he can b) getting rid of the real weak links in that area (surely surely Kolarov is one of them) and c) using a tactical approach that allows for the poor defenders he has to choose from. 4 at the back would seem to be that approach.

We will see from now if he changes and how he changes things. He will know that if we defend poorly against Arse and Dippers we will be slaughtered so lets hope improvements are on the way.

I started saying I was a massive Pep fan and I still am a massive Pep fan. He needs to learn fast, as do the players but along the way he needs massive support from everyone. We will be fine.