Postmatch comments

[Tokyo Blue]

We never got going. Navas, clichy, Fern and Delph are just not good enough. Chelsea knew that and they let them carry the ball and double marked others.

to say fern isn't good enough is just WOW. where have you been since he joined?

I think Fernandinho has been poor since returning h from his last suspension. Yes he has been tried at full back and that not worked but think his energy levels have dropped since start of season for recent games aswell.

Yeah, well, he's bound to be knackered after doing Toure's share of work as well as his own for the last two seasons.

[Hazy2]

We never got going. Navas, clichy, Fern and Delph are just not good enough. Chelsea knew that and they let them carry the ball and double marked others.

to say fern isn't good enough is just WOW. where have you been since he joined?

I think Fernandinho has been poor since returning h from his last suspension. Yes he has been tried at full back and that not worked but think his energy levels have dropped since start of season for recent games aswell.

Yeah, well, he's bound to be knackered after doing Toure's share of work as well as his own for the last two seasons.

so right. he has ran his knackers off.

[BrianF]

I still can't make my mind up on Pep. On the one hand he seems to improve individual players ie Stones and Sterling but on the other 'ruin' players as in Fern and Kev by playing them out of position and mismanaging them. The same can be said about his tactics, they definitely are baffling and he is one stubborn bastard.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I still can't make my mind up on Pep. On the one hand he seems to improve individual players ie Stones and Sterling but on the other 'ruin' players as in Fern and Kev by playing them out of position and mismanaging them. The same can be said about his tactics, they definitely are baffling and he is one stubborn bastard.

Pep sneered when he was told its more intense here in the prem than other leagues.................hopefully the fuckign penny has dropped and he now realizes that it is indeed a lot more intense than fuckign Germany, Spain and Italy.

No top team there hardly ever loses to a mid to bottom team - his arrogance has cost us this season and he can be forgiven to a certain degree.......next season he will get zero fucking patience off fans like me if he repeats the same mistakes.

[Justified logic]

Question:

Given that the best teams, the title winners, have a strong defence and therefore don't need to score so many to win, do you think that Pulis or Fat Sam, both managers who construct solid defences as the basis of their tactics, would have done better or worse this season than Guardiola with the resources available?

[Hazy2]

Pep has it right in both boxes we are not good enough. He is also not blameless. The chances we have missed have bit us on the arse. Last night summed up the season, better team high percentage of possession and we fail to create that much.
I see a very strong team and squad being built. At times we have seen the potential in games, like the Derby, Barca, we also need a fair shake from officials. Wembley winning the cup could be the start of something great. I also see Jesus transforming us into a very different side, his cameo shows where we are heading. Work in progress poss with a trip to Wembley.

[zuricity]

If you think Pep will have it easier next term , think again . The cnuts at the PL and the refs will only get worse.

Even if he brought Messi in , cnuts like Dean ,the Wythenshawe wizzard and Jimmy Clitheroe would book him for being too good.

[sheblue]

Question:

Given that the best teams, the title winners, have a strong defence and therefore don't need to score so many to win, do you think that Pulis or Fat Sam, both managers who construct solid defences as the basis of their tactics, would have done better or worse this season than Guardiola with the resources available?

Are you serious? Or is this a wind up.

[City64]

Question:

Given that the best teams, the title winners, have a strong defence and therefore don't need to score so many to win, do you think that Pulis or Fat Sam, both managers who construct solid defences as the basis of their tactics, would have done better or worse this season than Guardiola with the resources available?

Are you serious? Or is this a wind up.

Strange poster this guy JL for sure ! Some stuff very good and intelligent whilst other stuff off the fucking scale and totally bizarre ???

[freshie]

I still can't make my mind up on Pep. On the one hand he seems to improve individual players ie Stones and Sterling but on the other 'ruin' players as in Fern and Kev by playing them out of position and mismanaging them. The same can be said about his tactics, they definitely are baffling and he is one stubborn bastard.

Pep sneered when he was told its more intense here in the prem than other leagues.................hopefully the fuckign penny has dropped and he now realizes that it is indeed a lot more intense than fuckign Germany, Spain and Italy.

No top team there hardly ever loses to a mid to bottom team - his arrogance has cost us this season and he can be forgiven to a certain degree.......next season he will get zero fucking patience off fans like me if he repeats the same mistakes.

Fair points there Carl. I do actually believe he will get it right, but a lot of it hinges on the summer transfer window, which could be the most important window in our club's history. Get it right and we could go on to dominate European football. I'm a big fan of Pep, but have been frustrated by some of his team selections - not sure whether that is his arrogance or merely him demonstrating to the board how much our ageing squad needs rejuvenating. If he is to maintain his reputation as the best coach on world football then next season is massive for him. I have faith in him that he will sort it out and we will be the team to beat next season.

As for his comments about being proud of the players etc, I'd rather he said things like that in public and bollocked the players behind closed doors rather than adopt the attitude of the petulant portuguese one from salford who publicly berates his players at any given opportunity, constantly bemoans refereeing decisions and comes across as a complete twat. Also, if Luke Shaw is available I'd snap him up

[freshie]

Question:

Given that the best teams, the title winners, have a strong defence and therefore don't need to score so many to win, do you think that Pulis or Fat Sam, both managers who construct solid defences as the basis of their tactics, would have done better or worse this season than Guardiola with the resources available?

Are you serious? Or is this a wind up.

Strange poster this guy JL for sure ! Some stuff very good and intelligent whilst other stuff off the fucking scale and totally bizarre ???

And this is why you shouldn't smoke crack, children

[kinkylola]

so Pep is the problem .. Outclassed by Conte ... even though their goals were from a peanut head deflection and a penalty rebound. Got it.

here are some stats:

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8 ... hes/855479

60% possession, DOUBLE the total passes, DOUBLE the passes in the att. 3rd.

Is Pep supposed to manage bent refs? I guess it's Pep's fault the fern brought pedro down and that John Stones missed a sitter.

We've got the mentality of an entire organization to change, all the way down to the tactics ... and apparently a lot of fans.

[mr_nool]

so Pep is the problem .. Outclassed by Conte ... even though their goals were from a peanut head deflection and a penalty rebound. Got it.

here are some stats:

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8 ... hes/855479

60% possession, DOUBLE the total passes, DOUBLE the passes in the att. 3rd.

Is Pep supposed to manage bent refs? I guess it's Pep's fault the fern brought pedro down and that John Stones missed a sitter.

We've got the mentality of an entire organization to change, all the way down to the tactics ... and apparently a lot of fans.

What were the stats for the first half? Content totally closed the game by bringing Matic on. Despite all our possession we didn't look like scoring (apart from set pieces). Possession stats are bullshit anyway. Leicester won the bloody Premier League with about 35% possession for fuck's sake.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

so Pep is the problem .. Outclassed by Conte ... even though their goals were from a peanut head deflection and a penalty rebound. Got it.

here are some stats:

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8 ... hes/855479

60% possession, DOUBLE the total passes, DOUBLE the passes in the att. 3rd.

Is Pep supposed to manage bent refs? I guess it's Pep's fault the fern brought pedro down and that John Stones missed a sitter.

We've got the mentality of an entire organization to change, all the way down to the tactics ... and apparently a lot of fans.

What were the stats for the first half? Content totally closed the game by bringing Matic on. Despite all our possession we didn't look like scoring (apart from set pieces). Possession stats are bullshit anyway. Leicester won the bloody Premier League with about 35% possession for fuck's sake.

Half time:

Possession: 39% v 61%
Shots: 5 v 10
On Target: 3 v 5
Corners: 1 v 3
Offsides: 1 v 0
Fouls: 3 v 4

[kinkylola]

so Pep is the problem .. Outclassed by Conte ... even though their goals were from a peanut head deflection and a penalty rebound. Got it.

here are some stats:

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8 ... hes/855479

60% possession, DOUBLE the total passes, DOUBLE the passes in the att. 3rd.

Is Pep supposed to manage bent refs? I guess it's Pep's fault the fern brought pedro down and that John Stones missed a sitter.

We've got the mentality of an entire organization to change, all the way down to the tactics ... and apparently a lot of fans.

What were the stats for the first half? Content totally closed the game by bringing Matic on. Despite all our possession we didn't look like scoring (apart from set pieces). Possession stats are bullshit anyway. Leicester won the bloody Premier League with about 35% possession for fuck's sake.

I'd get used to possession if I were you ... because that is how we are looking to play all the way down to the youth teams for the foreseeable future, pep and beyond.

[mr_nool]

so Pep is the problem .. Outclassed by Conte ... even though their goals were from a peanut head deflection and a penalty rebound. Got it.

here are some stats:

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8 ... hes/855479

60% possession, DOUBLE the total passes, DOUBLE the passes in the att. 3rd.

Is Pep supposed to manage bent refs? I guess it's Pep's fault the fern brought pedro down and that John Stones missed a sitter.

We've got the mentality of an entire organization to change, all the way down to the tactics ... and apparently a lot of fans.

What were the stats for the first half? Content totally closed the game by bringing Matic on. Despite all our possession we didn't look like scoring (apart from set pieces). Possession stats are bullshit anyway. Leicester won the bloody Premier League with about 35% possession for fuck's sake.

I'd get used to possession if I were you ... because that is how we are looking to play all the way down to the youth teams for the foreseeable future, pep and beyond.

I don't mind possession based football, I'm just saying that having more possession doesn't automatically give you the three points. The quality of the chances you create is much more important than the number of chances.

[aaron bond]

so Pep is the problem .. Outclassed by Conte ... even though their goals were from a peanut head deflection and a penalty rebound. Got it.

here are some stats:

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8 ... hes/855479

60% possession, DOUBLE the total passes, DOUBLE the passes in the att. 3rd.

Is Pep supposed to manage bent refs? I guess it's Pep's fault the fern brought pedro down and that John Stones missed a sitter.

We've got the mentality of an entire organization to change, all the way down to the tactics ... and apparently a lot of fans.

What were the stats for the first half? Content totally closed the game by bringing Matic on. Despite all our possession we didn't look like scoring (apart from set pieces). Possession stats are bullshit anyway. Leicester won the bloody Premier League with about 35% possession for fuck's sake.

I'd get used to possession if I were you ... because that is how we are looking to play all the way down to the youth teams for the foreseeable future, pep and beyond.

I don't mind possession based football, I'm just saying that having more possession doesn't automatically give you the three points. The quality of the chances you create is much more important than the number of chances.

Agreed.

After what we've witnessed this season I still don't know why people quote statistics like that.

We regularly have more possession, almost always have more shots, but regularly concede from the first shot we face. As a result we've not been in the title race since the first few games of the season.

Pep's plan, whatever it may be, has failed this season. No doubt about it. We've been out-thought and out-fought far too often. We have a hugely unbalanced squad and require additions in almost every department (which is not all Pep's fault). But he needs to learn from his mistakes if we are to improve next season and so far he's shown little evidence that he is beginning to do so.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

That's where I disagree Aaron, he hasn't been out thought, he's been let down by profligacy and individual errors.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

That's where I disagree Aaron, he hasn't been out thought, he's been let down by profligacy and individual errors.

He certainly hasn't been outthought. We'll see how outthought he is next season when we have a few more players on the pitch that actually give a shit and can defend.

[Justified logic]

Question:

Given that the best teams, the title winners, have a strong defence and therefore don't need to score so many to win, do you think that Pulis or Fat Sam, both managers who construct solid defences as the basis of their tactics, would have done better or worse this season than Guardiola with the resources available?

Are you serious? Or is this a wind up.

Strange poster this guy JL for sure ! Some stuff very good and intelligent whilst other stuff off the fucking scale and totally bizarre ???

Luv ya too City64.

Well it was a hypothetical question. Just thinking outside the box...

Do you think Guardiola would have done better this season if he'd been less dogmatic and more pragmatic? If he'd taken on board how the English game is played? If he'd realised the qualities needed of a PL goalie? If he'd organised his aged defence into a ...er, a defence? If he'd recognised the strengths and weaknesses of this squad (and youths) and adapted his tactics to their strengths? In short, if he'd been a bit more like Pulis or BFS and a bit less like an know-it-all whilst he evaluated his squad and gradually introduced the changes in tactics that he wanted to see?