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Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:We had a player sent off who didn't commit a foul. We have strikers who can't hit a barn door. But they dug a result out despite that.

gmercer1 wrote:

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:We had a player sent off who didn't commit a foul. We have strikers who can't hit a barn door. But they dug a result out despite that.

Well said

dick dastardley wrote:Forget the footie for a moment, things never change at city, south stand ran out of beer before a ball had kicked!!
And pies are now £4 robbing bastards, I'll be getting mine over the road from now on!!

• I'm still livid with Sané for their goal. I know he's not a LWB and never will be and I can forgive him for losing possession - those things happen. But jogging back is inexcusable. Leroy was very good at the end of last season, but I hope he gets a good bollocking from Pep and that he will be benched for a few games to learn a lesson.
  
• Having seen umpteen replays of the Walker incident, it is obvious that we were done by the ref, but Walker was never the less really fucking stupid for putting in that challenge so shortly after getting his first yellow. He needs to learn sharpish that you just can't give the officials any excuses to screw us over when you play for City, because they will jump on it.
  
• We desperately need another left back. Not getting one could easily cost us the league. Going into the season with only three fullbacks is suicide.
  
• I'm pretty sure Pep won't trust Mangala and/or Tosin this season, so we need another CB as well. A left back is priority, though.
  
• 3-5-2 stymies our attack, but the biggest problem I saw with it last night was that it also hampered our pressing game. The back three - probably down to insecurity - played too deep, which created a big space between them and the midfield for Everton to exploit. A high pressing requires that the players behind the pressing player move up and cover the passing alternatives that arise when he moves into pressing position.
  
• Danilo looks ten times the player on the right than on the left. Walker will have serious (and healthy) competition when Mendy's back.
  
• Bernardo Silva will be a great player for us.
  
• Is KdB a flat track Bully? Great at times yesterday, but also gave the ball away so often in dangerous situations.
  
• Raheem needs to start the next game - either on the right in a 4-3-3 or instead of either Jesu's or Aguero if Pep persists with 3-5-2. Oh, and have patience with Jesus. He's still a kid. Thinking that he will be able to keep up is goal ratio from last season is naive. Yesterday he seemed to play deeper and let Kun occupy the box. I think he did quite well until he went off and you can see that he is a proper footballer, not just a poacher.
  
• We did play very well with ten men in the second half and I will take that from this game. Hopefully we can build on that, rather than going into panic mode.

mr_nool wrote:After having a night's sleep to calm down, here're my two cents:

• I'm still livid with Sané for their goal. I know he's not a LWB and never will be and I can forgive him for losing possession - those things happen. But jogging back is inexcusable. Leroy was very good at the end of last season, but I hope he gets a good bollocking from Pep and that he will be benched for a few games to learn a lesson.
  
• Having seen umpteen replays of the Walker incident, it is obvious that we were done by the ref, but Walker was never the less really fucking stupid for putting in that challenge so shortly after getting his first yellow. He needs to learn sharpish that you just can't give the officials any excuses to screw us over when you play for City, because they will jump on it.
  
• We desperately need another left back. Not getting one could easily cost us the league. Going into the season with only three fullbacks is suicide.
  
• I'm pretty sure Pep won't trust Mangala and/or Tosin this season, so we need another CB as well. A left back is priority, though.
  
• 3-5-2 stymies our attack, but the biggest problem I saw with it last night was that it also hampered our pressing game. The back three - probably down to insecurity - played too deep, which created a big space between them and the midfield for Everton to exploit. A high pressing requires that the players behind the pressing player move up and cover the passing alternatives that arise when he moves into pressing position.
  
• Danilo looks ten times the player on the right than on the left. Walker will have serious (and healthy) competition when Mendy's back.
  
• Bernardo Silva will be a great player for us.
  
• Is KdB a flat track Bully? Great at times yesterday, but also gave the ball away so often in dangerous situations.
  
• Raheem needs to start the next game - either on the right in a 4-3-3 or instead of either Jesu's or Aguero if Pep persists with 3-5-2. Oh, and have patience with Jesus. He's still a kid. Thinking that he will be able to keep up is goal ratio from last season is naive. Yesterday he seemed to play deeper and let Kun occupy the box. I think he did quite well until he went off and you can see that he is a proper footballer, not just a poacher.
  
• We did play very well with ten men in the second half and I will take that from this game. Hopefully we can build on that, rather than going into panic mode.

City64 wrote:Pep is a cunt and I got home quicker than Hutch,s Shoulder .

just sayin !

mr_nool wrote:After having a night's sleep to calm down, here're my two cents:

• I'm still livid with Sané for their goal. I know he's not a LWB and never will be and I can forgive him for losing possession - those things happen. But jogging back is inexcusable. Leroy was very good at the end of last season, but I hope he gets a good bollocking from Pep and that he will be benched for a few games to learn a lesson.
  
• Having seen umpteen replays of the Walker incident, it is obvious that we were done by the ref, but Walker was never the less really fucking stupid for putting in that challenge so shortly after getting his first yellow. He needs to learn sharpish that you just can't give the officials any excuses to screw us over when you play for City, because they will jump on it.
  
• We desperately need another left back. Not getting one could easily cost us the league. Going into the season with only three fullbacks is suicide.
  
• I'm pretty sure Pep won't trust Mangala and/or Tosin this season, so we need another CB as well. A left back is priority, though.
  
• 3-5-2 stymies our attack, but the biggest problem I saw with it last night was that it also hampered our pressing game. The back three - probably down to insecurity - played too deep, which created a big space between them and the midfield for Everton to exploit. A high pressing requires that the players behind the pressing player move up and cover the passing alternatives that arise when he moves into pressing position.
  
• Danilo looks ten times the player on the right than on the left. Walker will have serious (and healthy) competition when Mendy's back.
  
• Bernardo Silva will be a great player for us.
  
• Is KdB a flat track Bully? Great at times yesterday, but also gave the ball away so often in dangerous situations.
  
• Raheem needs to start the next game - either on the right in a 4-3-3 or instead of either Jesu's or Aguero if Pep persists with 3-5-2. Oh, and have patience with Jesus. He's still a kid. Thinking that he will be able to keep up is goal ratio from last season is naive. Yesterday he seemed to play deeper and let Kun occupy the box. I think he did quite well until he went off and you can see that he is a proper footballer, not just a poacher.
  
• We did play very well with ten men in the second half and I will take that from this game. Hopefully we can build on that, rather than going into panic mode.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

mr_nool wrote:After having a night's sleep to calm down, here're my two cents:

• I'm still livid with Sané for their goal. I know he's not a LWB and never will be and I can forgive him for losing possession - those things happen. But jogging back is inexcusable. Leroy was very good at the end of last season, but I hope he gets a good bollocking from Pep and that he will be benched for a few games to learn a lesson.
  
• Having seen umpteen replays of the Walker incident, it is obvious that we were done by the ref, but Walker was never the less really fucking stupid for putting in that challenge so shortly after getting his first yellow. He needs to learn sharpish that you just can't give the officials any excuses to screw us over when you play for City, because they will jump on it.
  
• We desperately need another left back. Not getting one could easily cost us the league. Going into the season with only three fullbacks is suicide.
  
• I'm pretty sure Pep won't trust Mangala and/or Tosin this season, so we need another CB as well. A left back is priority, though.
  
• 3-5-2 stymies our attack, but the biggest problem I saw with it last night was that it also hampered our pressing game. The back three - probably down to insecurity - played too deep, which created a big space between them and the midfield for Everton to exploit. A high pressing requires that the players behind the pressing player move up and cover the passing alternatives that arise when he moves into pressing position.
  
• Danilo looks ten times the player on the right than on the left. Walker will have serious (and healthy) competition when Mendy's back.
  
• Bernardo Silva will be a great player for us.
  
• Is KdB a flat track Bully? Great at times yesterday, but also gave the ball away so often in dangerous situations.
  
• Raheem needs to start the next game - either on the right in a 4-3-3 or instead of either Jesu's or Aguero if Pep persists with 3-5-2. Oh, and have patience with Jesus. He's still a kid. Thinking that he will be able to keep up is goal ratio from last season is naive. Yesterday he seemed to play deeper and let Kun occupy the box. I think he did quite well until he went off and you can see that he is a proper footballer, not just a poacher.
  
• We did play very well with ten men in the second half and I will take that from this game. Hopefully we can build on that, rather than going into panic mode.

I'm struggling with your opinion on Walker, can't for the life of me see anything wrong.

mr_nool wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

mr_nool wrote:After having a night's sleep to calm down, here're my two cents:

• I'm still livid with Sané for their goal. I know he's not a LWB and never will be and I can forgive him for losing possession - those things happen. But jogging back is inexcusable. Leroy was very good at the end of last season, but I hope he gets a good bollocking from Pep and that he will be benched for a few games to learn a lesson.
  
• Having seen umpteen replays of the Walker incident, it is obvious that we were done by the ref, but Walker was never the less really fucking stupid for putting in that challenge so shortly after getting his first yellow. He needs to learn sharpish that you just can't give the officials any excuses to screw us over when you play for City, because they will jump on it.
  
• We desperately need another left back. Not getting one could easily cost us the league. Going into the season with only three fullbacks is suicide.
  
• I'm pretty sure Pep won't trust Mangala and/or Tosin this season, so we need another CB as well. A left back is priority, though.
  
• 3-5-2 stymies our attack, but the biggest problem I saw with it last night was that it also hampered our pressing game. The back three - probably down to insecurity - played too deep, which created a big space between them and the midfield for Everton to exploit. A high pressing requires that the players behind the pressing player move up and cover the passing alternatives that arise when he moves into pressing position.
  
• Danilo looks ten times the player on the right than on the left. Walker will have serious (and healthy) competition when Mendy's back.
  
• Bernardo Silva will be a great player for us.
  
• Is KdB a flat track Bully? Great at times yesterday, but also gave the ball away so often in dangerous situations.
  
• Raheem needs to start the next game - either on the right in a 4-3-3 or instead of either Jesu's or Aguero if Pep persists with 3-5-2. Oh, and have patience with Jesus. He's still a kid. Thinking that he will be able to keep up is goal ratio from last season is naive. Yesterday he seemed to play deeper and let Kun occupy the box. I think he did quite well until he went off and you can see that he is a proper footballer, not just a poacher.
  
• We did play very well with ten men in the second half and I will take that from this game. Hopefully we can build on that, rather than going into panic mode.

I'm struggling with your opinion on Walker, can't for the life of me see anything wrong.

You don't see the position of the ball in that link. Walker didn't follow the path of the ball - instead he looked back at where the Everton player was and deliberately backed into him before moving on to the ball. A foul in other words.

It would have been a different question altogether if he was just positioning himself for a header and the Everton player was in the path of the ball, but he wasn't. I.E. Walker went out of his way to block him.

dick dastardley wrote:Forget the footie for a moment, things never change at city, south stand ran out of beer before a ball had kicked!!
And pies are now £4 robbing bastards, I'll be getting mine over the road from now on!!

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

mr_nool wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:

mr_nool wrote:After having a night's sleep to calm down, here're my two cents:

• I'm still livid with Sané for their goal. I know he's not a LWB and never will be and I can forgive him for losing possession - those things happen. But jogging back is inexcusable. Leroy was very good at the end of last season, but I hope he gets a good bollocking from Pep and that he will be benched for a few games to learn a lesson.
  
• Having seen umpteen replays of the Walker incident, it is obvious that we were done by the ref, but Walker was never the less really fucking stupid for putting in that challenge so shortly after getting his first yellow. He needs to learn sharpish that you just can't give the officials any excuses to screw us over when you play for City, because they will jump on it.
  
• We desperately need another left back. Not getting one could easily cost us the league. Going into the season with only three fullbacks is suicide.
  
• I'm pretty sure Pep won't trust Mangala and/or Tosin this season, so we need another CB as well. A left back is priority, though.
  
• 3-5-2 stymies our attack, but the biggest problem I saw with it last night was that it also hampered our pressing game. The back three - probably down to insecurity - played too deep, which created a big space between them and the midfield for Everton to exploit. A high pressing requires that the players behind the pressing player move up and cover the passing alternatives that arise when he moves into pressing position.
  
• Danilo looks ten times the player on the right than on the left. Walker will have serious (and healthy) competition when Mendy's back.
  
• Bernardo Silva will be a great player for us.
  
• Is KdB a flat track Bully? Great at times yesterday, but also gave the ball away so often in dangerous situations.
  
• Raheem needs to start the next game - either on the right in a 4-3-3 or instead of either Jesu's or Aguero if Pep persists with 3-5-2. Oh, and have patience with Jesus. He's still a kid. Thinking that he will be able to keep up is goal ratio from last season is naive. Yesterday he seemed to play deeper and let Kun occupy the box. I think he did quite well until he went off and you can see that he is a proper footballer, not just a poacher.
  
• We did play very well with ten men in the second half and I will take that from this game. Hopefully we can build on that, rather than going into panic mode.

I'm struggling with your opinion on Walker, can't for the life of me see anything wrong.

You don't see the position of the ball in that link. Walker didn't follow the path of the ball - instead he looked back at where the Everton player was and deliberately backed into him before moving on to the ball. A foul in other words.

It would have been a different question altogether if he was just positioning himself for a header and the Everton player was in the path of the ball, but he wasn't. I.E. Walker went out of his way to block him.

That type of thing happens a couple of dozen times a game, strikers constantly back into defenders like that. If that's a foul then the game really has gone to shit.

zabbadabbado wrote:I wasn’t happy with Guardiola running straight to the Wig wearing granny Shagger at the final Whistle. I am not going to lie; I am struggling to warm to the Guy. I have been since day one; his snide derogatory, demeaning, comments really irked me last season. As did his constant gesticulating to our fans to sing, Ironic really when you think we had already won 2 Titles before his Spafia buddies and he arrived at the Club to reinvent the Wheel..

I just get the feeling he doesn’t really like us. I can’t shake that feeling off.

Hope to fuck he starts keeping hise ego in check.And stops acting like a cunt.

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Fair enough Noolie, we'll have to agree to disagree mate,the game is gone too soft for my liking.

I have to wonder if he'd been wearing white would that have been deemed a foul.

mr_nool wrote:

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Fair enough Noolie, we'll have to agree to disagree mate,the game is gone too soft for my liking.

I have to wonder if he'd been wearing white would that have been deemed a foul.

I do agree with football being way too soft nowadays. But with it being what it is, I think Walker was being daft.