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nottsblue wrote:Can’t see them doing anything for a long time. Their starting point is very low and they have have a huge amount of ground to make up on even an Everton or Leicester, let alone the top 4.

And it isn’t as if they can just start to splash the cash on either transfer fees or wages. That door to potential quick success has been locked by the red shirt teams. They will need four or five years of signings at least. I mean, look at the rags as an example. They have spent in excess of half a billion and have the highest wage bill in the PL and are no nearer to winning the PL since bacon fucked off.

I think the reality will start to bite sooner rather than later for the Geordies. I wish them well personally. A couple of mates support Newcastle and they are a “sleeping giant” in old parlance.

Harry Dowd scored wrote:

nottsblue wrote:Can’t see them doing anything for a long time. Their starting point is very low and they have have a huge amount of ground to make up on even an Everton or Leicester, let alone the top 4.

And it isn’t as if they can just start to splash the cash on either transfer fees or wages. That door to potential quick success has been locked by the red shirt teams. They will need four or five years of signings at least. I mean, look at the rags as an example. They have spent in excess of half a billion and have the highest wage bill in the PL and are no nearer to winning the PL since bacon fucked off.

I think the reality will start to bite sooner rather than later for the Geordies. I wish them well personally. A couple of mates support Newcastle and they are a “sleeping giant” in old parlance.

I know what you are saying is correct, however until they qualify for Europe they can more or less spend what they want , at that point they will only be a couple of signings away from challenging for title.
Like I say don't rule their success out.

Crossie wrote:Who is going to sign for them? Why would any potential great players not pick City, United, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, Leicester, Burnley, Everton… I’m sure I’m missing one but hey. All these clubs have been taken over & have enough money.

The ship has sailed when it comes to overnight success. It’ll take them 5 years to challenge for the top 4. They are so far behind and it’s not easy just because you have some (blood) money now.

Can’t wait for Bobby Manx to turn them down, Conte to wait for United and they end up with some German experimental manager.

Mase wrote:

Harry Dowd scored wrote:

nottsblue wrote:Can’t see them doing anything for a long time. Their starting point is very low and they have have a huge amount of ground to make up on even an Everton or Leicester, let alone the top 4.

And it isn’t as if they can just start to splash the cash on either transfer fees or wages. That door to potential quick success has been locked by the red shirt teams. They will need four or five years of signings at least. I mean, look at the rags as an example. They have spent in excess of half a billion and have the highest wage bill in the PL and are no nearer to winning the PL since bacon fucked off.

I think the reality will start to bite sooner rather than later for the Geordies. I wish them well personally. A couple of mates support Newcastle and they are a “sleeping giant” in old parlance.

I know what you are saying is correct, however until they qualify for Europe they can more or less spend what they want , at that point they will only be a couple of signings away from challenging for title.
Like I say don't rule their success out.

I thought there was a domestic version of FFP as well?

Harry Dowd scored wrote:

Mase wrote:

Harry Dowd scored wrote:

nottsblue wrote:Can’t see them doing anything for a long time. Their starting point is very low and they have have a huge amount of ground to make up on even an Everton or Leicester, let alone the top 4.

And it isn’t as if they can just start to splash the cash on either transfer fees or wages. That door to potential quick success has been locked by the red shirt teams. They will need four or five years of signings at least. I mean, look at the rags as an example. They have spent in excess of half a billion and have the highest wage bill in the PL and are no nearer to winning the PL since bacon fucked off.

I think the reality will start to bite sooner rather than later for the Geordies. I wish them well personally. A couple of mates support Newcastle and they are a “sleeping giant” in old parlance.

I know what you are saying is correct, however until they qualify for Europe they can more or less spend what they want , at that point they will only be a couple of signings away from challenging for title.
Like I say don't rule their success out.

I thought there was a domestic version of FFP as well?

The pl do have a version of ffp however it is far less harsh than the corrupt eufa version which was designed to stop City.

Harry Dowd scored wrote:

nottsblue wrote:Can’t see them doing anything for a long time. Their starting point is very low and they have have a huge amount of ground to make up on even an Everton or Leicester, let alone the top 4.

And it isn’t as if they can just start to splash the cash on either transfer fees or wages. That door to potential quick success has been locked by the red shirt teams. They will need four or five years of signings at least. I mean, look at the rags as an example. They have spent in excess of half a billion and have the highest wage bill in the PL and are no nearer to winning the PL since bacon fucked off.

I think the reality will start to bite sooner rather than later for the Geordies. I wish them well personally. A couple of mates support Newcastle and they are a “sleeping giant” in old parlance.

I know what you are saying is correct, however until they qualify for Europe they can more or less spend what they want , at that point they will only be a couple of signings away from challenging for title.
Like I say don't rule their success out.

BlueinBosnia wrote:

Harry Dowd scored wrote:

nottsblue wrote:Can’t see them doing anything for a long time. Their starting point is very low and they have have a huge amount of ground to make up on even an Everton or Leicester, let alone the top 4.

And it isn’t as if they can just start to splash the cash on either transfer fees or wages. That door to potential quick success has been locked by the red shirt teams. They will need four or five years of signings at least. I mean, look at the rags as an example. They have spent in excess of half a billion and have the highest wage bill in the PL and are no nearer to winning the PL since bacon fucked off.

I think the reality will start to bite sooner rather than later for the Geordies. I wish them well personally. A couple of mates support Newcastle and they are a “sleeping giant” in old parlance.

I know what you are saying is correct, however until they qualify for Europe they can more or less spend what they want , at that point they will only be a couple of signings away from challenging for title.
Like I say don't rule their success out.

Even then, they can go the AC Milan route, and get intentionally banned from the Europa League through FFP in a bid to go for a CL league place by not having to bother with the Europa.

sheblue wrote:^^^^ Why would Sterling go there? Apart from money, which I guess there are FFP constraints on.
It could be 4, 5 or more years before they win anything or get into the top 4.
If he did sign that means no champions league football for years.
At this stage Newcastle have too much ground to make up. In a few years it might be a different matter.

sheblue wrote:^^^^ Why would Sterling go there? Apart from money, which I guess there are FFP constraints on.
It could be 4, 5 or more years before they win anything or get into the top 4.
If he did sign that means no champions league football for years.
At this stage Newcastle have too much ground to make up. In a few years it might be a different matter.

Harry Dowd scored wrote:Just noticed this in the Guardian, looks like we are not to happy with the Saudi take over - :
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. Angry Premier League clubs demand emergency meeting on Newcastle deal
Other 19 clubs united in opposition to Newcastle takeover
Clubs concerned Premier League’s brand could be damaged
Exclusive by David Hytner, Peter Walker and Josh Halliday

Hazy2 wrote:

sheblue wrote:^^^^ Why would Sterling go there? Apart from money, which I guess there are FFP constraints on.
It could be 4, 5 or more years before they win anything or get into the top 4.
If he did sign that means no champions league football for years.
At this stage Newcastle have too much ground to make up. In a few years it might be a different matter.

Gerrard could be the manager, that might attract Raheem and of course £500,000 a week.

sheblue wrote:

Hazy2 wrote:

sheblue wrote:^^^^ Why would Sterling go there? Apart from money, which I guess there are FFP constraints on.
It could be 4, 5 or more years before they win anything or get into the top 4.
If he did sign that means no champions league football for years.
At this stage Newcastle have too much ground to make up. In a few years it might be a different matter.

Gerrard could be the manager, that might attract Raheem and of course £500,000 a week.

Gerrard? I think they will go for a high calibre manager.
Gerrard has done nothing to warrant going to manage Newcastle or any other prem side.
He won the league in Scotland, essentially with Celtic in complete disarray, it's a one team league, hardly managerial achievement of the decade is it.
I could have done it myself.
Gerrard

sheblue wrote:

Hazy2 wrote:

sheblue wrote:^^^^ Why would Sterling go there? Apart from money, which I guess there are FFP constraints on.
It could be 4, 5 or more years before they win anything or get into the top 4.
If he did sign that means no champions league football for years.
At this stage Newcastle have too much ground to make up. In a few years it might be a different matter.

Gerrard could be the manager, that might attract Raheem and of course £500,000 a week.

Gerrard? I think they will go for a high calibre manager.
Gerrard has done nothing to warrant going to manage Newcastle or any other prem side.
He won the league in Scotland, essentially with Celtic in complete disarray, it's a one team league, hardly managerial achievement of the decade is it.
I could have done it myself.
Gerrard

Harry Dowd scored wrote:Just noticed this in the Guardian, looks like we are not to happy with the Saudi take over - :
.
. Angry Premier League clubs demand emergency meeting on Newcastle deal
Other 19 clubs united in opposition to Newcastle takeover
Clubs concerned Premier League’s brand could be damaged
Exclusive by David Hytner, Peter Walker and Josh Halliday