Kevin - a player in decline?

[sheblue]

Well now great players who are technically very good, can play well into their 30s.
Just look at modric, messi etc. They don't need to be running around like 18 year old.
Plenty of life in kev yet.

[john@staustell]

Well now great players who are technically very good, can play well into their 30s.
Just look at modric, messi etc. They don't need to be running around like 18 year old.
Plenty of life in kev yet.

Yes but more often than not they pass to their own team

[Mase]

Well now great players who are technically very good, can play well into their 30s.
Just look at modric, messi etc. They don't need to be running around like 18 year old.
Plenty of life in kev yet.

They need someone next to them to do that running. Messi had Alvarez at the WC. Any aging player will need someone with energy to play with them. Gundo isn’t that guy unfortunately.

[sheblue]

Well now great players who are technically very good, can play well into their 30s.
Just look at modric, messi etc. They don't need to be running around like 18 year old.
Plenty of life in kev yet.

They need someone next to them to do that running. Messi had Alvarez at the WC. Any aging player will need someone with energy to play with them. Gundo isn’t that guy unfortunately.

No but Bellingham is.

[sheblue]

Well now great players who are technically very good, can play well into their 30s.
Just look at modric, messi etc. They don't need to be running around like 18 year old.
Plenty of life in kev yet.

Yes but more often than not they pass to their own team

Well two weeks ago or less some spoons were writing Phil Foden off.

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[Mase]

Well now great players who are technically very good, can play well into their 30s.
Just look at modric, messi etc. They don't need to be running around like 18 year old.
Plenty of life in kev yet.

They need someone next to them to do that running. Messi had Alvarez at the WC. Any aging player will need someone with energy to play with them. Gundo isn’t that guy unfortunately.

No but Bellingham is.

100% we should, and I imagine we are going all out for him

[sheblue]

Well now great players who are technically very good, can play well into their 30s.
Just look at modric, messi etc. They don't need to be running around like 18 year old.
Plenty of life in kev yet.

They need someone next to them to do that running. Messi had Alvarez at the WC. Any aging player will need someone with energy to play with them. Gundo isn’t that guy unfortunately.

No but Bellingham is.

100% we should, and I imagine we are going all out for him

Most definitely.

[john@staustell]

Well now great players who are technically very good, can play well into their 30s.
Just look at modric, messi etc. They don't need to be running around like 18 year old.
Plenty of life in kev yet.

Yes but more often than not they pass to their own team

Well two weeks ago or less some spoons were writing Phil Foden off.

Not really. He played bad, got left out. Now playing well, back in!

Some of KDBs play has been shocking, appalling. Inexplicable missed passes.
It amazes me some people can't seem to see it.

Needs to buck up, basically

[MIAMCFC]

Well now great players who are technically very good, can play well into their 30s.
Just look at modric, messi etc. They don't need to be running around like 18 year old.
Plenty of life in kev yet.

Yes but more often than not they pass to their own team

Well two weeks ago or less some spoons were writing Phil Foden off.

Not really. He played bad, got left out. Now playing well, back in!

Some of KDBs play has been shocking, appalling. Inexplicable missed passes.
It amazes me some people can't seem to see it.

Needs to buck up, basically

Every player has dips. I saw it live yesterday but his class is unquestionable.

[zuricity]

Well now great players who are technically very good, can play well into their 30s.
Just look at modric, messi etc. They don't need to be running around like 18 year old.
Plenty of life in kev yet.

Yes but more often than not they pass to their own team

The pitch was too wet yesterday. According to Jürgen.

[zuricity]

Join in carl….. x

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[john68]

Ridiculous thread.
There was only 1 person going to start it

And this is why we don’t have threads anymore on the forum.
If you want to start a debate, with arguments, you get answers like this one.

Debate and discussion are fine Peter but it does seem that almost all debates started by you have to have a negative starting point.
The overwhelming negativity on here is the main reason why I can't be arsed coming on as often.

A total lack of realism abounds, all players go through good and poor patches. Whatever KDB's current form is, I see a worn out overplayed athlete trying his level best to keep his standards high but sometimes just needing a long break to fully recover.

We had a thread about Foden recently and how poor he'd become.
Can younow start a thread about how fukkin good he's become again/
And the same for Grealish and others who's form dipped temporarily

[MIAMCFC]

Join in carl….. x

I hope you are going to pay the copyright fees for quoting that song.

You can hope.

[zuricity]

Join in carl….. x

I hope you are going to pay the copyright fees for quoting that song.

You can hope.

Nah come on , he's been a bit off the boil in recent games , but despite the fact that it was Bristol City, very few of us can roll the ball foward like he did
and smack the ball into the corner of the net . very few of us . it wasn't his fault Erling couldn't finish the header . tin tin did the right thing there. We have to see the game as a whole and not just knee jerk react to one or two scenes.

[sheblue]

Well now great players who are technically very good, can play well into their 30s.
Just look at modric, messi etc. They don't need to be running around like 18 year old.
Plenty of life in kev yet.

Yes but more often than not they pass to their own team

Well two weeks ago or less some spoons were writing Phil Foden off.

Not really. He played bad, got left out. Now playing well, back in!

Some of KDBs play has been shocking, appalling. Inexplicable missed passes.
It amazes me some people can't seem to see it.

Needs to buck up, basically

We can all see it, but buck up? Really? You would swear we just conceded 7!!!
All of our players have had bad spells. It's natural it happens successful players in successful teams, it doesn't mean they have to be written off.

I would still pick him over the likes of Bruno Bitch-boy, wouldn't you?

[Sparklehorse]

Well now great players who are technically very good, can play well into their 30s.
Just look at modric, messi etc. They don't need to be running around like 18 year old.
Plenty of life in kev yet.

Yes but more often than not they pass to their own team

Well two weeks ago or less some spoons were writing Phil Foden off.

Not really. He played bad, got left out. Now playing well, back in!

Some of KDBs play has been shocking, appalling. Inexplicable missed passes.
It amazes me some people can't seem to see it.

Needs to buck up, basically

Absolutely spot on, he’s not immune to criticism and he’s had some shockers this season.

[PeterParker]

Ridiculous thread.
There was only 1 person going to start it

And this is why we don’t have threads anymore on the forum.
If you want to start a debate, with arguments, you get answers like this one.

Debate and discussion are fine Peter but it does seem that almost all debates started by you have to have a negative starting point.
The overwhelming negativity on here is the main reason why I can't be arsed coming on as often.

A total lack of realism abounds, all players go through good and poor patches. Whatever KDB's current form is, I see a worn out overplayed athlete trying his level best to keep his standards high but sometimes just needing a long break to fully recover.

We had a thread about Foden recently and how poor he'd become.
Can younow start a thread about how fukkin good he's become again/
And the same for Grealish and others who's form dipped temporarily

John, I didn’t start the Foden thread.
Also, if you look at my threads, the last one that might be “negative” was “Let’s talk about Pep”. Just to name a few: “Bellingham yay or nay”, “Panti retires” and “Dave vs Kevin - who was better”

I don’t get how you have this perception about being negative?

And going back to Kevin, has nothing to do with Foden. I was asking if the best playmaker this league saw, a player who will turn 32, might started his decline or it’s just a form?
Plus, check the thread, many metioned the same thing about his form.

Please, use the Pm option, I really want to know why you have that perception. You are a poster I respect and you bring quality to this forum, even if we seem not to see things eye to eye.

Cheers

[Mase]

It’s a good question to ask PP. It’s not just his age - he’s had bad injuries and gone off to play for Belgium with them. That will take its toll at some point. He’s also been ran into the ground a lot of seasons.

Sometime soon he will start to decline. The Modric’s of this world have the benefit of playing in a slow league where they have more time on the ball, so obviously they’ll be able to play longer there. They also have protection from refs. Where was Kev’s protection when he was assaulted by Rüdiger?

[Dimples]

Good question.
Kev has not been as consistently brilliant this season as he has in previous seasons. Time brings every footballer's career to an end, even the greats. Time is not on Kev's side and old injuries will probably be a factor in his decline as he ages.
IMO Kev will continue to stay relevant for City.
His skill set is unique, he can be a game changer, he is intelligent, mentally very strong and a winner.
Both City and Kev will adapt to keep him relevant. City will provide the supports required to maximize his impact and Kev will be intelligent enough to realize how he must adapt (what and why).
Kev has been the player that has adapted quickest to the arrival of Haaland. Way ahead of the pack. Unique talent.
Amazing player, love watching him play. Different level.