***Official Brum vs City Thread***

[The Original Special One]

Typical; if it had been the Rags that free kick would have gone in!

the rags conceded a late handball goal here to draw...

and because of the fuss Ferguson and his Meeja cronies made about the officials 'betrayal', they were 'compensated' for it in subsequent games

[trueblue64]

The thing that worries me is that other teams like Cheski, scum, etc have had there bad patch and are still there we seem to be going through our bad patch now. the problem we have is we have a good players out Aj 3 months MR who knows now and Mario we injured more than on the pitch. We have no pace at the moment and a keeper who seems to have lost confidence, we are leaking goals for fun, Tevez is worrying me yes he scored but he wants to do it all by himself and I don't know why. If we are not careful we will loose 4th spot come the end of the season......Tonight was woeful to watch please Bobby Manc sort it out.

[Original Dub]

Compared against last season against the same teams we are 1 point better off - just one point. If I was Khaldoon I wouldn't be happy with that return on investment.

1 fucking point.

All that arguing and how obvious it was that that clueless cunt needed to go...

1 fucking point.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Patrick Vieira was absolutely awful. Unforgivable in fact.

I hope he follows Chuckle into retirement tomorrow.

How shallow do our attacking options now look? We couldnt freshen it up at all.

Guidetti was on the bench and not used, but what's unforgivable was not playing Zabs from the start, not bringing him on when Richards went off, not bringing him on when de Jong went off.

THREE FUCKING OPPORTUNITIES, I AM SO FUCKING ANGRY AT THAT BALL-LESS WOP FUCKTARD WANKER AT THE MOMENT IT'S SURREAL. LET ADE GO OUT ON LOAN, KEEP JO. PUT JO ON THE BENCH, LEAVE SWP OUT COMPLETELY. HE IS PUTTING HIMSELF ABOVE THE CLUB AND THAT'S WHATS UNFORGIVABLE.

Mancini's unbridled arrogance is out of control. he's really taking the piss with the roster, the team selection and his attention to detail in Cup competitions. It's coming back to haunt us.

Do we need a Joe Hart gaffe for say 4 matches in a row before we do something? I'm sorry, some won't agree, but he should be stopping that first goal every day of the week.

not happy.

Glad there are people who actually watch the game and not other fucking deluded gits that dont...it was a ridiculous goal to concede...granted the defence were shite but the ball went straight down the middle and Hart should have dealt with it.....4 shit games and counting.

[The Original Special One]

Lets ignore the fact that we wernt that great (to be fair 2-1 and we win I think we played well; the commentators on 301 at half time said wer were 'amazin') but we had TWO BLATANT pens ruled out.


Stephen carr handball BLATANT

Silva trip.

Mancini is gonna get the fans on his back if he refuses to make subs and freezes out MORE of the limited players that may change us e.g. zaba or swp.

veira, jo and milner should fuck off. I'll give boateng the benefit of the doubt.

hart needs to fix the fuck up before hes put on gardening leave.

Has Hart made ANY saves in the last five games
He seems to save nothing, yet makes all too many cock-ups!

[Goataldo]

Only caught the last half hour (was playing football and lost, great), how long was Vera on for? He looked somehow a little off the pace. Unbelievable I know...

[PeterParker]

Ok, let's think about it for a second. Remember Sunderland's 4-3 last season ? Hughes was sacked and Bellamy, Ireland, Given, Adebayor and Santa Cruz ora SWP went to change the board decision.
One by one, Mancio transfered them (almost all) so maybe this is why Joe Hart became number one, after last season, Shay was number one (in my opinion).

Beside this, i think Mancio can turn this around and solve the shitty situation that we are in right now.

[MaineRoadMemories]

Compared against last season against the same teams we are 1 point better off - just one point. If I was Khaldoon I wouldn't be happy with that return on investment.

But you don't think we should be sacking the manager?

I don't think he is the man for City to win the league that is for sure. I think he's holding the potential of this team back a lot, I also think he's pissed off a lot of our squad leaving us with just a core 12-14 players to be called upon. I think he's making a lot of mistakes which he has not learnt from in 12 months of being in England.

But who's available? Nobody of any real note so I'll contine to support him when I'm at the match and continue to pick up on all his mistakes on this forum.

[Nick]

Patrick Vieira was absolutely awful. Unforgivable in fact.

I hope he follows Chuckle into retirement tomorrow.

How shallow do our attacking options now look? We couldnt freshen it up at all.

Guidetti was on the bench and not used, but what's unforgivable was not playing Zabs from the start, not bringing him on when Richards went off, not bringing him on when de Jong went off.

THREE FUCKING OPPORTUNITIES, I AM SO FUCKING ANGRY AT THAT BALL-LESS WOP FUCKTARD WANKER AT THE MOMENT IT'S SURREAL. LET ADE GO OUT ON LOAN, KEEP JO. PUT JO ON THE BENCH, LEAVE SWP OUT COMPLETELY. HE IS PUTTING HIMSELF ABOVE THE CLUB AND THAT'S WHATS UNFORGIVABLE.

Mancini's unbridled arrogance is out of control. he's really taking the piss with the roster, the team selection and his attention to detail in Cup competitions. It's coming back to haunt us.

Do we need a Joe Hart gaffe for say 4 matches in a row before we do something? I'm sorry, some won't agree, but he should be stopping that first goal every day of the week.

not happy.

Glad there are people who actually watch the game and not other fucking deluded gits that dont...it was a ridiculous goal to concede...granted the defence were shite but the ball went straight down the middle and Hart should have dealt with it.....4 shit games and counting.

SENSE. I saw this in october though. The tipping point was when he started doing kick ups for england

[Ted Hughes]

Lets not get too downhearted here , remember chelsea got beat here, the rags drew , liverpool drew , ok we played shite tonight , but im 100% sure normal service will be resumed on saturday with a victory over west brom at home on a proper playing surface, and im sure champions league qualification will be acheived, along with our 1st trophy in a long time , we have to learn to walk before we can run !

And we'll all live happilly ever after?

If Birmingham had played as well as Leicester & we had a weakened team I'd accept it. However,they were wide open to be beaten, they played badly & we stunk of shite.

Away games to come; Rags, Chelsea, Liverpool.

We have just seriously undermined our chances of top 4.

[Original Dub]

Compared against last season against the same teams we are 1 point better off - just one point. If I was Khaldoon I wouldn't be happy with that return on investment.

But you don't think we should be sacking the manager?

I don't think he is the man for City to win the league that is for sure. I think he's holding the potential of this team back a lot, I also think he's pissed off a lot of our squad leaving us with just a core 12-14 players to be called upon. I think he's making a lot of mistakes which he has not learnt from in 12 months of being in England.

But who's available? Nobody of any real note so I'll contine to support him when I'm at the match and continue to pick up on all his mistakes on this forum.

Absolutely.

We might finish fourth and I sure as shit don't want to risk throwing that away again, but winning the league with him could cost another 200m.

[Dameerto]

Only caught the last half hour (was playing football and lost, great), how long was Vera on for? He looked somehow a little off the pace. Unbelievable I know...

He came on at the start of the second half for de Jong (de Jong was involved in a clash of heads with Micah in the first half, Micah looked out cold but Nige came back on with a bandage on his head to see the half out).

Vieira was was off the pace and getting owned by a 37 year old striker. Totally to blame for the penalty against us and ended up costing us two points.

[Goataldo]

Only caught the last half hour (was playing football and lost, great), how long was Vera on for? He looked somehow a little off the pace. Unbelievable I know...

He came on at the start of the second half for de Jong (de Jong was involved in a clash of heads with Micah in the first half, Micah looked out cold but Nige came back on with a bandage on his head to see the half out).

Vieira was was off the pace and getting owned by a 37 year old striker. Totally to blame for the penalty against us and ended up costing us two points.

Second half sub? Guy looked shagged. I saw the pen, and it looked as soft as. I've seen at least two much worse challenges by some team I can't quite remember the name of, which weren't given. The ball had gone and his momentum carried him on, but it looked a nothing coming together. Maybe I need more than the one replay I saw. Wouldn't want to sound bitter! Not seen our goals.

Results like that make it look like this season could come right down to the wire like the last one. Such a direct comparison between Hughes' efforts and Mancini's would surely put the pressure on the board to look elsewhere if we fail. I don't reckon we will fail though. Between ripping it up and starting again, and sticking with Mancini, I think sticking with Mancini will bring silverware sooner.

[Ted Hughes]

Only caught the last half hour (was playing football and lost, great), how long was Vera on for? He looked somehow a little off the pace. Unbelievable I know...

He came on at the start of the second half for de Jong (de Jong was involved in a clash of heads with Micah in the first half, Micah looked out cold but Nige came back on with a bandage on his head to see the half out).

Vieira was was off the pace and getting owned by a 37 year old striker. Totally to blame for the penalty against us and ended up costing us two points.

Second half sub? Guy looked shagged. I saw the pen, and it looked as soft as. I've seen at least two much worse challenges by some team I can't quite remember the name of, which weren't given. The ball had gone and his momentum carried him on, but it looked a nothing coming together. Maybe I need more than the one replay I saw. Wouldn't want to sound bitter! Not seen our goals.

Results like that make it look like this season could come right down to the wire like the last one. Such a direct comparison between Hughes' efforts and Mancini's would surely put the pressure on the board to look elsewhere if we fail. I don't reckon we will fail though. Between ripping it up and starting again, and sticking with Mancini, I think sticking with Mancini will bring silverware sooner.

There's no point in getting rid of Bob, he'll get it right eventually after learning from his own mistakes & be a great manager even though tonight he was a useless twat. My only concern is that once he's learned from his mistakes, he still continues as City manager. If he plans to go back to Italy in the next few years anyway, then I'd fuck him off at the end of the season if Mourinho was available. there's no point in sticking with him if he's going to leave anyway, then all we get is the 'mistakes' bit. We need some sort of long term commitment.

[MaineRoadMemories]

What also disappoints me was the state of the bench tonight - not one player on it who could come on and change the game:

Shay Given
Pablo Zabaleta
Joleon Lescott
Patrick Vieira
Jo(ke)
Kolo Toure
John Guidetti

1 keeper
4 defenders!!
1 joke
1 kid

Not looking good :-(

[Goataldo]

Only caught the last half hour (was playing football and lost, great), how long was Vera on for? He looked somehow a little off the pace. Unbelievable I know...

He came on at the start of the second half for de Jong (de Jong was involved in a clash of heads with Micah in the first half, Micah looked out cold but Nige came back on with a bandage on his head to see the half out).

Vieira was was off the pace and getting owned by a 37 year old striker. Totally to blame for the penalty against us and ended up costing us two points.

Second half sub? Guy looked shagged. I saw the pen, and it looked as soft as. I've seen at least two much worse challenges by some team I can't quite remember the name of, which weren't given. The ball had gone and his momentum carried him on, but it looked a nothing coming together. Maybe I need more than the one replay I saw. Wouldn't want to sound bitter! Not seen our goals.

Results like that make it look like this season could come right down to the wire like the last one. Such a direct comparison between Hughes' efforts and Mancini's would surely put the pressure on the board to look elsewhere if we fail. I don't reckon we will fail though. Between ripping it up and starting again, and sticking with Mancini, I think sticking with Mancini will bring silverware sooner.

There's no point in getting rid of Bob, he'll get it right eventually after learning from his own mistakes & be a great manager even though tonight he was a useless twat. My only concern is that once he's learned from his mistakes, he still continues as City manager. If he plans to go back to Italy in the next few years anyway, then I'd fuck him off at the end of the season if Mourinho was available. there's no point in sticking with him if he's going to leave anyway, then all we get is the 'mistakes' bit. We need some sort of long term commitment.

Totally concur, but it's impossible to secure long term commitment in this game, particularly if your manager is from a different country with a strong football pedigree. The fact that we're offering the things a manager surely dreams of would surely be something only a maniac would voluntarily walk away from though?

Having seen the pen again on MotD, i think it looked as soft as silkworm farts. But if I'd been challenged like that in the box, I'd have gone mental.

[The Original Special One]

I've been an unstinting Mancini supporter from Day One, but this is looking worrying. Our last two League games can be summarised as follows:
We're hit by a sucker punch by an Aston Villa team committed to blanket defending at home; Joe Hart gifts Darren Bent a dream goal and we rarely look capable of scoring, never mind winning
We take an early lead, which we retrieve after conceding a soft goal, which, if our keeper had been alert, he would easily have saved. Having regained the lead we sit back and invite them to attack us, and our most experienced player concedes a second soft penalty in a row to deprive us of two points.

So, essentially, when we fall behind, we're found lacking
When we go ahead, we sit back and defend too deep, instead of going for the jugular

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

What also disappoints me was the state of the bench tonight - not one player on it who could come on and change the game:

Shay Given
Pablo Zabaleta
Joleon Lescott
Patrick Vieira
Jo(ke)
Kolo Toure
John Guidetti

1 keeper
4 defenders!!
1 joke
1 kid

Not looking good :-(

Agreed. Ade, Roque, Phil, Bellamy all City players too.

[Ted Hughes]

What also disappoints me was the state of the bench tonight - not one player on it who could come on and change the game:

Shay Given
Pablo Zabaleta
Joleon Lescott
Patrick Vieira
Jo(ke)
Kolo Toure
John Guidetti

1 keeper
4 defenders!!
1 joke
1 kid

Not looking good :-(

Agreed. Ade, Roque, Phil, Bellamy all City players too.

This is the real shitter for me. All season I've assumed that if we could make it to the Jan transfer window, we'd tweak the squad & come out all guns blazing. Signing one attacking player & losing 3 is a disaster imo.

[Original Dub]

What also disappoints me was the state of the bench tonight - not one player on it who could come on and change the game:

Shay Given
Pablo Zabaleta
Joleon Lescott
Patrick Vieira
Jo(ke)
Kolo Toure
John Guidetti

1 keeper
4 defenders!!
1 joke
1 kid

Not looking good :-(

Agreed. Ade, Roque, Phil, Bellamy all City players too.

This is the real shitter for me. All season I've assumed that if we could make it to the Jan transfer window, we'd tweak the squad & come out all guns blazing. Signing one attacking player & losing 3 is a disaster imo.

Even if it doesn't turn out to be the disaster you reckon, it will certainly have hampered our chances and that there is nothing but bad decision making. The players on the pitch cocking up can't be blamed for that, nor can the lack of options.