Pellegrini Satisfometer

[Blue Since 76]

They say to look at the league table after 10 games. Well we've played 11 and aren't even in a Europa place.

Of the 7 teams above us, we've only played 3, 2 at home, so we can't complain we've had a hard start. Due to the other results, we're not out of the title race yet, but we can't afford many more slip ups away and none at home.

On the grounds he's still learning about the PL, he's done OK, but he has to do better, or the whole project could be in trouble - would Aguero stay without CL football? Yaya? Silva?

[brite blu sky]

So if we can draw or beat Sunderland, our bogey team for the past couple of seasons, will that be enough to sway you?

I can see why you don't bet dazbi.

Seriously though I had wanted to say yes to this.

I'm sick of us gifting goals to poor teams.
If it wasn't such an open field we would be out of the title now, as it is there is still plenty of time as long as Pellegrini starts to make special arrangements for away games v crap teams. The simplest would be an old school DM who just sits there to read what long shot chancer balls the no-hopers are going to lob in at the defence and get to where it will land before any other City payers do.

If anyone thinks I'm joking, I'm not. Good teams try to play up to our goal which we can organise for as it builds, shit teams just lob a hopeful, preferably bouncing ball in, with at least one player chasing like fuck and we turn into a pub team.
It looks like individual errors, it isn't, it is not setting up the team to expect that kind of play and therefore know what the roles are if it happens and total lack of practice dealing with stuff like that in training.
Pellegrini saying nothing is wrong. He really needs to come down from the mountain top and wise up and take old fashioned English direct football seriously or we will continue to lose games to no-hoper teams all season. I am seriously starting to think this is his blind spot.

I like the bloke, I seriously want him to do well with us. I wouldn't be surprised if we beat Bayern in Munich, equally go and fuclin lose at Palace.

If Pulis could be a guest manager every week for a different team v City away, we would lose the fucking lot.

[Blue Since 76]

The simplest would be an old school DM who just sits there to read what long shot chancer balls the no-hopers are going to lob in at the defence and get to where it will land before any other City payers do.

The problem is the best one we had is now above us in the table. Fernandinho is not that sort of player. Neither is Garcia (although I'm not sure what he's good at). Milner can't just sit. Rodwell could do it for 70 minutes before he falls apart again.

[dazby]

So if we can draw or beat Sunderland, our bogey team for the past couple of seasons, will that be enough to sway you?

I can see why you don't bet dazbi.

Seriously though I had wanted to say yes to this.

I'm sick of us gifting goals to poor teams.
If it wasn't such an open field we would be out of the title now, as it is there is still plenty of time as long as Pellegrini starts to make special arrangements for away games v crap teams. The simplest would be an old school DM who just sits there to read what long shot chancer balls the no-hopers are going to lob in at the defence and get to where it will land before any other City payers do.

If anyone thinks I'm joking, I'm not. Good teams try to play up to our goal which we can organise for as it builds, shit teams just lob a hopeful, preferably bouncing ball in, with at least one player chasing like fuck and we turn into a pub team.
It looks like individual errors, it isn't, it is not setting up the team to expect that kind of play and therefore know what the roles are if it happens and total lack of practice dealing with stuff like that in training.
Pellegrini saying nothing is wrong. He really needs to come down from the mountain top and wise up and take old fashioned English direct football seriously or we will continue to lose games to no-hoper teams all season. I am seriously starting to think this is his blind spot.

I like the bloke, I seriously want him to do well with us. I wouldn't be surprised if we beat Bayern in Munich, equally go and fuclin lose at Palace.

If Pulis could be a guest manager every week for a different team v City away, we would lose the fucking lot.

No arguments from me for a while now mate.

[Beefymcfc]

Nothing more to say really.

1 Arsenal 11 12 25
2 Liverpool 11 11 23
3 Southampton 11 10 22
4 Chelsea 11 8 21
5 Man Utd 11 5 20
6 Everton 11 4 20
7 Tottenham 11 3 20
8 Man City 11 16 19

[ruralblue]

I have a funny feeling that we will continue with this dodgy away form but continue to rack up goals at home. Push on in the Champions League and with typical city embedded in me, go on to the final and not qualify for the competition next year!!!!

[aaron bond]

I've been in the dissatisfied camp pretty much all season as the defence has been shocking, although bumped myself up to 'neither' last week. But now it's firmly back to dissatisfied.

Losing 3 out of 9 was bad enough, but 4 out of 11 is appalling. So many people on here were laughing at United's exploits this season, yet they currently sit above us having played tougher games.

We're still in the title race due to the fact that other teams haven't broken away yet, but I don't have any confidence in our ability to win the league this season. I have serious concerns on us even making the top 4 right now.

The issue I currently have with Pellegrini is that he doesn't seem to notice the problems we have. He seems to think our defence is fine, that Garcia is a good player and that we played well yesterday. The problems we've been having have been occurring since pre-season and he's done absolutely nothing to rectify it. I know it's early days, but I'm already starting to wonder if he's the right guy for us.

[avoidconfusion]

Pellegrini can fuck off for all I care simply because he keeps sticking Garcia into the team.

[Chinners]

So many people on here were laughing at United's exploits this season, yet they currently sit above us having played tougher games.

Indeed, you should never write those bastids off untill all the votes are in.

[john68]

Nothing more to say really.

1 Arsenal 11 12 25
2 Liverpool 11 11 23
3 Southampton 11 10 22
4 Chelsea 11 8 21
5 Man Utd 11 5 20
6 Everton 11 4 20
7 Tottenham 11 3 20
8 Man City 11 16 19

Finally lost it Beefers? There are only 12 months in a year.

[Blue2]

Pellegrini - " its an unbelievable result". Spot on, so was Cardiff and Villa. What has he done about it? - fuck all by the looks of it.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

It's swinging side to side on a weekly basis.
Just when we think we're on a roll we drop another bollock.
It's been one step forward, two steps back in the league and this has to change. We batter Newcastle and lose to Cardiff the next week. Destroy United and lose to Villa the next week. We qualify from the CL after achieving our greatest ever result in the PL and then lose to bottom of the table.
Yesterday I was particularly unhappy as that was basically a Mancini away performance. At least in the other away losses we've played fairly well and only lost to an individual fuck up. Yesterday was simply piss poor and frequent performances like that were the reason I came to dislike our previous manager.

Away form still a major concern.

[Alex Sapphire]

still dissatisfied.

I think the "highly dissatisifed" and "couldn't be fucking happier" gangs must have their heads right up their arses, however...
this league start is the worst in 5 years. Worse than the start that got Hughes sacked. 6 points worse than the start to the season that Bobby was sacked, and 13 goals and 12 points worse than our league winning season. We are fucking miles off and the idea that "playing beautiful football will automatically mean playing winning football " (copyright Soriano) is painly wrong in this league. And by the way I'm not so sure it's particularly (or any more) beautiful.

Missed opportunity to exploit the instability at our (supoposedly) main rivals
Broken promises about holistic, beautiful, effective football
Stupid mistakes made with team selection and with players' careers

Let's hope he engineers an improvement in our away form, selects and protects his best back five, and recognises that he hasn't brought a secret formula, devised in Spain, for beating old fashioned English teams that park the bus and bang the ball upfield any more than our last "n" managers did.

If he wants I'll draft the letters to Gaz begging his forgiveness, and to Tonya Harding telling her Garcia is a better skater than she ever was.

All of that said Soriano did set a target of 5 trophies in 5 years, so if we land the Carling Cup (or even if we don't) at least he'll be happy with his own contribution.

Me, I'm staying dissatisfied for now

[sandman]

I am now dissatisfied, if the man had done his homework he would have paid Sunderland the respect they were due and put out a side worthy of winning that game. All he had to do was look at our previous form there to know that Sunderland are not to be taken lightly in their yard.

[Ted Hughes]

They say to look at the league table after 10 games. Well we've played 11 and aren't even in a Europa place.

Of the 7 teams above us, we've only played 3, 2 at home, so we can't complain we've had a hard start. Due to the other results, we're not out of the title race yet, but we can't afford many more slip ups away and none at home.

On the grounds he's still learning about the PL, he's done OK, but he has to do better, or the whole project could be in trouble - would Aguero stay without CL football? Yaya? Silva?

Of the 7 teams above us, one is 6 points ahead, one 4 points ahead, one 3 points ahead, one 2 points ahead three one point ahead.

None of them are any good.Why can't we afford any slip ups away from home or at home ?

Why are people assuming that we can't beat any of these teams or that they won't drop points ? Were we that much worse than Chelsea or Utd ? Did Arsenal lose at home to Aston Villa ? Did Chelsea lose at Newcastle & just need the ref to rescue them v West Brom ?

Where are you lot getting the evidence from, that we can't lose games ? I expect us to lose games & I expect them all to lose games. If Arsenal lose a couple more than us, it's evened out. If they lose to us & draw one, that's 4 points.

Can we not stop with this bollocks ? None of you know who is going to beat who this season, all teams have got fuckups in them, including us & none look like solving it in a hurry.

[Alex Sapphire]

Of the 7 teams above us, one is 6 points ahead, one 4 points ahead, one 3 points ahead, one 2 points ahead three one point ahead.

None of them are any good.Why can't we afford any slip ups away from home or at home ?

Why are people assuming that we can't beat any of these teams or that they won't drop points ? Were we that much worse than Chelsea or Utd ? Did Arsenal lose at home to Aston Villa ? Did Chelsea lose at Newcastle & just need the ref to rescue them v West Brom ?

Where are you lot getting the evidence from, that we can't lose games ? I expect us to lose games & I expect them all to lose games. If Arsenal lose a couple more than us, it's evened out. If they lose to us & draw one, that's 4 points.

Can we not stop with this bollocks ? None of you know who is going to beat who this season, all teams have got fuckups in them, including us & none look like solving it in a hurry.

You are comparing us with the sides around us which is fair enough. Im comparing us with us before we sacked our manager and spent another 100 mill and with standards WE should strive to. This isn't "bollocks " just reasonable expectations

[Blue Since 76]

Of the 7 teams above us, one is 6 points ahead, one 4 points ahead, one 3 points ahead, one 2 points ahead three one point ahead.

None of them are any good.Why can't we afford any slip ups away from home or at home ?

Why are people assuming that we can't beat any of these teams or that they won't drop points ? Were we that much worse than Chelsea or Utd ? Did Arsenal lose at home to Aston Villa ? Did Chelsea lose at Newcastle & just need the ref to rescue them v West Brom ?

Where are you lot getting the evidence from, that we can't lose games ? I expect us to lose games & I expect them all to lose games. If Arsenal lose a couple more than us, it's evened out. If they lose to us & draw one, that's 4 points.

Can we not stop with this bollocks ? None of you know who is going to beat who this season, all teams have got fuckups in them, including us & none look like solving it in a hurry.

Ted, we're 8th. As my last paragraph said, for a manager new to the league he's done OK. But we need to improve. If the current rate of points vs competitors continues, we'd be 20 points off the lead by May.

I don't think that'll happen, but it'd mean we've improved. I'd be interested to see how the points for the top team is going compared to the previous two years, as I think we may have picked a good year for a poor start.

Last year we just gave the league to the rags. If we're not careful, we'll do it again, as they're just the sort of team to take advantage of everyone else making mistakes and by May, Moyles will be declared the world's best manager.

[Grimble101]

It's simple poor selection Garcia & kolarov in away games like being two players short Garcia brings nothing to the team. (Kolarov) is it just me either at an away game, home game or on tv that passes a ball so late and so relaxed 9 times out of ten it go's to the other team or row z. And jogs back even slower we have better and stronger team players surely.

[Alex Sapphire]

I'd be interested to see how the points for the top team is going compared to the previous two years, as I think we may have picked a good year for a poor start.

You're right. The worst start to a season in the last ten years, which is as far as my fag packet research goes. The following is a Table of Tables based on the top team after 11 games:

11/12 Manchester City 11 10 1 0 39 10 29 31
05/06 Chelsea 11 10 1 0 28 6 22 31
06/07 Scum 11 9 1 1 26 5 21 28
12/13 Scum 11 9 0 2 29 16 13 27
09/10 Chelsea 11 9 0 2 28 8 20 27
07/08 Arsenal 11 8 3 0 24 9 15 27
08/09 Chelsea 11 8 2 1 27 4 23 26
04/05 Arsenal 11 8 2 1 31 12 19 26
10/11 Chelsea 11 8 1 2 27 5 22 25
13/14 Arsenal 11 8 1 2 22 10 12 25

[Blue Since 76]

You're right. The worst start to a season in the last ten years, which is as far as my fag packet research goes. The following is a Table of Tables based on the top team after 11 games:

11/12 Manchester City 11 10 1 0 39 10 29 31
05/06 Chelsea 11 10 1 0 28 6 22 31
06/07 Scum 11 9 1 1 26 5 21 28
12/13 Scum 11 9 0 2 29 16 13 27
09/10 Chelsea 11 9 0 2 28 8 20 27
07/08 Arsenal 11 8 3 0 24 9 15 27
08/09 Chelsea 11 8 2 1 27 4 23 26
04/05 Arsenal 11 8 2 1 31 12 19 26
10/11 Chelsea 11 8 1 2 27 5 22 25
13/14 Arsenal 11 8 1 2 22 10 12 25

Not as bad as I expected, to be honest. Take us and Chelsea out and there's not much in them. This season still seems more unpredictable at the top, so we've missed an opportunity to break away but haven't blown the league yet.

We can't continue to slowly fall further behind though or we will struggle to make it up. You can catch one team but not three or four.