***Chelsea v City Match Thread***

[zuricity]

One thing can be said is that Hart does not trust Nastasic. If he did he wouldn't have tried to do it all himself.

Who was it when the last one went very wrong?

You're right beefy, that Hart appears not to trust defenders is worrying. Is it the back line or Joe that is the problem?

[nottsblue]

I' amend what Pellegrini said. You certainly can't win title in Octobet but you can sure as shit give yourself a big mountain to climb

[blues2win]

Come off it Ted. Hart had no business charging off his line. Torres wasn't threatening. By the time Hart was calling he was right on top of him. What the hell was Nastasic supposed to do? Oh I forgot head it at Hart from point blank range. Do me a favour. There was nothing wrong with letting it bounce and heading it back to the keeper. And if Hart had stayed put there would have been no goal.Nastasic makes lots of mistakes but that wasn't one of them. You're being totally unfair. Lescott never makes horrendous costly errors does he. How about his ridiculous costly error against QPR which nearly cost us the title or a dreadful mistake at Newcastle the week before which he was lucky to get away with. He's no world beater. He's just not playing at the moment so people claim he'd put our defence right single handed. The manager didn 't want two left footers at centre back so he didn't pick him. He probably doesn't rate him either admittedly.

I personally agree with you that Nastasic is overpraised and not good enough to be first choice with Kompany. We need a new centre back but be fair to the lad.

[sheblue]

We were dreadfully unlucky. We played well and should have gotten something from the game. Only for another major cock up by hart we would have got a point. Instead joe has handed three points to chelsea, we have a bit if work to do to claw it back.
Costel must be wondering what has to happen for him to get a game.

[nottsblue]

One thing can be said is that Hart does not trust Nastasic. If he did he wouldn't have tried to do it all himself.

Who was it when the last one went very wrong?

You're right beefy, that Hart appears not to trust defenders is worrying. Is it the back line or Joe that is the problem?

I dont think Hart trusts defence. As Nasty had ducked out of few challenges earlier maybe he thought Nasty would do so again & take matters into his oen hands.

Defence might be edgy with Hart at moment because of his fuck ups this & last season.

Ergo. No cohesion as a unit. This is what Pellegrini needs to address and sharpish or we may be out of a cup on Wednesday. One we have good chance in

[Jon London]

We have never lost a game where Aguero scores ... Until now. Great performance by City especially after being a travel weary team after Moscow. Still proud of the boys. A win next week and a Ars v Liv draw and things will look Ok again.

[nottsblue]

We have never lost a game where Aguero scores ... Until now. Great performance by City especially after being a travel weary team after Moscow. Still proud of the boys. A win next week and a Ars v Liv draw and things will look Ok again.

Forgot about that. Lets hope its another 30 games. Aguero didn' deserve to lose today

[zuricity]

I dont think Hart trusts defence. As Nasty had ducked out of few challenges earlier maybe he thought Nasty would do so again & take matters into his oen hands.

Defence might be edgy with Hart at moment because of his fuck ups this & last season.

Ergo. No cohesion as a unit. This is what Pellegrini needs to address and sharpish or we may be out of a cup on Wednesday. One we have good chance in

Indeed, a fair point. Quite frankly though , joe appears to have his head ( and shoulders !) In the clouds and we need a good victory on wednesday. However, we were at Chelsea today and they are a good experienced team. The third of four away games on the trot.

Btw, Ferdi looked good today.

[branny]

Forgot about that. Lets hope its another 30 games. Aguero didn' deserve to lose today

We have now and its down to our own inadequate defending as opposed to them being fantastic.

[Ted Hughes]

Come off it Ted. Hart had no business charging off his line. Torres wasn't threatening. By the time Hart was calling he was right on top of him. What the hell was Nastasic supposed to do? Oh I forgot head it at Hart from point blank range. Do me a favour. There was nothing wrong with letting it bounce and heading it back to the keeper. And if Hart had stayed put there would have been no goal.Nastasic makes lots of mistakes but that wasn't one of them. You're being totally unfair. Lescott never makes horrendous costly errors does he. How about his ridiculous costly error against QPR which nearly cost us the title or a dreadful mistake at Newcastle the week before which he was lucky to get away with. He's no world beater. He's just not playing at the moment so people claim he'd put our defence right single handed. The manager didn 't want two left footers at centre back so he didn't pick him. He probably doesn't rate him either admittedly.

I personally agree with you that Nastasic is overpraised and not good enough to be first choice with Kompany. We need a new centre back but be fair to the lad.

Almost everything you have accused me of posting there has no basis in anything I 've actually said, so I won't be replying to most of it.

Hart was shite for the goal, Nastasic was shite for the goal & has been pretty poor all season.

The problem with letting the ball bounce was it gave Torres a fhance & Hart a decision to make. Nastasic is a passive player who relies on others to make the big calls. When he has to do it he is often found wanting.

Imo he has never been anywhere near as good as Lescott or Kolo or Mixah in tgat position but he's doing ok for a kid.

He was totally shit for the goal though & I don't understand why people are makibg excuses for him. If he can't see Joe Hart, he's fuckng blind.

Lescott is not the answer, his confidence must be shot, he's just short term but he's better than Nastasic.

[zabbadabbado]

Come off it Ted. Hart had no business charging off his line. Torres wasn't threatening. By the time Hart was calling he was right on top of him. What the hell was Nastasic supposed to do? Oh I forgot head it at Hart from point blank range. Do me a favour. There was nothing wrong with letting it bounce and heading it back to the keeper. And if Hart had stayed put there would have been no goal.Nastasic makes lots of mistakes but that wasn't one of them. You're being totally unfair. Lescott never makes horrendous costly errors does he. How about his ridiculous costly error against QPR which nearly cost us the title or a dreadful mistake at Newcastle the week before which he was lucky to get away with. He's no world beater. He's just not playing at the moment so people claim he'd put our defence right single handed. The manager didn 't want two left footers at centre back so he didn't pick him. He probably doesn't rate him either admittedly.

I personally agree with you that Nastasic is overpraised and not good enough to be first choice with Kompany. We need a new centre back but be fair to the lad.

How anyone can blame Nasti is beyond me.We have a keeper who sometimes comes out,but most the time stays put,i mean ffs how often does he even come out 5,6 yards to collect a ball ?same with set pieces often he is just routed to his line.Defenders don't know what this clown will do next.Did anybody expect our keeper to go running out off his box like that ?,what was he going to do head it ?,kick it ?,fucking hell he got nowhere near it.

Never mind he can discuss it with his best mate Wooney and Stevie G tomorrow night over dinner.

I have had my suspicions this cunt has been stitching us up for a long time. When i heard the rumors about the goal in the FA Cup final.I started paying more attention to his howlers,and how they always seem to be game changing,or Group changing for us.The season so far we have already seen him cost us at Cardiff from a corner, cost us points at Villa,beaten twice at the near post at home to Bayern Munich,and cost us today at Chelsea.There were many games last season too,most notably letting in 4 goals from just 4 shots at home to the scum ( 1 disallowed ),It seems to me we keep losing games from his mistakes,why do nearly all his mistakes cost us dearly ?

[Dubaimancityfan]

If you watch it, Nasti doesn't do much wrong. For some reason, when it becomes apparent that Nasti is gonna win the ball, Hart races out of his area and e D's up under the ball. If he'd had confidence in Nasti he's got an easy catch.

Ahh thank you !!

That's how I saw it. Even though Joe had no excuse to come out, if he had stayed within the pen area, he would still have caught the header back from Nasti or at least, punched it away. Instead he made another inexplicable lunge forward at the last minute which completely confused Nasti who was already committed for the header. Joe's fault completely.

[nottsblue]

I dont think Hart trusts defence. As Nasty had ducked out of few challenges earlier maybe he thought Nasty would do so again & take matters into his oen hands.

Defence might be edgy with Hart at moment because of his fuck ups this & last season.

Ergo. No cohesion as a unit. This is what Pellegrini needs to address and sharpish or we may be out of a cup on Wednesday. One we have good chance in

Indeed, a fair point. Quite frankly though , joe appears to have his head ( and shoulders !) In the clouds and we need a good victory on wednesday. However, we were at Chelsea today and they are a good experienced team. The third of four away games on the trot.

Btw, Ferdi looked good today.

Ultimately i think Hart is the weakest link. I cant understand why Panti not in side. Its not as if this was Joes first gaffe. If there is distrust between defence the goalie is the easiest to rectify. Its one man not four. A point here would've been a good result. Like us they seldom lose at home and they've still to come to ours. Thats why its so galling to lose in manner we did. The hard graft was done, to be thrown away by a careless but nontheless entirely avoidable fuck up. Yes, thought Fred superb

[Ted Hughes]

If you watch it, Nasti doesn't do much wrong. For some reason, when it becomes apparent that Nasti is gonna win the ball, Hart races out of his area and e D's up under the ball. If he'd had confidence in Nasti he's got an easy catch.

Ahh thank you !!

That's how I saw it. Even though Joe had no excuse to come out, if he had stayed within the pen area, he would still have caught the header back from Nasti or at least, punched it away. Instead he made another inexplicable lunge forward at the last minute which completely confused Nasti who was already committed for the header. Joe's fault completely.

If he had already committed for the header, I wouldn't be criticising him. He hadn't
. Hart said 'keeper' twice from close range before Nastasic headed the ball.

He had time to react but bottled it.

[Hazy2]

Piss poor from us to hand that bag of shite 3 points.

[Blue2]

Still think it was Nastasic's fault, he was even looking at Hart ffs. Hart perhaps shouldn't have come out , but surely Nastasic could see him

[walmai]

We were dreadfully unlucky.

I agree.

[Spurge]

He actually headed the fucking ball over him otherwise it would have hit him.

Don't be stupid Hart should have been on his five yard line and nowhere else.

Of course he should, he was shite. And Nastasic got himself into a fucking awful position meaning he let the ball bounce, then panicked.

Both were fucking shite.

Yes agree Nasti shouldn't have let it bounce but (and it's a huge but) Joe should not be out of his area in no mans land in the 90th minute simple as.

I thought that was our best away performance of the season I really did - shame it was spoilt but such a high profile blunder, but that's how it goes I guess, leaves us all so deflated/fucked off.

[Ted Hughes]

He actually headed the fucking ball over him otherwise it would have hit him.

Don't be stupid Hart should have been on his five yard line and nowhere else.

Of course he should, he was shite. And Nastasic got himself into a fucking awful position meaning he let the ball bounce, then panicked.

Both were fucking shite.

Yes agree Nasti shouldn't have let it bounce but (and it's a huge but) Joe should not be out of his area in no mans land in the 90th minute simple as.

I thought that was our best away performance of the season I really did - shame it was spoilt but such a high profile blunder, but that's how it goes I guess, leaves us all so deflated/fucked off.

It shouldn't be underestimated, just how shit our defence was today. It was relegation standard.

But the rest of the team was excellent & better than anyone else in this league.

[sheblue]

We will not win anything defending like this.