What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

[Moonchesteri]

His heart is twice the size of a normal human's. Medically proven fact.

What the hell do they do to those poor souls at Barca!

[getdressedmctavish]

The prob I had with him was (guess what) actually a problem with he whose name may only be whispered in grateful awe. Ya Ya has pluses and minuses as many have pointed out. But whereas others with the same combination of attributes, Dzeko, Milner, Nasri, Lescott, etc were clearly held to account, he never was. That is a surefire way of upsetting team spirit. Hope this season he is treated on his merits and rotated if required. Guy who can be rested against the lesser teams sometimes?

[Tokyo Blue]

The prob I had with him was (guess what) actually a problem with he whose name may only be whispered in grateful awe. Ya Ya has pluses and minuses as many have pointed out. But whereas others with the same combination of attributes, Dzeko, Milner, Nasri, Lescott, etc were clearly held to account, he never was. That is a surefire way of upsetting team spirit. Hope this season he is treated on his merits and rotated if required. Guy who can be rested against the lesser teams sometimes?

I agree re Mancini not rotating him when he should have, but that is hardly Yaya's fault, is it?

Wonderful player though Yaya undoubtedly is, there are times when he can't be arsed tracking back. That is Yaya's fault.

[dick dastardley]

yaya actually scored the winner for us against stoke, and he also scored against the magpies to set us up for the league, yeah he does nowt!!!
as far as im concerned yaya is the first name on the sheet for me.

[Slim]

Yaya is one of the most feared players in the league, I have heard this from a lot of fans from other teams, so lining up against a team without him will give them a boost before a ball is kicked, how about subbing him a bit more instead.

[Tony P]

yaya actually scored the winner for us against stoke, and he also scored against the magpies to set us up for the league, yeah he does nowt!!!
as far as im concerned yaya is the first name on the sheet for me.

You might want to read the whole thread.

[john@staustell]

Yaya is one of the most feared players in the league, I have heard this from a lot of fans from other teams, so lining up against a team without him will give them a boost before a ball is kicked, how about subbing him a bit more instead.

We formed this theory that Yaya has it in his contract that - if he can walk - he plays in all PL, CL and FA cup games - every minute of!

Either that or Mancini was desperate to always play him.

Either way I agree with you about him being the most feared. Get the game won then give him a rest. He's not too hot defensively anyway, Barry breaks up more play and now it'll be Ferdy.

[Ted Hughes]

What bollox are you talking about specifically RH?

I don't recall anyone criticising his passing. There were criticisms of his abilities defensively as a holding midfielder ( which I believe have some merit as it goes ), is it this that you're referring to?

There seem to be a few that say he is lazy and cannot be bothered when he gets beaten by somebody.
That IMO is not right.
The facts kind of back up the fact he is far from lazy and,also the two games where by his own standard, been below par, he was playing further foward like the people who apparently know these things say he should play.So the when he is played further up he had his worst games.
Those games against Dortmund and Arse his tackling was better than ok.
He has been a CM or DM all his career and, been pretty good at it and now people think he should be played as AM cos he can shoot.

Yaya's ball winning is as good as anybody's. If anyone comes close to him, he can win the ball from them easily. If however, he has to run after them, he will do it twice, then he'll let them go whilst he has a rest. If he's playing in a free role & he does that, it doesn't matter so much, as there will likely be cover, if however he is one of the players we are relying on to cover, it is very very dangerous.

That is a weakness in his game. Another is that he doesn't mark properly at set pieces etc.

All players have weaknesses, including Yaya. The trick is to minimise the negative effects & use the positives to our advantage.
Defensive mids need to pick up runners sometimes. Yaya does; sometimes. Then suddenly, he stops & lets the player go.

That is very very dangerous.

I agree with you Ted, but what's your view on the first part of last season when we were unstoppable and playing only Yaya and Barry in the midfield? We weren't as defensively poor we are now/were until recently. Would you put that down to the combined offensive pressure of our team hindering the opposition from going forward, or that Yaya actually did what he was supposed to?

Sorry, never saw this when it was posted, but imo it's a combination of things you suggest as well as the standard of the opposition.

When we played Bayern in the Champs Lg, Yaya kept letting Ribery run off him into our box. If you do the same with Tom Cleverley, it doesn't cause the same panic. Now we have a different manager it will be interesting to see how it works with Yaya, as he was very effective for Barca in that respect but they stifled his attacking game. Fernandinho had a player covering behind him at Shakattack so he wasn't really a player like Nige or Barry.

The whole team will have to cover if we are to play Yaya & Fernandinho together.

[Ted Hughes]

Yaya is one of the most feared players in the league, I have heard this from a lot of fans from other teams, so lining up against a team without him will give them a boost before a ball is kicked, how about subbing him a bit more instead.

We formed this theory that Yaya has it in his contract that - if he can walk - he plays in all PL, CL and FA cup games - every minute of!

Either that or Mancini was desperate to always play him.

Either way I agree with you about him being the most feared. Get the game won then give him a rest. He's not too hot defensively anyway, Barry breaks up more play and now it'll be Ferdy.

Surely the best way is to up the standard of play without him though ? Ifwe can be generally just as good without Yaya, then we can keep him fresh.

[john@staustell]

Yaya is one of the most feared players in the league, I have heard this from a lot of fans from other teams, so lining up against a team without him will give them a boost before a ball is kicked, how about subbing him a bit more instead.

We formed this theory that Yaya has it in his contract that - if he can walk - he plays in all PL, CL and FA cup games - every minute of!

Either that or Mancini was desperate to always play him.

Either way I agree with you about him being the most feared. Get the game won then give him a rest. He's not too hot defensively anyway, Barry breaks up more play and now it'll be Ferdy.

Surely the best way is to up the standard of play without him though ? Ifwe can be generally just as good without Yaya, then we can keep him fresh.

I just sense he'd throw a wobbly though. Model pro when playing but as soon as Busquets took his place at Barca he hooked it off to chase the dollar at City - brutal though it sounds.

Leave him out without decent explanation and I reckon he'd be off - not acceptable I know but .........................

[Rag_hater]

Well,he didn't score against Wigwam so needs selling obviously.

[Original Dub]

Well,he didn't score against Wigwam so needs selling obviously.

Come on. Someone bite?

[Ted Hughes]

Well,he didn't score against Wigwam so needs selling obviously.

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[Original Dub]

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Brilliant

[Rag_hater]

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[Original Dub]

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[Rag_hater]

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Riiiiiiiiiight....

So the way to fish is to make it obvious.
Thanks for the lesson.

[Original Dub]

So the way to fish is to make it obvious.
Thanks for the lesson.

Ah mate you don't need tips on fishing. You just need a new forum because you've burnt yourself out on this one.

So do tell, because I just don't get why you would put an amy winehouse video in this thread. I know you have made some excellent contributions to the music thread in off topic, but this was particularly strange?

[Burt]

So the way to fish is to make it obvious.
Thanks for the lesson.

Ah mate you don't need tips on fishing. You just need a new forum because you've burnt yourself out on this one.

So do tell, because I just don't get why you would put an amy winehouse video in this thread. I know you have made some excellent contributions to the music thread in off topic, but this was particularly strange?

Why don't you two go get a room together and shag each others' arses off? Cum on............you know you want to!

[Rag_hater]

So the way to fish is to make it obvious.
Thanks for the lesson.

Ah mate you don't need tips on fishing. You just need a new forum because you've burnt yourself out on this one.

So do tell, because I just don't get why you would put an amy winehouse video in this thread. I know you have made some excellent contributions to the music thread in off topic, but this was particularly strange?

Because you denied being a drinker(were you fishing me) in one thread yet in the gillie thread you say that you got so drunk you need a rest from it.They say admitting to yourself you have a problem is one of the first steps.Anyway as I have said I am happy somebody is taking over frrom me,everybody gets overtaken sooner or later.About time I retired.
Anyway, Cheers mate.